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CrimsonGenius

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When you throw support to something, don’t go off the deep end to the point where you become the people you dislike.

Saw a picture where someone combined two different entities, that initially started as animosity to each other, into one single character demonstrating hateful art as a way of saying ‘Yeah don’t like this guy to the xtreme.’
 

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I remember once several years ago thinking about Isekai stories, and how the "heroes" of the stories didn't act heroic- they would do their own thing, get their own harem, execute their own justice, and flaunt their "modern day ethical superiority" over the enhabitants of the otherworld.

So I started thinking up a story when the MC would become some hero assassin- sent to this other world to execute evil "heroes" and return the isekai world to a normal state again.

But then I stopped to think about the story concept more, and realised it was against almost everything I loved in stories. It was just some form of self-insert revenge-bait story, one of the things I hate. The story wouldn't showcase any form of justice, or comedy, or hope, or love, or even good worldbuilding. The story wouldn't have any substance good for human consumption.

And upon realising that I was surprised at myself for previously thinking such a story would have been interesting.
 

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I remember once several years ago thinking about Isekai stories, and how the "heroes" of the stories didn't act heroic- they would do their own thing, get their own harem, execute their own justice, and flaunt their "modern day ethical superiority" over the enhabitants of the otherworld.

So I started thinking up a story when the MC would become some hero assassin- sent to this other world to execute evil "heroes" and return the isekai world to a normal state again.

But then I stopped to think about the story concept more, and realised it was against almost everything I loved in stories. It was just some form of self-insert revenge-bait story, one of the things I hate. The story wouldn't showcase any form of justice, or comedy, or hope, or love, or even good worldbuilding. The story wouldn't have any substance good for human consumption.

And upon realising that I was surprised at myself for previously thinking such a story would have been interesting.
It's one of many reasons why I don't like stories whose whole gimmick is "I'm not like those other stories! My characters actually struggle!!". They don't really have substance.

Most of the time, they do it just to spite something popular. Other times, they're thinking it's unique. Although the latter could be true, most of what I've seen that do this aren't unique at all.

You should only do an anti-trope story only if you love that trope, since the ones who do this type of story correctly often do it in a subversion of the tropes instead of aversion, and that requires heavy knowledge of the trope.
 

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It's one of many reasons why I don't like stories whose whole gimmick is "I'm not like those other stories! My characters actually struggle!!". They don't really have substance.

Most of the time, they do it just to spite something popular. Other times, they're thinking it's unique. Although the latter could be true, most of what I've seen that do this aren't unique at all.

You should only do an anti-trope story only if you love that trope, since the ones who do this type of story correctly often do it in a subversion of the tropes instead of aversion, and that requires heavy knowledge of the trope.
Generally a good parody only comes from someone that loves the genre they are parodying. When it comes from someone who doesn't it tends to come of as petty and spiteful and just isn't enjoyable.

A good example is the cornetto trilogy by Edgar Wright and Simon Pegg. They parody various genre movies and make fun of a lot of the tropes. However despite them making fun of some of the elements you can still tell they actually love the movies they are poking fun at like ribbing each other between good friends.
 

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I remember once several years ago thinking about Isekai stories, and how the "heroes" of the stories didn't act heroic- they would do their own thing, get their own harem, execute their own justice, and flaunt their "modern day ethical superiority" over the enhabitants of the otherworld.

So I started thinking up a story when the MC would become some hero assassin- sent to this other world to execute evil "heroes" and return the isekai world to a normal state again.

But then I stopped to think about the story concept more, and realised it was against almost everything I loved in stories. It was just some form of self-insert revenge-bait story, one of the things I hate. The story wouldn't showcase any form of justice, or comedy, or hope, or love, or even good worldbuilding. The story wouldn't have any substance good for human consumption.

And upon realising that I was surprised at myself for previously thinking such a story would have been interesting.

It's one of many reasons why I don't like stories whose whole gimmick is "I'm not like those other stories! My characters actually struggle!!". They don't really have substance.

Most of the time, they do it just to spite something popular. Other times, they're thinking it's unique. Although the latter could be true, most of what I've seen that do this aren't unique at all.

You should only do an anti-trope story only if you love that trope, since the ones who do this type of story correctly often do it in a subversion of the tropes instead of aversion, and that requires heavy knowledge of the trope.
Damn... Those are straight-up facts. She/he's spitting fire here, gosh it burns.

Now this kinda makes me overthink about my series. Well, thank you and f*ck you, Zinless. Bit offense, cuz I gotta re-read my stuff and put a new motto, that is "Do stuff, even if it's crazy as long as you like it and be passionate bout it."
 

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What if you like a type of story, but the overwhelming majority do it bad and leave a cringe taste in your mouth when you read them. So you decide, "Imma do it better!"

Can you build a good story with that attitude?
 

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What if you like a type of story, but the overwhelming majority do it bad and leave a cringe taste in your mouth when you read them. So you decide, "Imma do it better!"

Can you build a good story with that attitude?
with absolutely absolute mind
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We live in a crazy world, but the crazy thing is this: we fool ourselves into thinking it's not that crazy, till something crazy happens again. Rinse and repeat. That's what we call history, b/c history is a record of crazy things.
 

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I remember once several years ago thinking about Isekai stories, and how the "heroes" of the stories didn't act heroic- they would do their own thing, get their own harem, execute their own justice, and flaunt their "modern day ethical superiority" over the enhabitants of the otherworld.

So I started thinking up a story when the MC would become some hero assassin- sent to this other world to execute evil "heroes" and return the isekai world to a normal state again.

But then I stopped to think about the story concept more, and realised it was against almost everything I loved in stories. It was just some form of self-insert revenge-bait story, one of the things I hate. The story wouldn't showcase any form of justice, or comedy, or hope, or love, or even good worldbuilding. The story wouldn't have any substance good for human consumption.

And upon realising that I was surprised at myself for previously thinking such a story would have been interesting.
There's multiple stories like the one you described. The one that comes to mind for me was "Cheat Eater: Destroyer Of Those Summoned From Different Worlds" and "The World's Best Assassin, Reincarnated In A Different World As An Aristocrat"
 

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Why is this so vague and non-specific?
This topic needs a poll.
We live in a crazy world, but the crazy thing is this: we fool ourselves into thinking it's not that crazy, till something crazy happens again. Rinse and repeat. That's what we call history, b/c history is a record of crazy things.
Sorry being to vague. I did not want to start something, it’s just frustration with people going the extra mile with things. I checked the user’s picture on DeviantArt again and it looks like he edited the picture to take out some things.

basically it’s a picture of the Red Hood from DC comics facing off against an angry guy in a mask with nazi tattoos on his arm and… a yellow Star of David on his back.

He updated the pic to remove the star.
 

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Sorry being to vague. I did not want to start something, it’s just frustration with people going the extra mile with things. I checked the user’s picture on DeviantArt again and it looks like he edited the picture to take out some things.

basically it’s a picture of the Red Hood from DC comics facing off against an angry guy in a mask with nazi tattoos on his arm and… a yellow Star of David on his back.

He updated the pic to remove the star.
*awkward silence*

Even in artwork, equating Nazis with Jews is the most oxymoronic thing I've ever heard. I'd call that crazy.
 
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