Is he right or wrong?

[Ellieporter]

Hes not hurting anyone if hes in his own world he can fulfill his desires itll be like harming a hologram

Its like living your fantasy but you're just dreaming irl.

 

[Ymadthepirate]

AH ok
thats notto bad its kinda like Obitos plan from naruto

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Ok he could just like put them in there own dream world so they dont effect anyone else,but they can still get pleasure for themselves not harming others

Who can guarantee that his definition of a criminal won't change? And who can say what he defines as a criminal? Can someone guarantee that he won't judge people who committed thoughtcrime?

For some reason I imagine you pinning the OP to the wall and yelling at their face... Weird.

 

[Ellieporter]

For some reason I imagine you pinning the OP to the wall and yelling at their face... Weird.

Kabedon?!

 

[Ymadthepirate]

Who can guarantee that his definition of a criminal won't change? And who can say what he defines as a criminal? Can someone guarantee that he won't judge people who committed thoughtcrime?

He's not harming anyone but fake images the police dont charge someone for thought crime until they have already done it we all have thoughts and we all think about punching our boss we don't get arrested.

He's not a crinimal cause he hasnt affected anyone but a fake image like an anime body pillow.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

He's not harming anyone but fake images the police dont charge someone for thought crime until they have already done it we all have thoughts and we all think about punching our boss we don't get arrested.

He's not a crinimal cause he hasnt affected anyone but a fake image like an anime body pillow.

First of all, you didn't answer a single question. Secondly, I will ask you a fourth question. Who can guarantee that BF won't start committing crimes against those people?

 

[EternalSunset0]

Who can guarantee that BF won't start committing crimes against those people?

No one, which is my main point of saying no. No matter what good intentions he may have, having that amount of power and control given to one person (who still retains his human mind, thoughts, wills) is a terrible idea.

Even if it's a Lotus-eater plot where he traps the world in eternal sleep while they dream about their dream world.

 

[Ymadthepirate]

First of all, you didn't answer a single question. Secondly, I will ask you a fourth question. Who can guarantee that BF won't start committing crimes against those people?

BF would probably not commit crimes because of his nature and character, and he can still create a fake world were he can do whatever he wants without needing to harm others and back to the first three questions

The definition of a criminal is a person who has committed a crime, its a broad term however it fits for just about everything, so yes he is still a criminal HOWEVER he's not harming anyone and most if not every law is made to protect or defend someone to keep the world safe hes not harming anyone but fake people

He would have no need to punish people for committing crimes or thought crimes, because its all fake none of it is real so he has no reason to punish someone for fake things why would he punish someone for a thought crime

lastly it doesn't matter what he defy as a criminal because the definition of a criminal doesn't change no matter what you think
The same thing that stopped the Ancient Being will stop bf

 

[CarburetorThompson]

BFF is an idiot for moving onto human testing without going through the proper scientific channels first.

 

[Ymadthepirate]

BFF is an idiot for moving onto human testing without going through the proper scientific channels first.

Well she was his first test dummy

 

[RepresentingWrath]

No one, which is my main point of saying no. No matter what good intentions he may have, having that amount of power and control given to one person (who still retains his human mind, thoughts, wills) is a terrible idea.

Even if it's a Lotus-eater plot where he traps the world in eternal sleep while they dream about their dream world.

Yes, that's why I said fuck BF.

BF would probably not commit crimes because of his nature and character,

How do you know this?

he can still create a fake world were he can do whatever he wants without needing to harm others

BF wants to 'help' the real world, not a giant sandbox.

He also plans to use the scrolls to make all hardships and conflicts to disappear from the world where everyone would get their own share of happy ending.

Now, back to the business.

The definition of a criminal is a person who has committed a crime, its a broad term however it fits for just about everything, so yes he is still a criminal HOWEVER he's not harming anyone and most if not every law is made to protect or defend someone to keep the world safe hes not harming anyone but fake people

Have you ever heard of authoritarian countries? Laws in those countries? What about the difference in the severity of the crime?

He would have no need to punish people for committing crimes or thought crimes, because its all fake none of it is real so he has no reason to punish someone for fake things why would he punish someone for a thought crime

What if BF is a Twitter user? I don't want to shift the discussion or break the rules, so bear with this definition.

lastly it doesn't matter what he defy as a criminal because the definition of a criminal doesn't change no matter what you think
The same thing that stopped the Ancient Being will stop bf

Ha.

 

[Ymadthepirate]

Yes, that's why I said fuck BF.

How do you know this?

BF wants to 'help' the real world, not a giant sandbox.

Now, back to the business.

