I am going to write smut

[Biggest-Kusa-Out-There]

Futa smut!

 

[Tropic_Panda]

easy to write? i mean its easy to me

Then, tell me your proud work that get a submission on publisher which their specialty is smut.

I believe anyone that so good at any aspect of writing, will not spend their time to flex, they will bussy fulfill their contract.
If

Anyone who believes writing smut=easy money is in for a very disappointing wake-up call a few months down the line.

If there are two stories, with same quality in contect, packing, etc, the one that will get more read are the one with higher dose of smut.

 

[tounokenja]

Smut is nice, but only as a service to a properly storied romance or tragedy.

Gotta agree with JamminRabbit. Straight up smut is meh. Nhentai does a better job with a doujin than a novel for that.

But really get me invested with a pairing and then a "special" chapter?

Oh yeah.

 

[Jamminrabbit]

If there are two stories, with same quality in contect, packing, etc, the one that will get more read are the one with higher dose of smut.

I'm glad you were able to distinguish between reads and money. Yes, chances are, a story with greater proportion of smut most likely get more reads at the start, but not necessarily earn as much. This is especially true for webnovels on sites like SH. You can insert the biggest bait story with smut, waifu cover, futa, GL, or what have you, and that story will get a trending-like boost for being in the Latest Update section. Unfortunately, that same story will not be among those that people are subbing to patreon for. LITRPG, gamelit, isekai, fantasy, action, and adventure wherein smut is negligible have more financial success.

 

[TheUnsaid]

And I will not stop

Please do. They're mostly terrible. Like seriously. It would be fun reading a good one.

 

[Tropic_Panda]

people are subbing to patreon for. LITRPG, gamelit, isekai, fantasy, action, and adventure wherein smut is negligible have more financial success.

Do you have the acces for statistic in Patreon? If you do, please show me.

 

[KoyukiMegumi]

Smut is nice, but only as a service to a properly storied romance or tragedy.

Gotta agree with JamminRabbit. Straight up smut is meh. Nhentai does a better job with a doujin than a novel for that.

But really get me invested with a pairing and then a "special" chapter?

Oh yeah.

Doujin mangas usually are attached to a story.~ Usually ships that don't fly in the main series too.

I completely agree with you! Smut alone is good, but a story to go along with it. Now that is better! Hot blooded romances for everyone!

 

[Deleted member 63243]

Please do. They're mostly terrible. Like seriously. It would be fun reading a good one.

Lol

Futa smut!

You gets it

That's exactly the point though. Just smut isn't going to sell. It's the same reason why fanfic doujins and hentai are liked. Same reason there is so much Konosuba ero doujins and ero arts. There is a history and story behind those characters, and they will sell more than if it was a hentai from the start.

Like I'll take porn of Raikage cucking Hinata away from Naruto, rather than a story of some nobody characters that just have sex all the time.

TLDR: Write characters and stories people will care about. Then sprinkle porn into it later for people to go wild over.

You make a sound point ?

 

[Jamminrabbit]

Do you have the acces for statistic in Patreon? If you do, please show me.

I'm actually very petty, so here I am providing proof and waiting for you to admit you were wrong.

And when sorted by top 100, lowest makes 1.6k a month.

For adult writers...

When sorted by top 100, the lowest makes 759 a month.

In other words, if even the bottom 100th non-smut writer can make ~$1700, almost $1k more than the bottom 100th smut writer, it's not hard to see which genre sees the most success.

EDIT: AND LMAO the "highest" adult writing content creator isn't even a writer, but creates erotic ASMR.

 

[Deleted member 63243]

Do you have the acces for statistic in Patreon? If you do, please show me.

Hmm... Alright everyone, let's keep it civil in my thread, I still have to write and think.

It is true, story sells. Readers will financiallly invest in that which they can identify/keep coming back to, the thing they can ponder upon and wonder what's next and the intricacies.

And it is also true, sex sells. Numerous subreddits dedicated for the same purpose and for the ones not looking for the story, pays and all. Can concur with role-playing and stufd but like...

