I am going to write smut

[BenJepheneT]

I'd rather the number of writer here grow as that increases my potential audience as well.

i'm more of the kind of guy that goes "smaller the supply, the bigger my share of the demands"

 

[Deeprotsorcerer]

Nah, writers here rarely read other people's stuff. And more importantly, most people here don't even write as much.

Rarely is enough for me. Spread a seed with a 1% growth chance 10,000 times and you get 100. And writers aren't the only ones who lurk the forums.

i'm more of the kind of guy that goes "smaller the supply, the bigger my share of the demands"

That's a method I guess. One that smells like burnt villages and broken dreams, but a method nonetheless. It just really sucks when people actively work to make the community smaller, though.

 

[BenJepheneT]

It just really sucks when people actively work to make the community smaller, though.

Can't say I disagree, though I'm not gonna advocate for it either. You can call me scummy but as long as my prints aren't on the smoking gun, I can sleep soundly at night. Opportunistic, if I have a less direct way to put it.

 

[KoyukiMegumi]

I know how people hate NTR and even if its a light one, they still won't like it.

Its mainly cheating where the MC's wife cheated on him when he was at the lowest yet understands and even has a formal divorce papers ready to break up with her and take their child with him. Plus, they would have an instant regret since he was planning on giving her a better house and a better income before she was caught cheating.

MC is a person of responsibility and even if he loves his wife, he would still make a better decision and leave her if she doesn't plan on being committed.

That I don't consider NTR. That is life. I hope the cheating bitch falls in a hole, though. *breaks a few bones too*

NTR is when the girl/guy is basically cheating for a better experience at sex *horrible shit.* Like this guy/gal makes me feel better. So they leave a better person who treats me like royalty. And go like 'I am leaving you for this trash of a human! He makes me feel better in bed!' Or they get shared around too. Nasty... for me, at least.

I am a hopeless romantic. I hope the succubus is a better gal than that lady!

 

[Deeprotsorcerer]

Nasty... for me, at least.

I'm neither turned off nor partial to NTR and associated scenarios and I don't get why it's so polarizing to be honest.

My best guess is that some people project themselves on the protagonist a bit too hard and they catch feelings when "their" SO gets taken by someone else. While it's literally other people's fetish.

 

[KoyukiMegumi]

I'm neither turned off nor partial to NTR and associated scenarios and I don't get why it's so polarizing to be honest.

My best guess is that some people project themselves on the protagonist a bit too hard and they catch feelings when "their" SO gets taken by someone else. While it's literally other people's fetish.

For me, I am a hopeless romantic! So I hate to see the SO taken or stolen away. Like noooooo!!!!! Breaks my little heart. Of course, it depends on how it is done. Mostly do it for lazy reasons, which end up being a turnoff for me.

If they are being taken to a better place, great! They deserve it! But I guess they can also go to lower places and deserve it too. For me, the NTR has to have consequences to balance it out. Great girl, you found someone to fuck who is better. Just break up with the other dude, please! If not, I hope she falls into a hole... Break a few bones; you know?

Then again I love my pure hot-blooded romance! *No love triangles, no bs situations.* This is my case! But even NTR can be fun to read at times if done right. Though any NTR can be fun, especially when you want to see the world burn in the comments.

 

[TheUnsaid]

My best guess is that some people project themselves on the protagonist a bit too hard and they catch feelings when "their" SO gets taken by someone else. While it's literally other people's fetish.

It's called empathy.

 

[Deeprotsorcerer]

For me, I am a hopeless romantic! So I hate to see the SO taken or stolen away. Like noooooo!!!!! Breaks my little heart. Of course, it depends on how it is done. Mostly do it for lazy reasons, which end up being a turnoff for me.

If they are being taken to a better place, great! They deserve it! But I guess they can also go to lower places and deserve it too. For me, the NTR has to have consequences to balance it out. Great girl, you found someone to fuck who is better. Just break up with the other dude, please! If not, I hope she falls into a hole... Break a few bones; you know?

Then again I love my pure hot-blooded romance! *No love triangles, no bs situations.* This is my case! But even NTR can be fun to read at times if done right. Though any NTR can be fun, especially when you want to see the world burn in the comments.

I see I see. There's shades of grey in it. I personally dislike most "ugly bastard" NTR stuff that emphasizes body odor and smegma and the like "only this sweaty gym teacher's fat cock can satisfy me danna-sama!" (hell, I dislike it even without the NTR).

I got a commission for watersports stuff once. I was hungry so I did it. Never again.

It's called empathy.

Could be. I guess I'm more of a sympathetic reader than an empathetic one. Not that I can't feel the charecters, there's just a degree of seperation.

 

[KoyukiMegumi]

I see I see. There's shades of grey in it. I personally dislike most "ugly bastard" NTR stuff that emphasizes body odor and smegma and the like "only this sweaty gym teacher's fat cock can satisfy me danna-sama!) hell, I dislike it even without the NTR).

