Is Avatar the Last Airbender an Isekai Anime or a Xianxia Donghua?

[jabathehut]

literally schizo


it's a troll. it has to be. no one in this world can be this physically stupid. his brain is literally an air duct. a fucking pinwheel spinning on a wobbly screw

I've read thousands of chapters of isekai and xianxia bro I am expert here. I know lots about it.

 

[Ophious]

Jurassic Park isn't an isekai there's no reincarnation. The dinosaurs aren't reincarnated they're just clones.

Reincarnation is just one of the methods auhors use to introduce the isekai genre
It itself doesnt equal to isekai
Another world doesnt equal reincarnation
Those are two completely different words

 

[Euphoria723]

Yes avatar does that, so its an isekai xianxia

oh no u r not about to label it XianXia in that genre the character become A GOD AND LIVES ON FOREVER. And avatar does not use a single but of Chinese mythology. U don't think know enough Chinese mythology to be saying this. And honey the 異 in 異世界 literally means different

 

[Euphoria723]

I dont think this form allowed racism please stop

It's not racism it's fact and as a Chinese I can confirm to u

 

[Euphoria723]

Get a hint. Read my tRuck & tRoll post in the previous page.


For everyone:

Correct me if I get any of the following (tags) wrong as I'm still trying to figure the extent of the reincarnation concept for the adventum contest.

• Reincarnation means someone dies and gets reborn irrespective of resultant time and place. The "reincarnation" usually used in stories has the peculiar cheat of retaining memories from the past life or from previous lives.
• Transmigration means someone's soul from a living body gets relocated to another body in another world. (The previous body doesn't necessarily always die and the soul itself doesn't go through the cycle of death and rebirth which is why I'm confused why some insist that transmigration is reincarnation.)
• Body possession means a soul steals control of a body from another soul.
• Transported to another world means being summoned to another world, both body and soul.
• Dimensional travel implies having full or partial control over the relocation.

Note: body can be (a living creature, an undead, an inanimate object, or) anything that can house a soul.

Oh right, I see the difference I totally forgot they use their own body

 

[Nixil]

The term 'isekai' is actually poorly defined and subject to change. It is simply a way to group a selection of similar stories that the majority of people (in a community) have come to a general understanding of. With this way of defining it, different people will have a different opinion on how they should be grouped. They can argue for their opinion, but if the majority disagree then it is not labelled so. Of course the opinion of the majority is subject to change and why 'isekai' is poorly defined.

Here are some examples I have come across:

SAO being an 'isekai'. The main character is transported to a virtual world. The main arguments against SAO being labelled as such are that it doesn't fit with main characteristics of an 'isekai'. You can see how problematic this is.

Another example is Steins;gate. Yes the main character travels between different timelines. A different timeline means a different world has occured/ a parallel universe which is considered an 'isekai'. Some arguments against are that the main character isn't trapped in another world and again it doesn't fit with the standard model. If you define 'isekai' as transported to another world, Steins;gate is an isekai. Again it is problematic.

The last example is the weakest one, but you can see where it is argued from. That death note is an 'isekai'. If we can agree that the place where shinigami come from is a different world than the human world, then if it is argued that Ryuk coming to the human world is the most important thing (as it is the catalyst for everything to come) then death note could be considered an 'isekai'. Of course I also disagree with this one as the central thing to death note isn't about Ryuk coming to the human world, but Lights ideals and the cat and mouse between Light and L. You can still see where this is coming from though.

Examples based in real life:
Can dreams be considered another world? There are already stories based on the main character being in a coma and their mind being transported to another world, but can we consider everyday dreams to be another world? Am I an 'isekai' protagonist? Are you one?

What if we define our home to be a separate world to the outside. I can see a novel based on someone defining their home to be a different world from the outside mentally, but would the majority of people agree. The current answer would be no. If this novel was published now, I doubt it would be considered as 'isekai'. Maybe in the future when someone pushes the boundaries on what can be considered 'isekai'.

Crownfalls opinion:
Crownfall literally didn't bother arguing anything and just went reincarnation=isekai. Reincarnation doesn't necessarily mean isekai and isekai doesn't mean reincarnation has to happen. If we consider the state of being dead to be another plane of existence then it could be considered that the avatar has a short trip to another world each time they die, but this isn't the main focus of the story and isn't really defined. What if we considered the avatar defining each nation to be another world? Again it is not the main focus of the story and I doubt anybody would accept that. There is also the fact that the avatar has already died before and been in each nation before. As he has already been in these 'worlds' multiple times before, can we really consider them to be another world? I don't think so, they are already all the avatars worlds.

In conclusion, what the term 'isekai' means is honestly based on opinion (applies to all words honestly). The fact that the majority of people (in a community) have a similar understanding of what it means allows me to use the word 'isekai' rather than 'transported to another world' with a lot of footnotes tagged on.