Have you ever heard of authoritarian countries? Laws in those countries? What about the difference in the severity of the crime?

What if BF is a Twitter user? I don't want to shift the discussion or break the rules, so bear with this definition.

Ha.

Yeah and because he wants to help the real world he will create a sandbox for his own world or everyone can have their own little world where they can play godor somthing

 

[Layenlml]

He will keep the scroll for himself and will change reality and fate itself.

He will make everyone's dreams come true like.

A newbie idol who gets unwarranted hate from fans because it was revealed that she has a BF. (He will make it so that the idol's most rabid parasocial fans will accept and support their relationship.)

A Middle Aged Doctor who failed to save a patient due to their illness has a high death rate. (He will wipe the disease off the planet and resurrect the dead patient.)

Basically, he becomes GOD in a sense that he can grant miracles, change reality, warp space and time on a whim or doom this timeline at an instant.

So basically brainwashing the entire fan base of the idol? Sounds like a reall bad hero complex novel where the MC end up making things worse in the long run when you think about it.

 

[Ymadthepirate]

Thats why he should make everyone there own little worlds you want to be a dictator go for it you want to be a bussiness man go for it its your world

 

[Ellieporter]

So basically brainwashing the entire fan base of the idol? Sounds like a reall bad hero complex novel where the MC end up making things worse in the long run when you think about it.

Yup, brainwashing them like changing their minds to like the BF of the idol using the scroll.

Thats why he should make everyone there own little worlds you want to be a dictator go for it you want to be a bussiness man go for it its your world

Good take.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Thats why he should make everyone there own little worlds you want to be a dictator go for it you want to be a bussiness man go for it its your world

What he SHOULD do and WILL do is different things. That's kinda the whole point. You are not him, can't you understand this? Or you are trolling me(us), and I was gotted?

 

[Ai-chan]

Scenario:

3 friends (1 couple and 1 woman)

GF volunteers to be the tester of her BFF's machine which harnesses the brain power of human, thus sending the GF into another world via REM.

Machine malfunctions and GF is stuck on the other realm.

BF and BFF goes into the machine to save the GF but finds out that she was possessed by ancient being.

Ancient Being states that they were watching from behind the scenes since time immemorial and tells the two (BF and BFF that the GF chose to be the host.)

Ancient Being talks about a scroll that can change reality itself and all the events from the universe were being recorded there as well.

BF suddenly has an idea to steal the scroll and stop BFF from making the machine in the beginning. He also plans to use the scrolls to make all hardships and conflicts to disappear from the world where everyone would get their own share of happy ending.

BFF says that would only cause problems if he does that and while his cause might be noble and just. No human should have that kind of power.

Plot twist:
The ancient being lied. The scroll does not change reality. The scroll isn't even a scroll. The scroll is a manifestation of the concept of existence. By taking the scroll and making it materialize in the physical world, the BF has brought the concept of existence into the physical, making every imagination real and every fantasy reality. As a result, everyone became superman, a monster, a superhero, and the cosmic horror that used to reside in paperbacks now comes into existence.

As for the ancient being, he was sealed by the other ancient beings who are long gone now and just wants to see the universe burn. Never trust ancient beings, whether they be gods, devils, ayyliens or spirits. You can't possibly understand their point of view or motivation. In other words, the BF is totally wrong.

 

[BlackKnightX]

I don’t know if he’s right or wrong. Is he to be feared, though? Yes, absolutely, yes. A guy with a sense of moral like that doesn’t think with his head most of the time; he just does what he thinks is right. It can be good, and it can also be bad. There’s no right or wrong. If the guy thinks there is without any good reasons to back it up, then he’s dangerous. Too dangerous to hold such power. Maybe he does good cause now, but you don’t know about the future.

 

[Ellieporter]

Plot twist:
The ancient being lied. The scroll does not change reality. The scroll isn't even a scroll. The scroll is a manifestation of the concept of existence. By taking the scroll and making it materialize in the physical world, the BF has brought the concept of existence into the physical, making every imagination real and every fantasy reality. As a result, everyone became superman, a monster, a superhero, and the cosmic horror that used to reside in paperbacks now comes into existence.

As for the ancient being, he was sealed by the other ancient beings who are long gone now and just wants to see the universe burn. Never trust ancient beings, whether they be gods, devils, ayyliens or spirits. You can't possibly understand their point of view or motivation. In other words, the BF is totally wrong.

I love this plot twist.

 

[SternenklarenRitter]

It is simply too early to judge the merit of the boyfriend's claim. They have to ask why the gay friend chose to be the host before the boyfriend and the boyfriend's fiancé can judge the merit of the ancient being's claim.