I wanted to write Fantasy novel but I CAN'T

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(idk wtf I'm doing when it comes to writing, so take my opinion half seriously cuz I'm just a hobbyist)

I think it's best to think of your story, what you want to write, and what the world building largely might look like, before thinking of names and stuffs.

Begin with something simple:

Thinking about fantasy systems, I guess start with "something convenient". For example

Irl: I want to drink water, walk to table and grab a cup of water.

Fantasy: *waves wand, cup floats to my hand.

Then give it a name: gravity magic. Or something.

Then to build on it.

Building on a system kinda depends on what story you are writing: for fantasy fights, you can try thinking how to atomize opponents into base particles within the premise of your fantasy systems. After that, then give it some cool effects and names.

Bad guy: you've got some nerves bringing a stick to a gun fight!

MC: waves wand/chant/prey/whatever, lightning/wind/laser beam/a falling anvil/whatever defeats bad guy.

At this point in writing/drafting, there are now two choices (that I can see), try out different abilities, or build on the existing one and expand it.

First choice may keep things fresh as your story goes on: Arc 1 is sword fights, Arc 2 is wizardry, Arc 3 is summoning mythical beasts, Arc 4 is necromancy, etc etc.

But I think the second choice can bring depth in the story. An example is (if you have ever watched or read it) Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood. Alchemy is basically the primary fantasy superpower there is in the entire series.

Episode one: Alchemy is chemistry, but much cooler.

the last few episodes: Alchemy can make you a literal deity with planetary power.

The show never "added" any brand new fantasy system as it went on, but rather, the one from the beginning, alchemy, evolved as the characters learn more about it throughout their journey.

If you are writing more of a slice of life kind of story, heavier thoughts may have to be put into the environment of the story's settings. What kind of world it is. What can MC do? What does the MC want to do? And how can your fantasy system complement it?

Or, in other words: what problems may exist in that world, and how can the MC use the fantasy system that you have built to solve those problems?

On the top of my head, something random like this: one day MC is coming back home from Rainforest University of Dryads and Druids when he/she/it falls down a hole. There the MC encounters an ancient dragon in needs of a legendary Aurous fruit. Considering that the MC has 69,420 whatever fantasy currency amount of student debts, they agreed to embark on a journey in search of this fruit in exchange for the dragons treasure. Throughout this journey, MC must practice and evolve their forest spiritual power, from picking locks with vines and leaves, to growing peaches that can act as light sources. With each encounter MC learns more about the world, of forest spiritual powers, and that the real treasure is the friends they've made along the way blah blah blah.
Start writing and you'll get some ideas of what you want to write.

In either case, I think it's best to first think of something cool, then think of what kind of world it'd be with said cool stuffs in it.

Then try to integrate your fantasy system into your world building.

What would people living in a world with your fantasy system act like? Do they have well established governmental structures revolving around power levels? Do they have organizations specialized in accepting quests that require people doing fantasy stuffs? Is the world post apocalyptic? And does the fantasy system have anything to do with the end of the world.
 
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Naruto and One Piece also have a bad world and bad system in the beginning but expand as the story went and author felt like it.
Still bad, but ppl love it.
I love it because it's a bad world and system. :blob_shade:
 

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Hello guys. I've been trying to finish a novel for 3 years, my first novel is fantasy, but just from coming up with world and fantasy magic names is already hard for me, so I drop it, then I'vw written a few ones, realistic novels and managed to progress with it, I want to write fantasy and it's been 3 years and I haven't come up with anything, am I hopeless when it comes to magic and fantasy stuff or am I not cut out for it? Any Fantasy novel author out there, any tips please.

Writers talk to themselves. They ask the question: what if this could happen? And then they build on that. You mostly interrogate your fantasy ideas.

Years ago, John Cleese did the Dick Cavet show and was asked, presumably as a joke, if his law training had any impact on Monty Python. And instead of a joke, Cleese said: yes it did. You start with a ridiculous premise and everything follows as a logical consequence from that premise. That's what you are doing in fantasy. Consider that you need just a few absurd ideas (maybe just one good one) and then you can build quite good fantasy through self-interrogation.

Example: What if you could extract what the mage thought was the essence of something and then add it into something else? So you could extract the "beauty" in flowers and possibly make yourself or something else more beautiful. Then you interrogate that idea: what's the limit? Can a single rose make you beautiful? Do you need a whole flower shop? Would the expense of the rose matter (magic loves sacrifice so finding a super-expensive rose to make someone really beautiful could be a thing). Would it rather be, as I suggested in the beginning, the rose that most appeals to the mage so it's less the value of the ingredient and more the perceptions of the person casting the spell? Is there a cost in magic? A cost in something else (blood, life, emotion, memories).

Most magic system involve working out what you must sacrifice for getting the results you want.

I'm a bit afraid that since I've done this kind of thing since I was fourteen and I'm almost sixty now, I'm like a mathematician trying to teach math but skipping a lot of steps. There's an incredible amount of aesthetics in writing and I spend a lot of time saying, "is this a good idea?" and "can I add something and make it better".
 

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For place names, one recommendation I read that I have found useful is an excel list that you can mix and match from.

So for example your first group is things like directions-North, South, East, West, Upper, Lower. Then geographic features: Vale, Chasm, Pass, River, Mount, Fenn, Coast, Woods. Then colors, and then animals, materials, ect.
So for a region or city, pick one item from two or more and arrange, so for example, you can have Upper Red Vale. Not too bad right? For a little more variation, you can play around with different languages and change one or two or all the words, so the Upper Red Vale becomes the Upper Rudrum Vale or the Upper červené údolí.

Character names were always harder for me. I spend quit a bit of time on https://www.behindthename.com/ looking at name meanings, or playing around with the random name generator(you can tell it what region/group you want the name from) until I find one that I like.
 
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Just think of what the theme of your story is and make that the magic system.

It's a harem smut? The magic is based on sex.

Girl love? Relationship magic obviously.

Action? Hi-intensity showy magic.

Depression? The magic either comes from overcoming it, or digging even deeper.
 
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Hello guys. I've been trying to finish a novel for 3 years, my first novel is fantasy, but just from coming up with world and fantasy magic names is already hard for me, so I drop it, then I'vw written a few ones, realistic novels and managed to progress with it, I want to write fantasy and it's been 3 years and I haven't come up with anything, am I hopeless when it comes to magic and fantasy stuff or am I not cut out for it? Any Fantasy novel author out there, any tips please.
Why don't you focus on the characters more? You don't need to reinvent the wheel. Your readers will just assume you are writing about a medieval setting. Or, if you are writing about modern times, then just urban fantasy. Also, an outline will help you. You don't need to write something detailed in the outline. Maybe no more than a paragraph.

Happy writing!
 
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