Indomitable human spirit.

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All memes and jokes aside. Do you like it in stories? Do you use it yourself when writing? Lastly, the question that interests me the most. Should it win? Should a human spirit persevere in the face of fate and win, or should it lose?
What I think?
The indomitable human spirit is the reason mankind needs salvation. Our selfishness and pride are what seperates us from God's glory.
This is why Christ tells us to deny ourselves and follow Him. It is humility to admit that our ways are wrong and to turn from them and follow God's way.
 

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Reality, like it or not, oft bends to the will of Man.

Despite all manner of trials and tribulations, our perseverance always pulls through.
 

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Wat is imdomimamble humam spirit?
No, I am serious, I don't understand what you are talking about. Is it like, the powah of frenship or something?
"You trained for ten thousand years but I HaVE FrIEndS!" (and plot armor)
 
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I do write that, yes, my MC have that. But just for the purpose of dying with a good fight, not winning it.
 

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What I think?
The indomitable human spirit is the reason mankind needs salvation. Our selfishness and pride are what seperates us from God's glory.
This is why Christ tells us to deny ourselves and follow Him. It is humility to admit that our ways are wrong and to turn from them and follow God's way.
I was expecting this answer.
Wat is imdomimamble humam spirit?
No, I am serious, I don't understand what you are talking about. Is it like, the powah of frenship or something?
"You trained for ten thousand years but I HaVE FrIEndS!" (and plot armor)
Not really. More of a willpower and perseverence. You never give up your ideals, even after facing countless losses. Usually it is associated with good charactars, like heroes. Character's friends got killed becuase he was saving people? He will keep saving people. He loses his lover? Still saves people. He loses a family? Still saves people. There are more nuances to this and this is one example of many.

If I were to try and generalize, this theme is about struggle between human and fate.
 

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I like it. Protagonist without it are not likable. Should it win? I see no should.
Perseverance or not, sometimes we do not reach our goals. Humans die.
A man dying after having done everything he could is beautiful.
I wrote some poems about fatalism. Personally, I think the concept of fate is deeply disturbing. The thought of being nothing but a thread in a larger tapestry, seeing the threads around you tangling and forming intricate patterns, only to be cut off and replaced eventually... The helplessness is not comforting to me.
Of course, humans can be helpless, but hope is beautiful. Drive is divine to behold. Acceptance looks too dull to me.
I could not stand living in a world populated solely by fatalists.

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Not really. More of a willpower and perseverence. You never give up your ideals, even after facing countless losses. Usually it is associated with good charactars, like heroes. Character's friends got killed becuase he was saving people? He will keep saving people. He loses his lover? Still saves people. He loses a family? Still saves people. There are more nuances to this and this is one example of many.
Then I don't mind it if it's well-written. It can end up looking as a joke. It doesn't have to win, but if it is an achievable and difficult goal and the main character keeps on going, one would expect them to win.
Although Dr Doofenshmirtz has never won over Perry nor have Phoenis and Ferb been revealed by what's-her-name. Tom has never eaten Jerry.
 

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All memes and jokes aside. Do you like it in stories? Do you use it yourself when writing? Lastly, the question that interests me the most. Should it win? Should a human spirit persevere in the face of fate and win, or should it lose?
It is the most generic and yet always the best stories from mindkind. It gives us a sense of value and reflection of the worth of our actions in this world no matter how insignificant it is. Indomitable human spirit is what makes superman the greatest hero and the most boring one.

Annihilation of humanity in all media can only produce a shock factor. It will never ever be capable of evoking the sense of nothingness and meaninglessness of everything that a human had ever thought, learn and feel until there is a character that will show us how we should feel about it.

It can be used and it can be broken, just like how JJK did during that specific arc or in Marvels or DC. The struggle of humans even at miserable cost or straight up in vain will always cause a ripple changing other's fate. Honkai series of MiHoYo are absolute brilliant at this. Their Previous Era is the peak that deserves to be explored but they don't want. They just gave us a heart wrenching, bitter sweet Elysian Realm.

The struggle of humanity, discarding their ethics and their biology just to transcend fighting against their enemies, the struggle of a human that witness countless sacrifice just so that he can seize the chances given by them, and an era fighting against a foe that the world can't vanquish so they can only forge a future ahead hoping the next generation follows it in order to win the freedom humanity deserves.

A hero that wasn't able to save anyone had become the testament of his era. He is a martyr, a cold soldier and his name was long lost its meaning nor is he an existence that should still remain in this planet or dimension with how much his body had endured and transformed to be the unparalleled he is, yet his Deliverance and promises is the only thing that keeps him going to fulfill this lonely mission. He is him. The indomitable human spirit tested by time and tempered by tragedies. Unchanging, matured and nurtured.

His end was just eh... I wanted his end to be grand and deserves all the respect everyone should have given to him but the writers just gave him a bare minimum ending. They didn't miss anything unjustifiable, just that they satisfied it with bare minimum despite how important and heavy of a character he is.

Rest in Peace, Bearer of Deliverance. See you in Honkai Star Rail.
 

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It is the most generic and yet always the best stories from mindkind. It gives us a sense of value and reflection of the worth of our actions in this world no matter how insignificant it is. Indomitable human spirit is what makes superman the greatest hero and the most boring one.

Annihilation of humanity in all media can only produce a shock factor. It will never ever be capable of evoking the sense of nothingness and meaninglessness of everything that a human had ever thought, learn and feel until there is a character that will show us how we should feel about it.

It can be used and it can be broken, just like how JJK did during that specific arc or in Marvels or DC. The struggle of humans even at miserable cost or straight up in vain will always cause a ripple changing other's fate. Honkai series of MiHoYo are absolute brilliant at this. Their Previous Era is the peak that deserves to be explored but they don't want. They just gave us a heart wrenching, bitter sweet Elysian Realm.

The struggle of humanity, discarding their ethics and their biology just to transcend fighting against their enemies, the struggle of a human that witness countless sacrifice just so that he can seize the chances given by them, and an era fighting against a foe that the world can't vanquish so they can only forge a future ahead hoping the next generation follows it in order to win the freedom humanity deserves.

A hero that wasn't able to save anyone had become the testament of his era. He is a martyr, a cold soldier and his name was long lost its meaning nor is he an existence that should still remain in this planet or dimension with how much his body had endured and transformed to be the unparalleled he is, yet his Deliverance and promises is the only thing that keeps him going to fulfill this lonely mission. He is him. The indomitable human spirit tested by time and tempered by tragedies. Unchanging, matured and nurtured.

His end was just eh... I wanted his end to be grand and deserves all the respect everyone should have given to him but the writers just gave him a bare minimum ending. They didn't miss anything unjustifiable, just that they satisfied it with bare minimum despite how important and heavy of a character he is.

Rest in Peace, Bearer of Deliverance. See you in Honkai Star Rail.
Well said.
 
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