How would you deal with your Protagonist as a Mid-stage Villain?

How would you deal with your Protagonist?


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ConansWitchBaby

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Remember that money is a thing and send someone that is far more skilled at the protagonist. Why send a dozen goons of his same level if I can pay for a terminator to take care of it. Even if it bankrupts me, it'll be fine. Ask for trophies of course. So the terminator won't just assume he's dead. Ask for spleen, heart, piece of spine and face.
 

NineHeadHeavenDevouringSerpent

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The protagonist that lives in my story that is still inside my brain would be a tuff nut to confront.

While I know he's a deceitful guy, ruthless and cold blooded enough to rip an unborn fetus right out of a conscious pregnant women all the while thinking if that asset he was nurturing was matured enough to start reaping benefits, I don't know exactly how to uhh use that against him.

The mid stage villian is basically the established system and several billions of lives, but shhh! That's not the point. The point is that it's very easy to get him killed off, hmph! He was anyway hanging by the threads and this was supposed to be his big break into achieving greatness in one shot, so just a small nudge to the laid back organisations that aren't taking the growing crisis seriously and a hint to a certain hidden monster that's on the lookout for the murderer of its child....i think i can finish him off quite easily, without even coming near him let alone see him.


What worries me would be is what after that? Heaven's will is real in the world i created, and that was me...now that I've transmigrated myself down to the sandbox, who's running the show?

What's to say they don't bring him back up and clue in on my existence? A million year old monster in the shadows is stuff of nightmare.

I'll definitely win the first time cause i know the plot, but the second round....the second round is what terrifies me.

He is the one with unending knowledge and experience of this world, all the spells, hidden treasures, nuances and connections that I never bothered/could not write in detail seeing how it was fiction.

Without something extraordinary, a miracle that gives me plot armour and op spells I'd very quickly find myself facing off against a storm of my own making.

I know the stuffs he's capable of, death would be a luxury under his hands. So God no, no way in heaven or hell do I want to partake in this buffoonery of clashing with my protag.
 

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Step 1: Use the far too uncommon long-term thinking.
Step 2: Act based on long-term thinking instead of short-term.
Step 3: I'm not considered a villain anymore? That works.
 

Jemini

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Okay, but what if you just tie her up and then restrain her in a way she can't die?
Then you just have to make sure she can't refuse nutrition, as well as handle sanitization.
I don't know about you, but she sounds fucked to me.

Ok, I said death was one trigger for her time-loop, but it's not the only trigger. She also has a voluntary method where, as long as she has enough magic, she can travel back in time by a few hours. The voluntary time-travel method is actually more controllable than the death method too. Basically, the death method is her spirit having a panic response and just dumping all her magic into the same power that she can also use voluntarily, and just consuming all of her magic on one burst use. With the voluntary method, she can actually specify how many minutes or hours she wants to travel back in time.

She is specifically noted in the series as being impossible to eliminate or contain.
 

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Through a nondescript method you’ve found yourself transmigrated into a Mid-stage Villain/Antagonist about 1-2 arcs before they face off against the Protagonist and die. Your only way back is to survive to the ending, whatever that may be with your presence changing the plot. Either through your current affiliations or past deeds, you will be forced to clash with the Protagonist. With all this in mind, what would you do?

Walk away. Give up. Turn myself in to the allied country and offer to be examined by some high priests to verify my current state as a reincarnation and not the original. There's actually a perfect opportunity to surrender and give up, to communicate with the MCs without any others knowing. The mid-tier antagonist is part of the assault force, and there is a two-day opening for me to discretely communicate and surrender.

There are lots of people who are way stronger than the MCs and their forces, but the mid-tier antagonist is not one of them, nor is the array of forces he has available. And no way in hell am I going to help out the primary antagonist who is this mid-tier antagonist's leader.

Really, the biggest weakness of the antagonists is ignorance. If they had sufficient levels of correct knowledge early enough, the bad guys would have won.

There was just no way for that to have happened. I even call it out at one point:

Akahana frowned. “Is it just me, or does this feel like someone who is confidently running on insufficient knowledge?

With my knowledge, there is no way in hell the other bad guys can prevent me from switching sides. I still wouldn't tell the MC *everything* I know, just enough to kick the timeline close to its previous course. Look, fate/destiny isn't a thing beyond probabilistic predictions, but the Emperor of the Gods has strict rules about meddling with time, and this feels like it might count as *me* screwing with time if I diverge things too far. He's a good guy, but he gets touchy about things like time travel.

It's almost like he doesn't want to get stuck experiencing an exponentially growing number of timelines simultaneously or something. And yes, this means that splitting the timelines does not split Him.
 

CharlesEBrown

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Oh, my protags?

We chill man, all this war's formality and we were just doing shitloads of tomfoolery just to Schadenfreude at each other.

I mean, look at this goober.

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And here's the rest of the morons

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Bro, he's asking what would you do if you were the mid-stage villain forced to meet your protag
I know - and I have too many different possible combinations to give a single answer.
 

CharlesEBrown

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Y-You did not gave your protag op powers, right? Right? Right...
Not the one posted on this site. Heck, for most of the story he is just a normal, though smart-ass, cop... But some of the other ones yeah, kind of. And one of the mid-bosses too; guy may be stronger than all but the true ultimate bad guy (despite being a "mere mortal"). He would be the fun one - I would probably do exactly what he does and try to set up gaming sessions with the heroes... because he is addicted to games in general.
 

