*jazzhands* depression

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[GDLiZy]

It's a time-skip training montage without any exciting moment or challenges.

 

[gaylolis]

well, it's alien babies with plot armor.

i guess they concentrate too much in magic, they didn't even notice they already pooped.

though i would appreciate if they could eat babies as a baby.

 

[weakwithwords]

GDLiZy, in the korean webtoon Past Life Regressor, the mc opted to time skip to his middle school years.

flucket, yup, earliest human memories are from around the age of 3.5 years, but anything before 6 tends to be vague.

"Some research has demonstrated that children can remember events from the age of one, but that these memories may decline as children get older." (childhood amnesia)

Stories that explore what-if scenarios are at the mercy of the author's diligence. (That's why Michael Crichton garnered fans.) Lazy ones don't do any research and just make things up.

Irresponsible translators coining words:
psychokinesist instead of psychic.

In a nutshell (tiaf's snack), hate (blame) the author (cause), not the mc (result).

 

[Jemini]

This is just an opinion rant I gotta get off my chest.

First of all, biologically it makes no sense. The brain is still in a state of development at that stage of the human life, and the state of babies learning things like object permanence and the concept of language is literally their brain slowly acquiring the hardware to learn these things at all. I don't care if your character was a mature and educated 40-year-old in their past life, your brain literally isn't even capable of facial recognition as a baby, let alone able to function at a level to host the advanced thought processes you think your character would have.

Second of all, from a narrative standpoint it just suuuuucks. The stories literally go "well I've literally existed in the mortal coil of this world for 3 months and I don't even have the body strength to roll my fat baby ass over so I spent 18 hours today practising magic" fucking riveting writing my dude I am so glad you decided to literally start this character's life story at age 0 so we didn't have to miss any of these fucking exciting details.

I geeeeet it. You want your MC to be as OP as possible so having them literally master magic by the time they're 6 months old is the uuuuuuuh """"""logical"""""" conclusion to that desire but holy fuck. Nah. Nope. No thank you. I hate this. This is both factually incorrect and terminally boring and also? Also also? Just kinda sad? Because when you take a step back and think about it, read between the lines, basically you're asking me, the reader, to spend the first five chapters of your novel with the MC shittin' his pants like ten times a day off-screen. "Today I mastered wind magic" yeah but we both know you also let out the stinkiest liquid poop to ever grace god's green earth like five times during the process and also probably burped so hard your literal baby brain didn't know how to cognisantly deal with it and you cried uncontrollably for ten minutes straight.

You might enjoy my series then. It's a genre breakdown on this exact subject, and the brain development of an infant limiting the abilities of the MC, along with the fact that I'm just plain not nice (or lazy) enough to give my main cast some kind of language cheat are two of their MAJOR early struggles they have to contend with.

 

[RepresentingCaution]

I'm sorry you feel that way.

 

[BenJepheneT]

nnooooo you can't just learn magic at infancy you brain isn't biologically developed enough to learn that stuff it's physically impossible it's bad writing and doesn't make any sense whatsoever you can't even recognize faces how can you learn a skill that's narratively recognize to take several years of adult knowledge to attain

haha wind magic go woosh

 

[fullbios]

AND I OOP-

 

[ChubbyLiv]

I just assume that the humans in that world are different compared to Eartheners. Everything could be explained with magic, so I wouldn't put Earth's law into their physic form, that would be stupid of me as a reader. Just like everything else, humans can evolve too. *Shrugs shoulders*

 

[AliceShiki]

I can understand your point of view, but... Well, it's not like anyone remembers what happened in their baby years in the first place, so it is not that weird for a "what if I was smart even when I was a baby" story to try exploiting that.

Also, the whole brain thing and facial recognition and what not... That's a can of worms you really shouldn't open, like... How do you explain reincarnating with past life's memories if the brain couldn't hold those memories in the first place? Logically speaking it makes no sense... And that's why you shouldn't apply logic to it, just think it's magic doing magicky things.

This kind of thing just needs suspension of disbelief. The more you try applying science, physics and modern day logic to fantasy and magic stuff, the bigger the headache you'll get. Just assume they can comprehend what is happening around them because that's how magic works~

 

[weakwithwords]

"Of course, different people will have different thresholds for what they're willing to accept in a work, and what may break one person's willing suspension of disbelief may not necessarily have the same effect on another."

Willing Suspension of Disbelief - TV Tropes

Samuel Taylor Coleridge, the poet and author, called drama "that willing suspension of disbelief for the moment, which constitutes poetic faith ..." Any creative endeavor — certainly any written creative endeavor — is only successful …

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[Jemini]

2. I'm glad someone wrote it because I was gonna do it and then I was like no... no I'm too lazy to write a story just because of one trope I hate...

Funny thing that, the thing that got me writing it was actually around 2 tropes I saw and didn't like, and they were not the two I just shamelessly self promoted on. I just did those ones in that way because I felt like that should be the way that would be portrayed.

The tropes that ACTUALLY got me wanting to write were 1. Reincarnated because a god/goddess took pity on the MC. Why the heck would some random god/goddess care that much? What's in it for them? 2. Reincarnated person is always younger than 30, usually younger than 20. I have only ever seen an old man reincarnated once in all the isekai I've read, and the writer had no clue how to actually write a former old man like an actual former old man, so I don't count it.

 

[Kldran]

the writer had no clue how to actually write a former old man like an actual former old man

This reminds me: I find it frustrating how many cultivation stories are full of centuries old people that are no more mature than the teenagers are. It's especially bad in the "Went back in time to my youth after spending thousands of years cultivating" stories. Clearly their mental age did not change at all, despite all the knowledge they gained.

 

[Moshi]

What happened to the thread name and first post

 

[GDLiZy]

What happened to the thread name and first post

It's a rant about baby MC training advanced magic, but I think the OP couldn't take the onslaught of the angry mobs.

 

[AliceShiki]

*pats poor Flucket's head*

 

[weakwithwords]

flucket's opening thread reincarnated itself into a baby to prove flucket's original point.

 

[Arexio]

I see I have missed some drama.

Anyway this new reincarnated thread speaks to me.