In defense of smuthub and sexual content.

[Laeyioun]

I'm sure I won't recommend my siblings and younger cousins to read here. It's better if they start with the boring stuff organically by themselves, because you can't avoid that kind of content here. Or should I say those make up the majority.

I have to mention when I went back to this site after a long time, my eyes were widened open by the offering of content nowadays just by looking at the descriptions and tags. Many genres also found their way and prospered here. Oh how fast websites mature these days!

 

[CL]

Kids around here start being horny at a younger ages then we turn into sages as we grow up. Like 7-8 are the begining stages guys tend to be horny and stuff and when you reach like 17-18, you would already reach the peak sagehood even buddha can commend. Its basically like we can beat NNN as easy as pie once we grow older but we kinda don't question our stupidity, some make mistakes, some impregnates women at an early stage and NTR and adultury is quite common if you observe around here.

K.

 

[Poleg]

He's living in future, dude.

With how things look today, that's not even that much of a stretch

Believe it or not, it is true. Horny isn't the best word to describe it. Perhaps curiosity and awakening of sexuality- that and the feeling of "Hory Sheyt whats this!!!!".

I myself in the past, elementary students, and my childhood friends were like this. It all depends on the environment, circumstances, influences, grwon-ups around, and social groups. Not all. But I do notice that people aren't much open to sharing this because it's awkward as heck, the same as with masturbating. Boys tend to be more open and vulgar because that's what's cool and awesome, while girls tend to play the pretend game because it's shameful and may be frowned upon depending on the culture.

I am not an biologist or something and I know everybody has their own age where they mature but 7/8 is way too young. As I was a child we just trolled each other or some shit.

 

[Laeyioun]

With how things look today, that's not even that much of a stretch




I am not an biologist or something and I know everybody has their own age where they mature but 7/8 is way too young. As I was a child we just trolled each other or some shit.

Internet is literally a treasure trove of stuff that's not supposed to be in the hands of children.

I agree with your second statement. Back then playboys, tapes and dvds were a thing if I'm correct. Some just encounter it earlier than others. I don't mean to normalize it, I just want to spread awareness. Grown-ups should not hesitate to be much more open and educate children with safe and healthy ideas of sex-ed when it's time.

We just have to live with the reality of porn and sexual content that is just one click away compared to the past where it was inaccessible to many. Human curiosity and temptations are influential to the point that many do get introduced. It just varies from person to person. It also shouldn't be stigmatized or frowned upon because sex (and erotica by extension) is a reality that's just so widespread just like our desires of validation, love, hunger, sleep etc. but it is treated differently for some reason. Media played a big part in our walking-around-the-eggshell perception of sex as well.

 

[Poleg]

Internet is literally a treasure trove of stuff that's not supposed to be in the hands of children.

I agree with your second statement. Back then playboys, tapes and dvds were a thing if I'm correct. Some just encounter it earlier than others. I don't mean to normalize it, I just want to spread awareness. Grown-ups should not hesitate to be much more open and educate children with safe and healthy ideas of sex-ed when it's time.

Yes, when it is time. Young children 7/8 shouldn't be around this stuff. Let alone should be free to roam alone the internet.

 

[xluferx]

Did I miss something?
What's the deal with smut and excluding genres?

 

[Poleg]

Did I miss something?
What's the deal with smut and excluding genres?

Some break the rules of this website.

 

[Laeyioun]

Yes, when it is time. Young children 7/8 shouldn't be around this stuff. Let alone should be free to roam alone the internet.

Yep. I should rescind my previous words and mention that I got introduced to the tip of the iceberg of these stuff at more or less 10 years old. Some friends and acquaintances have stories where they learnt of stuff (but not hardcore stuff) at around kindergarten or grade 1... It's used as humor and jokingly said to reminisce of the past but these stories have some truth in them.

 

[Laeyioun]

Some break the rules of this website.

Really?

 

[CL]

I doubt modern children read anyway...

Do subtitles count?

So? It's important for kids to start learning the emotional components to sex as well. Just like we'll explain to our kids that Harry Potter is a fantasy story and Dobby's enslavement is not OK, having examples to discuss helps.

Those are absolutely good points (I won't discredit them). I will say there are some (meaning a few here and there) that wouldn't be a realistic representation for educating young (and do remember vulnerable) minds. Trust me on that one, I've seen action movies that had scenes defying physics and read stories that had me redefining logic (and plowing a cluster of migraines in my head too). I am still frustrated at stories I've read that had their characters falling for their physically and mentally abusive rapists who can't admit (not even once) they were wrong. They're always despising each other and falling in love at the end.