For writers, in my opinion, there is different degrees of fun in different things at different times.
Those that write, do so for various purposes, not just money or reads and all.

For me, I write because I can write.
For you lot, it's something else per individual.

Smut and story do go hand in hand. My reader (of an eldritch smut tale) exists for the combination of the two so I aim to deliver, balance.

I'm actually very petty, so here I am providing proof and waiting for you to admit you were wrong.

And when sorted by top 100, lowest makes 1.6k a month.

For adult writers...

When sorted by top 100, the lowest makes 759 a month.

Brought out the receipts, I see (also, thanks for the insight, I needed this~)

 

[Biggest-Kusa-Out-There]

I'm actually very petty, so here I am providing proof and waiting for you to admit you were wrong.

And when sorted by top 100, lowest makes 1.6k a month.

For adult writers...

When sorted by top 100, the lowest makes 759 a month.

In other words, if even the bottom 100th non-smut writer can make ~$1700, almost $1k more than the bottom 100th smut writer, it's not hard to see which genre sees the most success.

EDIT: AND LMAO the "highest" adult writing content creator isn't even a writer, but creates erotic ASMR.

If you get into writing exclusively to make money, then that's fucking sad. Greed has no place in art, smut or otherwise.
Shit, I've been consistenly reaching the trending list for the last few weeks, and I have no interest in creating a patreon atm even if that would mean i make a few hundred dolaroos with my futa smut fantasy litrpg isekai GL fiction every month. I have dignity, and every writer should.
Making money with writing is okay, but should never be the main objective. You'd end up creating a filthy product instead of something you enjoy doing. Look at every writer there and their works and analyze their writings. Most are a product, a bastard child of greed and rushed creativity to meet a sinthetic demand they imposed on themselves.
Then comes the predatory transaction of advanced chapters, then the parasytic monetization of side stories, then the capitalist trap of giving people a say in your story effectively solving the soul-less production of that item.
It stops being enjoyable for readers and writers when the goal is earning money instead of telling a story.
You can't change my mind.

 

[Jamminrabbit]

If you get into writing exclusively to make money, then that's fucking sad. Greed has no place in art, smut or otherwise.
Shit, I've been consistenly reaching the trending list for the last few weeks, and I have no interest in creating a patreon atm even if that would mean i make a few hundred dolaroos with my futa smut fantasy litrpg isekai GL fiction every month. I have dignity, and every writer should.
Making money with writing is okay, but should never be the main objective. You'd end up creating a filthy product instead of something you enjoy doing. Look at every writer there and their works and analyze their writings. Most are a product, a bastard child of greed and rushed creativity to meet a sinthetic demand they imposed on themselves.
Then comes the predatory transaction of advanced chapters, then the parasytic monetization of side stories, then the capitalist trap of giving people a say in your story effectively solving the soul-less production of that item.
It stops being enjoyable for readers and writers when the goal is earning money instead of telling a story.
You can't change my mind.

Why would I want to change your mind that writing exclusively to make money is sad?

 

[Biggest-Kusa-Out-There]

Why would I want to change your mind that writing exclusively to make money is sad?

ooff forgot to quote another post, that bit wasn't for you. my bad =(

 

[CupcakeNinja]

Then, tell me your proud work that get a submission on publisher which their specialty is smut.

I believe anyone that so good at any aspect of writing, will not spend their time to flex, they will bussy fulfill their contract.
If

If there are two stories, with same quality in contect, packing, etc, the one that will get more read are the one with higher dose of smut.

yeah buddy, i dont have anything to prove to you. I'm a self publisher anyway. You wanna read my work? Gonna have to buy it

I'm actually very petty, so here I am providing proof and waiting for you to admit you were wrong.

And when sorted by top 100, lowest makes 1.6k a month.

For adult writers...

When sorted by top 100, the lowest makes 759 a month.

In other words, if even the bottom 100th non-smut writer can make ~$1700, almost $1k more than the bottom 100th smut writer, it's not hard to see which genre sees the most success.

