Is this a good enough spin on a regression conept?

LesserCodex

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So I've read many regression tales, most involving the regressor at the end of the world miraculously turning back time at the right moment to start his journey anew and make use of his future knowledge while his action brings forth changes and challenges he has to overcome.

But what's been filling my mind is the story not involving a regressor but an extra so to speak, but he doesn't know anything, as a result of regressing he's also pushed to face challenges and rise beyond what he was before the regression, which makes him suspect despite him being a normal guy putting in the work, in my mind the story would conclude with the regressor becoming the villain, not at his own volition but as a result of him going against the flow of time and endangering the world as a result which would make our real Mc being the one to save it, this would bring the two to clash heads multiple times. Does this seem like a good enough spin?
 

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Well thanks, back to the drawing board.
 

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It's certainly better than most, but good enough is very subjective. If we're talking about a spin on a well-explored plot, it's not bad, if we're talking in general... well, if it's so well-known it has its own genre, you'll need something revolutionary and better than that to really make a great story.
 

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Not trying to be revolutionary I think that's already been done by other great stories I've come across, but to add a spin that can give a breath of fresh air to others is my goal with this concept. Gonna keep playing with this till I get something good.
 

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No, it's not very original. Subversion of a trope/story or a Spin on it will never be very creative in fact. That said, go for it. I'm sure you can think up something more original as you revise and revise and revise endlessly. My ideas when I first started writing weren't very original, even though I thought they were absolute cinema at the time. But I never abandoned them, really. They were just subsumed into the others stories I write today.
 

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So I've read many regression tales, most involving the regressor at the end of the world miraculously turning back time at the right moment to start his journey anew and make use of his future knowledge while his action brings forth changes and challenges he has to overcome.

But what's been filling my mind is the story not involving a regressor but an extra so to speak, but he doesn't know anything, as a result of regressing he's also pushed to face challenges and rise beyond what he was before the regression, which makes him suspect despite him being a normal guy putting in the work, in my mind the story would conclude with the regressor becoming the villain, not at his own volition but as a result of him going against the flow of time and endangering the world as a result which would make our real Mc being the one to save it, this would bring the two to clash heads multiple times. Does this seem like a good enough spin?
Why would the extras life change if they dont know. Is the would be villans actions pushing them in a different direction? And if the MC doesnt know its not really a regression story just a normal zero to hero story.

Something like they fail to slay the great big bad and are sent back after their deaths and both remember it but the MC chooses to live better and get atronger while the other character who was the MC in the original timeline succumbs to the failings and then turns evil.

But regression stories are kind of done and dusted even with unique spons but write whatever makes ya happy.
 

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Fair, the reason for the change in the extra I had in mind would be due to the regressor as his actions would change future events and the ripples would affect our Mc which would lead to him surviving what should've been an early death for him and in doing so put him down the path to becoming the real hero of the story slowly learning about the regression in some way, the dangers and have him clash with the regressor.
 

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Fair, the reason for the change in the extra I had in mind would be due to the regressor as his actions would change future events and the ripples would affect our Mc which would lead to him surviving what should've been an early death for him and in doing so put him down the path to becoming the real hero of the story slowly learning about the regression in some way, the dangers and have him clash with the regressor.

It sounds like a fun concept. A little tricky managing the POVs and who knows what, but it could work.
 

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I’ve seen enough regression stories that the concept is almost as tired as isekai for me.

If I had to put a spin on it, I wouldn’t make it a regression story, but give the character prophetic dreams. Doing so would limit the character’s information, and make them doubt their own information, which I think sets up well having a smart mc that doesn’t rely on perfect knowledge of the future as a crutch
 

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The best kind of regression/time loop I have ever read was this: Cheolsu Saves the World

Basically, an asteroid destroys Earth and our MC turns back in time thanks to shenanigans I don't remember. He then starts to study really hard and tries to somehow stop it but to no success. So, the asteroid destroys Earth once again ... and the MC also returns.

He rationalizes he was stuck in this regression/time loop right away, but here's the catch: He returns ( I don't remember if it was years or months) on a later date, so he was on a regression/time loop with a time limit.

There's a lot more I could say about it, but this is definitely in the Top 3 of my best reads... Hell, it might be number one, now that I think about it.

Go read if you haven't, you will not regret it.
 

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I've read many regression tales, most involving the regressor at the end of the world miraculously turning back time at the right moment to start his journey anew and use his future knowledge. His actions bring forth changes and challenges he has to overcome.

But what's been filling my mind is the story not involving a regressor but an extra, so to speak, but he doesn't know anything; as a result of regressing, he's also pushed to face challenges and rise beyond what he was before the regression, which makes him suspect despite him being a regular guy putting in the work, in my mind the story would conclude with the regressor becoming the villain, not at his own volition. Still, as a result of him going against the flow of time and endangering the world, which would make our real Mc the one to save it, this would bring the two to clash heads multiple times. Does this seem like a good enough spin?
Could you do it? If you see it through to the end, finishing the book, you will have already done more than 90% of those who post on this site. So, if you have it in you then go ahead.
 

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I think this sounds like a fair enough base, though you might want to spend some more time working on exactly why going against 'fate' turns him into a defacto villain (defying fate is often considered a heroic trait).

The biggest piece of advice I have to give you is to keep in mind the quality of the execution of your idea. I'd rather read a story that isn't groundbreaking but executes its version of common story elements very well, compared to a story that tries to be unique but stumbles over itself on the way there.
 
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