Remember that I am saying this for the kids... It's for our little angels (before we clip their wings).

 

[Suryae]

Also, when

Spoiler

your protagonist gets pregnant from four men at the same time

it's rather difficult to explain how that happened without including the play-by-play combined with the moments the magic triggers.

For some reason, I imagined a male getting pregnant by four men at the same time, I don't know why.

Must be that weird BL doujin getting into me.

 

[LotsChrono]

Congrats, you can now show your little sibling the website and you will no longer run into anything that triggers you. Not that they can't just type "Porn" on google and get a million hits.

Are you a genius?

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

I has no idea what the right to be heard was before you mentioned it was but a 2 minutes search on google point out that the right to be heard basically give childrens the right to express their opinion end require adults to take them on consideration so it has nothing to do with this argument. Anyway even if a novel has a content that might trigger someone none is forcing anyone to read, I read novels because I might enjoy it and if I don't like the content or I think it's inappropriate I simply drop, reporting and trying to remove content mean you entitle yourself to decide that no one else can access said content based on your opinion and this limit the freedom of expression, so the removal of content shouldn't be a thing if you ask me

Well done, constructing straw men is everything you can and I will keep that in mind. Also you have a very absolute interpretation of freedom of thought, a wrong interpretation.

You are in a public space and you should be aware at such.

 

[DreamOfRen]

As someone who writes both, I can honestly say.... people who get upset at "smut" stories getting more views should just learn more about human nature.

As long as you can emotionally invest people, you'll get more out of them.
Sex just happens to be an easy entry point into that investment. Stimulation is also fleeting.
The issue is that, to be a "good" smut story you still have to have a reason for people to keep reading.

It's not as simple as just tossing boobs or whatnot in a story.

Anyone who uses "smut" in a fic as the reason for why their work isn't trending...welll..



I could easily link to several patreon pages where the authors focus on smut free content and generate thousands of dollars a month.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

As someone who writes both, I can honestly say.... people who get upset at "smut" stories getting more views should just learn more about human nature.

As long as you can emotionally invest people, you'll get more out of them.
Sex just happens to be an easy entry point into that investment. Stimulation is also fleeting.
The issue is that, to be a "good" smut story you still have to have a reason for people to keep reading.

It's not as simple as just tossing boobs or whatnot in a story.

Anyone who uses "smut" in a fic as the reason for why their work isn't trending...welll..



I could easily link to several patreon pages where the authors focus on smut free content and easily generate thousands of dollars a month.

Serious question, do you think me stupid, Ren?

 

[DreamOfRen]

Serious question, do you think me stupid, Ren?

That's a very weird question.
I'll answer though. I don't know you to comment on your mental state.

I'm just stating facts.

Royal Road is a whole forum that doesn't allow any smut.
And people still resort to shady nonsense in order to try to get in the top 100.

What's their excuse?

At the end of the day, I think your time would be better spent building a following and studying ways to improve your writing rather than worrying about how smut stories are supposedly damaging your visibility.

The reality is, most of the fics on the trending list aren't even smut stories.
This argument is along the same lines of "should we ban anime picture covers".

It's just linked to a person's inability to accept that they may need to improve.

 

[Ai-chan]

Instead of getting triggered and report content people should just quit reading said content and look for something of their liking, if no one liked smut content it wouldn't be a thing. I'm against report or ban of content of any kind, no matter how crude or unconfortable, since it limit the freedom of thought and expression, just because some people don't like certain content it shouldn't give them the right to stop other people to access it

This is true. The reason why there is no second volume of Felicia's Second Life was because Ai-chan was reported twice to Amazon for pedophilia despite nobody having sex in it. Thankfully Amazon disagreed with the complains and Ai-chan's book was not taken down. However, the entire experiences gave a sour taste in Ai-chan's mouth and Ai-chan has not been able to finish anything since then.

 

[TheMangaGod]

I still don't understand this controversy? I mean my main novel isn't smut and it's doing far FAR better than my two smut novels that I'm doing on the side. As far as I can tell none of the top rated novels on this site are smut so I'm lost as to what the actual issue is. Evidence seems to point to Smut actually doing worse generally as far as I can tell although that might just be bad writing rather than the smut being the problem...

 

[Discount_Blade]

How is this thread still ongoing? No one's introducing anything new. Jeez XDD

 

[Aoibh]