EDIT: AND LMAO the "highest" adult writing content creator isn't even a writer, but creates erotic ASMR.

A good smut story has to be a romance centric story. Because yeah, pure smut, sex scenes, wont sell well long term. And its probably not going to work well if you release it chapter by chapter.

Litrpg and all those genres, yes you can release chapters and gain patrons if the story is good enough. Those stories tend to be longer. People will invest their time and money.

But smut, romance? Even if it's well written, by nature its nit the same. Unless you make it a story with other genres besides romance and smut, like fantasy and adventure, I doubt people will want to be patrons for it.

THAT SAID. I think smut stories that are well written and already finished can do better than a smut story that's not completed yet.

Cuz let's be honest, smut is junk food. You take bites and are done with it. Other type of genres are a meal.

 

[ArcadiaBlade]

I also plan on writing smut as well. However, I'm still on the planning stage as I am currently writing a story board and expanding my culture until I can write a good one.

 

[Tropic_Panda]

I'm actually very petty, so here I am providing proof and waiting for you to admit you were wrong.

And when sorted by top 100, lowest makes 1.6k a month.

For adult writers...

When sorted by top 100, the lowest makes 759 a month.

In other words, if even the bottom 100th non-smut writer can make ~$1700, almost $1k more than the bottom 100th smut writer, it's not hard to see which genre sees the most success.

EDIT: AND LMAO the "highest" adult writing content creator isn't even a writer, but creates erotic ASMR.

First, you compared between Top Patreon Writing vs Top Adult Patreon Writing.

I think it shoul be between Top Non-Adult Patreon Writing vs Top Adult Patreon Writing.

Second, I think you also should not limit only to100th rank. Why not show all the total number. I mean the lump sum, no need for every list, maybe only first ten, last ten, and the total.

Third, you bring about patreon, so i asked the proof. Meaning, even if your proof is valid, it's only back up your statement about Patreon, but not enough to break my statement.

Because I never said/wrote my statement is only limited to Patreon. It could be said my statement doesn't have any limitation. i mean its for all writing industry. Including any publisher or writer that not use Patreon.

Sorry if i become sore loser or a prick, but i hate going down without a proper fight.

 

[KoyukiMegumi]

I also plan on writing smut as well. However, I'm still on the planning stage as I am currently writing a story board and expanding my culture until I can write a good one.

May I ask *For research purposes* what type of smut it will be? You know GL, BL or normal love~

 

[Tropic_Panda]

easy to write? i mean its easy to me, but explain all these shitty sex scenes i see here if its really "easy". I am a man of quality, sir. Your crappy writing skills wont get my dick hard, know what i mean?

Well, your statement is a serious attack on me, but then you say you have nothing to prove to me.

Also, which work that you have already read. Please tell me, then proof me that its my work. Because, I stopped writing at 2012 and already take down any of my smut work (well maybe there some left over out there that can be used for you to attack me). Then, starting writing again in 2018, without any smut work, mostly short work.

If you don't provide the proof, meaning your statement is base on a bullshit and you dared to used it to attack someone.

Come on, please grow up and don't be such a dick.

 

[CupcakeNinja]

Well, your statement is a serious attack on me, but then you say you have nothing to prove to me.

Also, which work that you have already read. Please tell me, then proof me that its my work. Because, I stopped writing at 2012 and already take down any of my smut work (well maybe there some left over out there that can be used for you to attack me). Then, starting writing again in 2018, without any smut work, mostly short work.

If you don't provide the proof, meaning your statement is base on a bullshit and you dared to used it to attack someone.

Come on, please grow up and don't be such a dick.

That "you" wasnt even directed at you, but used as a general term. Most people understand that given the context. How the fuck am I supposed to know what you write anyway?

 

[Deleted member 63243]

I also plan on writing smut as well. However, I'm still on the planning stage as I am currently writing a story board and expanding my culture until I can write a good one.

Hey if you'd like, let's team up as writing buddies!
(Brainstorming, idea pooling, motivating and more)