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Ok, I said death was one trigger for her time-loop, but it's not the only trigger. She also has a voluntary method where, as long as she has enough magic, she can travel back in time by a few hours. The voluntary time-travel method is actually more controllable than the death method too. Basically, the death method is her spirit having a panic response and just dumping all her magic into the same power that she can also use voluntarily, and just consuming all of her magic on one burst use. With the voluntary method, she can actually specify how many minutes or hours she wants to travel back in time.

She is specifically noted in the series as being impossible to eliminate or contain.
if she's out of mana when she returns to the past then she can basically be spawnkilled
 

Nolff

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Not the one posted on this site. Heck, for most of the story he is just a normal, though smart-ass, cop... But some of the other ones yeah, kind of. And one of the mid-bosses too; guy may be stronger than all but the true ultimate bad guy (despite being a "mere mortal"). He would be the fun one - I would probably do exactly what he does and try to set up gaming sessions with the heroes... because he is addicted to games in general.
He's a gamer I guess.
 

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Unless you have a death wish, you must avoid the protagonist if you are a cannon fodder villain(ess).
 

CharlesEBrown

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He's a gamer I guess.
"You see," he said, "I love games. It may prove to be my fatal flaw. Card, dice, board, word all of them. But my passion, my true love, are role playing games for there I can be the hero, or my favorite, the hero and the villain at the same time..."
 

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"You see," he said, "I love games. It may prove to be my fatal flaw. Card, dice, board, word all of them. But my passion, my true love, are role playing games for there I can be the hero, or my favorite, the hero and the villain at the same time..."
Tell him I despise his flavor of game choice (No offense, but plenty of times I got stomped by not doing the right thing when I already witnessed/learned the game mechanism).
 

MatchaChocolate69

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Dealing with me is very simple, my beloved niece. Lots of hugs and cuddles will do. Maybe a few sweet words too. :blob_uwu:

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Serious response to the thread to avoid going off-topic: Knowing who I'm forced to face and already knowing how the novel ends, I have the advantage of having important knowledge and information. I would tend to avoid direct confrontation with my protagonists because they tend to be lethal and ruthless. Charging head-on against them would surely lead to my defeat. I would try to offer a deal since they also tend to be pragmatic. If you can't beat them, join them.
 

TheMonotonePuppet

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Oh god please no, not even Hajun or others could stand a chance, let alone me who will just get erased with his gaze alone ?

But, I am his author so I know how, befriending him. He's way too friendly for some reason. But I'll have to give up being the villain.
Give up on being the villain?! Colorful insanity!
Dealing with me is very simple, my beloved niece. Lots of hugs and cuddles will do. Maybe a few sweet words too. :blob_uwu:

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Serious response to the thread to avoid going off-topic: Knowing who I'm forced to face and already knowing how the novel ends, I have the advantage of having important knowledge and information. I would tend to avoid direct confrontation with my protagonists because they tend to be lethal and ruthless. Charging head-on against them would surely lead to my defeat. I would try to offer a deal since they also tend to be pragmatic. If you can't beat them, join them.
Well thought out!
 

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Through a nondescript method you’ve found yourself transmigrated into a Mid-stage Villain/Antagonist about 1-2 arcs before they face off against the Protagonist and die. Your only way back is to survive to the ending, whatever that may be with your presence changing the plot. Either through your current affiliations or past deeds, you will be forced to clash with the Protagonist. With all this in mind, what would you do?
I would (try to) gaslight the protagonist into believing that I was "good" the entire time.
 

Thraben

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Through a nondescript method you’ve found yourself transmigrated into a Mid-stage Villain/Antagonist about 1-2 arcs before they face off against the Protagonist and die. Your only way back is to survive to the ending, whatever that may be with your presence changing the plot. Either through your current affiliations or past deeds, you will be forced to clash with the Protagonist. With all this in mind, what would you do?
This scenario actually gives you a pretty good chance to just fuck off and leave the protag alone. Like, seriously, you can just stop at any time. the antagonist of my current story is an embodiment of the '1mil to peel and eat an entire orange' meme, in that they could stop and be fine at literally any point for literally any reason and not have to die.
 

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The novel I'll be using is an idea I had - With Adam from the bible as the protagonist, he has very simple fire powers but is just really, really strong and uses his fire powers in ways I personally think are cool.

First of all, as the main antagonist, I am God - like the biblical one, except in the novel he is a floating head, neck included, that changes to be the head of any human to ever be born on the planet every millisecond, voice changes along with it, along with five rings of human hands, each hand with four fingers and two thumbs, interlocked together - twitching, black eyes ranging from one gigantic eye to tens of smaller, clustered eyes on each hand's dorsal side - the fingernails of the hands are wings.

Also, they aren't a singular entity - its more like an amalgamation of Angelic body parts, desires, and their religious belief that they are above humanity, animals, plants, and anything that wasn't just specified.

Given that this version of God can convert ideas, creativity, ideals, truths, and desires into either physical form or into Divine Energy, which can then be transferred into attacks that cannot be blocked, destroyed, stopped, or weakened and is also capable of changing the properties, appearances, and shape of anything it can touch, I would take his wife, Eve, and transform her into one of the hands on my rings.
Then, when his attacks came, I would use his wife as a shield, whilst also using her control over the cold to ease Adam's fire hands, slowly but surely ticking away at him - but, like Adam would, he would definitely find a way around it - either by adding fire to the Divine Energy attacks to make them fire-based, which he is entirely immune to, or he would find another way.

Either way - I'm absolutely fucked.
 
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