 

[BenJepheneT]

crownfall

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we've been fucking played boys. shut it down and sign the L.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

I agree with Beni boy. It was fairly obvious though.

 

[Deleted member 25151]

Damn nice work for a troll I applaud you. You have posted a bait of excellent quality

 

[jabathehut]

The term 'isekai' is actually poorly defined and subject

words honestly). The fact that the majority of people (in a community) have a similar

I wish I could write this many words a day

 

[D4isuke]

I wish I could write this many words a day

No, you just don't understand the concept and instead you make it shitposting. Yeah, this thread is utterly "shit" post. Isekai influnences the protagonist to change and adapt the new world. (It's not about just adventuring around the world for wonderful purpose, but to add what's difference between escapism and realism.... or anything more else). The term "Isekai" is for JAPANESE CONCEPT, and Avatar is not relatable between Isekai and the story Avatar itself.

Oh, by the way, writing an Isekai story as an outsider from Japan doesn't mean it's only for JAPANESE, but the concept behind its subgenre itself. For sure, the rightful quality of Isekai story is NOT for the just a sake of being isekai, but why....

 

[Discount_Blade]

I mean....is NOBODY gonna comment on how he said Hidden Leaf SECT???

My brain fucking hit the brakes and slammed into a guard rail when I read that. That just feels so fucking cringeworthy....

Hidden Leaf Sect.....


It's like when those hyenas were saying Mufasa's name in Lion King and shivering. Cold wind down your back type cringey shit.

 

[BenJepheneT]

I mean....is NOBODY gonna comment on how he said Hidden Leaf SECT???

My brain fucking hit the brakes and slammed into a guard rail when I read that. That just feels so fucking cringeworthy....

Hidden Leaf Sect.....


It's like when those hyenas were saying Mufasa's name in Lion King and shivering. Cold wind down your back type cringey shit.

I take back what I said about crownfall. the clues are all there and we STILL get played like a fucking fiddle

 

[jabathehut]

No, you just don't understand the concept and instead you make it shitposting. Yeah, this thread is utterly "shit" post. Isekai influnences the protagonist to change and adapt the new world. (It's not about just adventuring around the world for wonderful purpose, but to add what's difference between escapism and realism.... or anything more else). The term "Isekai" is for JAPANESE CONCEPT, and Avatar is not relatable between Isekai and the story Avatar itself.

Oh, by the way, writing an Isekai story as an outsider from Japan doesn't mean it's only for JAPANESE, but the concept behind its subgenre itself. For sure, the rightful quality of Isekai story is NOT for the just a sake of being isekai, but why....

Listen dude I've literally read thousands of chapters of both xianxia and isekai. I am a resident authority on this topic.

I mean....is NOBODY gonna comment on how he said Hidden Leaf SECT???

My brain fucking hit the brakes and slammed into a guard rail when I read that. That just feels so fucking cringeworthy....

Hidden Leaf Sect.....


It's like when those hyenas were saying Mufasa's name in Lion King and shivering. Cold wind down your back type cringey shit.

The sect hidden in the leaves... arrogant young master uchiha... naruto gives him a face slapping! The pieces are all there.

 

[jabathehut]

No, you just don't understand the concept and instead you make it shitposting. Yeah, this thread is utterly "shit" post. Isekai influnences the protagonist to change and adapt the new world. (It's not about just adventuring around the world for wonderful purpose, but to add what's difference between escapism and realism.... or anything more else). The term "Isekai" is for JAPANESE CONCEPT, and Avatar is not relatable between Isekai and the story Avatar itself.

Oh, by the way, writing an Isekai story as an outsider from Japan doesn't mean it's only for JAPANESE, but the concept behind its subgenre itself. For sure, the rightful quality of Isekai story is NOT for the just a sake of being isekai, but why....

Also, as I said above, I edited the wikipedia page. Isekai is no longer only limited to Japanese concepts.

 

[jabathehut]

I mean....is NOBODY gonna comment on how he said Hidden Leaf SECT???

My brain fucking hit the brakes and slammed into a guard rail when I read that. That just feels so fucking cringeworthy....

Hidden Leaf Sect.....


It's like when those hyenas were saying Mufasa's name in Lion King and shivering. Cold wind down your back type cringey shit.

kekkei genkai are literally just xianxia blood lines

 

[Discount_Blade]

I take back what I said about crownfall. the clues are all there and we STILL get played like a fucking fiddle

Not sure what you're getting at? Did I miss something from somewhere else?

 

[jabathehut]

Not sure what you're getting at? Did I miss something from somewhere else?

I guess its more like the uzamaki/uchiha sects and theyre in the hidden leaf village