Gosh, I see it too often in NTR. I don't know how they find that attractive! Like >.> I like my men smelling nice, not like an overused sock. Though, I guess smelling nice was rare back in the old ages...

But modern bathing before/after sex is good too!!! *Fewer chances of getting a UTI. Tip to everyone ~ Remember to pee after~.*

 

[TheUnsaid]

Could be. I guess I'm more of a sympathetic reader than an empathetic one. Not that I can't feel the charecters, there's just a degree of seperation.

When characters in media get their parents killed, people get sad and angry.
When characters in media lose limbs and have to deal with the ramifications, people feel that loss and despair.

Why does it have to be that when a hardworking husband who takes care of the physical needs of his wife but has a large workweek as a result gets cheated on, the first reaction is... you're self-inserting too hard.

Like... fiction making you feel things is the core of what it does. Empathy is a given.

 

[Deeprotsorcerer]

When characters in media get their parents killed, people get sad and angry.
When characters in media lose limbs and have to deal with the ramifications, people feel that loss and despair.

Why does it have to be that when a hardworking husband who takes care of the physical needs of his wife but has a large workweek as a result gets cheated on, the first reaction is... you're self-inserting too hard.

Like... fiction making you feel things is the core of what it does. Empathy is a given.

The disconnect is where it hits so hard that you drop the story, especially after continuing through depictions of goblin rape, slave ships, sucking chest wounds and more.

But suffering through all that makes someone noble or tragic, while being the victim of an NTR plot makes you a cuck and Lord forbid you empathize with a cuck. So readers refuse to do it rather than risk damaging their personal feelings by processing it, oftentimes citing empathy for the charecter alone only to cheer when a princess has to choose between a throbbing rod and a superheated rod. If that were the case, then some people think getting your SO stolen is actually worse than suffering some of the worst fates known to humankind. That's where the, "he suffered" of high sympathy, variable empathy and the "I suffered" of high empathy + possible self-inserting comes in.

Edit: this is not to say that there aren't other reasons to dislike NTR (Megumi's preference for romantic stories, for example) and I'm not implying that anyone who dislikes it for that reason is automatically a fragile male. You can just not like it because you don't like it.

I don't like Westerns all too much, and I'll usually only accept a job for one if I'm starving. Same principle could apply.

 

[TheUnsaid]

The disconnect is where it hits so hard that you drop the story, especially after continuing through depictions of goblin rape, slave ships, sucking chest wounds and more.

But suffering through all that makes someone noble or tragic, while being the victim of an NTR plot makes you a cuck and Lord forbid you empathize with a cuck. So readers refuse to do it rather than risk damaging their personal feelings by processing it, oftentimes citing empathy for the charecter alone only to cheer when a princess has to choose between a throbbing rod and a superheated rod. If that were the case, then some people think getting your SO stolen is actually worse than suffering some of the worst fates known to humankind. That's where the, "he suffered" of high sympathy, variable empathy and the "I suffered" of high empathy + possible self-inserting comes in.

Edit: this is not to say that there aren't other reasons to dislike NTR (Megumi's preference for romantic stories, for example) and I'm not implying that anyone who dislikes it for that reason is automatically a fragile male. You can just not like it because you don't like it.

I don't like Westerns all too much, and I'll usually only accept a job for one if I'm starving. Same principle could apply.

I'm just going to say this. The way you speak is so disjointed I have trouble following your train of thought.
What disconnect specifically are you talking about?

But suffering through all that makes someone noble or tragic, while being the victim of an NTR plot makes you a cuck and Lord forbid you empathize with a cuck.

You were the one who said

My best guess is that some people project themselves on the protagonist a bit too hard and they catch feelings when "their" SO gets taken by someone else. While it's literally other people's fetish.

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You're downplaying people's empathetic connections to the literature by calling it projecting, and then turning around to say they refuse to accept it. Then you go psychoanalyze the cuck mindset unprompted by anything XD

Not attacking you. I'm seriously just having trouble following your train of thought.

 

[Deeprotsorcerer]

What disconnect specifically are you talking about?

The disconnect is where readers give the okay to things like Globlin Slayer and Redo of the Healer, even reveling in such content (I know that doesn't describe everyone, don't attempt a derail here), only to turn around and run away from the NTR tag. A potential reason for that is indeed reader projection (they want to be Keyaru despite what he does, but don't want to be an NTR victim because that's so horrible). I don't see where I wasn't clear on that.

You're downplaying people's empathetic connections to the literature by calling it projecting, and then turning around to say they refuse to accept it

I'm not downplaying the empathetic connection at all, I'm attributing that empathetic connection to projection, it's linked. The avoidance of the NTR tag in this context is a certain kind of reader's refusal to subject themselves to those feelings, which may be highly personal. Perhaps too personal. Not that anything is wrong with that.

