Melding mutation and machine.

[NotaNuffian]

Might be a me-thing, but the last time I saw the whole using both machine prosthetics as well as genetic mutation at the same time to level up is in a CN.

Because machine induces cyber psychosis and loss of humanity while mutation causes bloodlust and loss of sanity. Somehow by using both methods to level up, it becomes stable.

Might be my bias due to too much CN, where MC will laugh at people putting animal DNA into themselves and or turn themselves into a cyborg to become more powerful while he himself has the power of martial arts to level up. Which I might add that it is his cheat doing the heavy lifting all the time, not him.

Back to topic, when did the whole hybrid machine mutant thing actually occur as a concept?

 

[RepresentingWrath]

I know it's a thing in WH40K, don't know when it started.

 

[NotaNuffian]

I know it's a thing in WH40K, don't know when it started.

It was a thing in WH40K?

Do you mean the geneseed?

Because that is all I recall.

Geneseed can make people into mutant, but I never see how the machine is in the mix.

Also I ask this question because of Trait Hunter.

And now at c150, the chapter introduce chinese characters.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

It was a thing in WH40K?

Do you mean the geneseed?

Because that is all I recall.

Geneseed can make people into mutant, but I never see how the machine is in the mix.

Also I ask this question because of Trait Hunter.

And now at c150, the chapter introduce chinese characters.

Obliterators and titans.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Obliterators and titans.

The concept is there, but it is more like turning metal into flesh (obliterators) and reducing one's flesh into metal (titans) instead of them overlapping and reinforcing one another.

Also this reminded me the phrase.

血肉苦弱，机械飞升。
Flesh and blood are weak, machinery ascends.

And somehow its antiphrase

机械朽弱，血肉飞升。
Machinery decays and becomes weak, flesh and blood ascends.

Ps. I forgot that Korea had a big boner for hating the Jap as well. Oops.

 

[Echimera]

Geneseed is used to create Space Marines, some of them use cybernetics and prosthetics. For most, it's to replace parts that are too damaged, so it's less another upgrade. Iron Hands can sometimes do it for ritualistic purposes, if I rmember correctly.

Obliterators on the Chaos side meld the two into one, they literally abdorb weapons and can regrow them at will.

The Dark Mechanicus might be the closest when it comes to using both to straight up upgrade themselves or their soldiers, but so far they are not explored all that much. And they dablle in Chaos stuff as well.

Because machine induces cyber psychosis and loss of humanity while mutation causes bloodlust and loss of sanity. Somehow by using both methods to level up, it becomes stable.

That either of those inherently cause issues is setting specific. Heck, even in Cyberpunk 2077, when you actually look at the Cyberpsycho cases, basically none of them are actually caused by the cyberware, rather all of them are people having mental breakdowns that in one way or another involve cyberware.
Also, the Cyberpunk setting has exotics, people with biomodifications ranging from less than furries to full on furries to complete alien modifications, and these can also use cyberware, so even this setting has the option to combine the two.