I've just watched Lord of the Rings for the first time. Wasn't impressed...

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I liked the first one but read the two towers right before the second one came out and was too upset about how they butchered a certain brother character to enjoy it.
Helm's deep tho... I still like that monologue way too much.. :sweating_profusely:
 

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Had us going in the first half, not gonna lie.

Tbf, if you stopped halfway through, then you missed out on the Arwen and Eowyn arcs.

However, if you want to watch the Hobbit, then get the 1977 animated one. Literally how my parents introduced me to fantasy. Well, that and Flight of Dragons.
 

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That was yesterday. Today, I'd decided to push through and finish it in one go. It didn't quite happen that way. A half way through the movie, and I decided it wasn't for me.

But that got me thinking: why is it that an epic fantasy movie (something I thought I like because of all the anime and novels and video games I've consumed) that is held in such a high regard and enjoyed all over the world for decades doesn't move my heart? While watching both the Hobbit and the LOTR, I found myself constantly thinking the younger me would definitely enjoy this. But why is that? Are the movies childish? By no mean.

So, what, then?

Then the answer came without much effort: yes, indeed, I've grown.

It has no waifus in it.
1. I'd imagine if you've read a ton of fantasy stuff before LoTR, a lot of the originality that LoTR had as a progenitor of the entire genre is loss-- yes, there's stuff that Tolkein does that isn't popular these days, but it's still almost absurdly central to modern fantasy genre.
2. This is Legolas erasure.
 

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It's not really the story that made it popular, it's the novelty and originality of a new genre of its time that made it so popular.

Now, a few decades later and more improvements and innovation in the writing industry and it seems lackluster compared to new works.
 

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Good idea. But won't the hardcore fans think I'm weird once I use the word moe to describe the Hobbits?
Probably no more that when you say Sam is a great waifu. Which is objectively the truth, I mean, he is unquestioningly loyal to the ML, without hessitation following him through any danger, great cook and exceedingly capable overall. In certain definitions he can even be considered cute.
Yeah, classic tsundere character arc, but he and Gimli are cute.
And the best part, they literally sail away on a ship, together.
 

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Probably no more that when you say Sam is a great waifu. Which is objectively the truth, I mean, he is unquestioningly loyal to the ML, without hessitation following him through any danger, great cook and exceedingly capable overall. In certain definitions he can even be considered cute.
That's one of the things I like about that movie. Friendship is just beautiful, man, especially a super loyal one like this. At first I thought there's gonna be some kind of drama between the two later on, but when I heard Sam calling Frodo Mr. Frodo, the thought vanished instantly. The man got some mad respect.
 

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That's one of the things I like about that movie. Friendship is just beautiful, man, especially a super loyal one like this. At first I thought there's gonna be some kind of drama between the two later on, but when I heard Sam calling Frodo Mr. Frodo, the thought vanished instantly. The man got some mad respect.
I mean... there is some drama later on, the classical misunderstanding and/or "MC gets swayed by the baddies pretending to be the good guys" arc, but it is rather well justified under the circumstances and Sam pulls through, making their bond stronger for it.
 

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I mean... there is some drama later on, the classical misunderstanding and/or "MC gets swayed by the baddies pretending to be the good guys" arc, but it is rather well justified under the circumstances and Sam pulls through, making their bond stronger for it.
Spoilers~
 

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Probably no more that when you say Sam is a great waifu. Which is objectively the truth, I mean, he is unquestioningly loyal to the ML, without hessitation following him through any danger, great cook and exceedingly capable overall. In certain definitions he can even be considered cute.

And the best part, they literally sail away on a ship, together.
Yes, Legolas x Gimli best ship.

(Frodo x Sam pretty good too, though)

As it seems this is a hot-take thread about lotr, let me throw in mine:

Movies > Books

I tried getting through the books…. Couldn’t. I never read something so dull before. I tried the audiobook version by Andy Serkis himself. Same experience.
Valid!

Personally, I found the books substantially more interesting than the movies-- movies are kinda generic modern action moviefied version of books, which is fine if you like that, but is very much something I am like "okay I get it let's move on" about at this point.

There's some things Tolkein does with his writing that a lot of modern writers don't, and I find them super interesting... actually, the slow starting chapters are one of my favorite parts, whereas I think I was a kid when I made it through RotK when it's all High Stakes and Battles All The Time.
 

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As it seems this is a hot-take thread about lotr, let me throw in mine:

Movies > Books

I tried getting through the books…. Couldn’t. I never read something so dull before. I tried the audiobook version by Andy Serkis himself. Same experience.
It's hard to get into. I admit. It's pretty daunting at the start, with a lot of poetry, exposition and world building. However of you pass through the first half of the first book, then you won't even notice when you finish the whole damn thing. I'd say after the fellowship forms. The hobbits by themselves can be a little boring. Though that part gave us Tom Bombadil.
 
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