Empathy= you feel what they feel

Sympathy= you understand, or feel for what they feel

With a high degree of empathy, it's difficult to separate yourself from a charecter.

Reread my post, I'm not contradicting myself. You even said "you were the one who said" so I think you get what I mean.

 

[TheUnsaid]

The disconnect is where readers give the okay to things like Globlin Slayer and Redo of the Healer, even reveling in such content (I know that doesn't describe everyone, don't attempt a derail here), only to turn around and run away from the NTR tag. A potential reason for that is indeed reader projection (they want to be Keyaru despite what he does, but don't want to be an NTR victim because that's so horrible). I don't see where I wasn't clear on that.



I'm not downplaying the empathetic connection at all, I'm attributing that empathetic connection to projection, it's linked. The avoidance of the NTR tag in this context is a certain kind of reader's refusal to subject themselves to those feelings, which may be highly personal. Perhaps too personal. Not that anything is wrong with that.

Empathy= you feel what they feel

Sympathy= you understand, or feel for what they feel

With a high degree of empathy, it's difficult to separate yourself from a charecter.

Reread my post, I'm not contradicting myself. You even said "you were the one who said" so I think you get what I mean.

I get it now. No worries.

 

[LilTV1155]

I know how people hate NTR and even if its a light one, they still won't like it.

Its mainly cheating where the MC's wife cheated on him when he was at the lowest yet understands and even has a formal divorce papers ready to break up with her and take their child with him. Plus, they would have an instant regret since he was planning on giving her a better house and a better income before she was caught cheating.

MC is a person of responsibility and even if he loves his wife, he would still make a better decision and leave her if she doesn't plan on being committed.

But I also find it weird that some people prefer the MC to cheat on their partner instead of having it the other way around though.

I'm only doing something simple and had a voting system(Didn't include BL as I haven't been cultured enough to tackle on that topic). The majority voting suggest that I do a DILF(opposite of MILF) with a succubus. It doesn't include NTR yet until it gets popular and since its my first time writing smut, I am still brainstorming ideas.

For the voting listed:
Shota(0 Votes)
Handsome guy(0 Votes)
Average guy(0 Votes)
Ugly Bastard(0 Votes)
Cute Fat guy(0 Votes)
Tomboy(1 Votes)
DILF(2-3 Votes)


I would like to but I am currently busy rn. I still have some RL stuff and only online for a short while.

How about a DILF incubus? Have no one thought of making an incubus yet?

 

[ArcadiaBlade]

But I also find it weird that some people prefer the MC to cheat on their partner instead of having it the other way around though.

How about a DILF incubus? Have no one thought of making an incubus yet?

I was just planning on writing a simple story and raise up my writing skills in writing smut. I got called out because a person I know got betrayed since I am a fellow man of culture and had written so many novels yet I never even written a single smut novel in my life. Which is why I started working on a smut to prove I am indeed a man of culture.

 

[TheUnsaid]

But I also find it weird that some people prefer the MC to cheat on their partner instead of having it the other way around though.

How is this strange?

Like obviously guys generally like regular harems while girls like reverse harems.
It's their own gendered experience and latent desires bleeding through.

I know got betrayed since I am a fellow man of culture and had written so many novels

Man of culture doesn't mean cuck. It just means person who reads porn, either via eromanga or something else.

 

[ArcadiaBlade]

Man of culture doesn't mean cuck. It just means person who reads porn, either via eromanga or something else.

Is there any difference to what I said? I mean I have read porn and adult stuff yet never been writing my own porn novel which means I got called out that since I am a writer yet I never been able to write a single smut novel. He has written so many smut yet he feels betrayed that I never even thinking of even making an attempt to write my own.

 

[MasterHiatus]

And I shall cheer you on

 

[KiraMinoru]

I'm actually very petty, so here I am providing proof and waiting for you to admit you were wrong.

And when sorted by top 100, lowest makes 1.6k a month.

For adult writers...

When sorted by top 100, the lowest makes 759 a month.

In other words, if even the bottom 100th non-smut writer can make ~$1700, almost $1k more than the bottom 100th smut writer, it's not hard to see which genre sees the most success.

EDIT: AND LMAO the "highest" adult writing content creator isn't even a writer, but creates erotic ASMR.

The only issue with your comparison is you’re effectively comparing a smaller niche in writing to everything else out there rather than another niche of writing itself. You’re comparing apples and oranges. I’m not arguing or anything it’s just that your scientific process and statistical analysis is flawed here.

If you want to use this method of analysis you’d need to have a scaling factor. You’d figure out what percentage of adult writing is with respect to all writing. With that you can correct for the difference in sizes.

I’m just genuinely curious about the scaling in this case is all. If the two bases were in a theoretical situation to be equal, what would be the actual result?