How to Hate AI Correctly.

[Justhetip...]

I have an unfinished course project, meant to be submitted today, and instead, I found myself binging bbno$'s tiktok page, along with the whole "commissioning artists instead of using AI" drama.

And it just came to mind that out there, there are authors who absolutely abhor the use of AI. And I'm not just talking generated slop, but also using it to brainstorm and bouncing back ideas.

Then these same folks will turn around and shamelessly use AI generated images for their covers and illustrations, spouting bullshit about commission costs, or how insufferable artists are.

Sometimes last year, I was an active lurker on the webnovel writers discord server(on an alt), and there were some authors I saw who would hypocritically condemn AI, then go to the novel artwork channel(which is almost entirely AI generated stuff) and then ask for someone to help them input their prompts.

Of course most of the authors there, and in a lot of other places don't actually give a damn about AI, but if you happen to be an author that hates AI with passion in writing, then please extend that passion to art too, and just be a full-time hater.

Thank you.

 

[ArcadiaBlade]

Eeeehhh....I'm kinda traditional. AI stuff kinda scares me since I watched terminator as a kid. Plus, whenever I tried using AI stuff, my instincts tend to go haywire that I never tried using AI to my writing.

While it would significantly boost the help in writing novels, I don't really know if readers would like to read my novels with AI mixed into it or I would even read my own works at all(I would often go back to reread my old works to summarize my mistakes and improve).

 

[ShrimpShady]

My stance has always been that using AI to create things for you is cringe. If you're a writer and using it as a tool to assist the writing process, that's whatever. I'll even tell ChatGPT to look through what I've written for any weird bits because sometimes I'll do something incredibly stupid like using a word totally wrong. The AI can spot stuff like that, while I obviously can't.

Where I think it crosses over into lame territory is when you get it to make things for you. That includes prose, poetry, art, fried chicken recipes, and music. Apart from the laziness of it, AI-generated media is just ass and an artistic flatline.

 

[TASTYLEADPAINT]

I'm 50/50 on the use of AI. Using it to write your entire story is a no no. Writing is fun asking a robot to do it for you defeats the point of being an author.

Using ai to proof read and bounce ideas off is okay hell I suggest it. Having someone to brainstorm with is a great thing and chat gpt is great tool to help with that.

I have no problem with using ai to generate a book cover. Somepeople have to remember that artists are expensive to hire.

Case in point this costed me around 100 from fiverr

whilst midjourney costs a fraction of that and can make 100s of pieces. Which is great for authors on a low income. I say if you can afford to commission always do that.

 

[Corty]

I hate AI when it isn't doing what I want it to do. Then, when it does, I like it.

It is just a toxic relationship, one that you can't get away from because now every algorithm is labeled as an AI, too.

 

[Aaqil]

because now every algorithm is labeled as an AI, too.

Truly is incredible to see something that's existed forever have "AI-Enhanced" slapped on the marketing for the buzzwordiness of it,

 

[RepresentingWrath]

As wise people said, who are you to decide who is more worthy, writer, or fanfic writer? Both deserve respect.

Who are you to decide who is more worthy; prompter or artist, prompter or writer? Both deserve respect.

 

[JayMark]

As wise people said, who are you to decide who is more worthy, writer, or fanfic writer? Both deserve respect.

Who are you to decide who is more worthy; prompter or artist, prompter or writer? Both deserve respect.

Sailus is being Sailus again.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

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That would be me.

 

[Garolymar]

I have a pretty positive outlook on the whole ai thing, I dunno having somebody chat with you about your story, discuss themes, tell you how an idea sounds. Even if I know it's just blowing smoke up my ass, it sounds genuine enough where I can kinda see where things might be okay and then where other things might kinda suck. I dunno, definitely would've probably just kept the story as day dreams in my head if I didn't have my lil robot dude hyping me up all the time.

As for like drawings and that sort of art, I can't speak on it too much I guess since I don't really draw all that much myself. But I dunno if I was an artist, at least one for fun that is, I'd be kinda excited if I could draw a character and then have an AI animate it for me. If it could somehow eliminate a lot of the busy work while still allowing the artist to express themselves I think that is kind of the peak essence of what AI could be as a tool. I guess in the writing sense it would be like asking the AI for the correct word for a certain situation, or seeing different ways a sentence could flow. Like the ultimate thesaurus.

 

[Indianfantasy]

Honestly, I don’t think I have much writing talent—but I do have a wild imagination when it comes to worldbuilding. Still, even when I try to write with AI, it feels like I’m trying to teach a genius 5-year-old who just doesn’t quite get what I mean. It gives me such a headache, I’m only 20 but I feel like I’m aging fast—my hair’s about to turn white from the stress."

 

[Lysander_Works]

My stance has always been that using AI to create things for you is cringe. If you're a writer and using it as a tool to assist the writing process, that's whatever. I'll even tell ChatGPT to look through what I've written for any weird bits because sometimes I'll do something incredibly stupid like using a word totally wrong. The AI can spot stuff like that, while I obviously can't.

Where I think it crosses over into lame territory is when you get it to make things for you. That includes prose, poetry, art, fried chicken recipes, and music. Apart from the laziness of it, AI-generated media is just ass and an artistic flatline.

In particular, those who use AI to generate entire plots/books for them and pretend like it is their own hard work.

 

[JayMark]

How to 'ACTUALLY' hate AI correctly.

1. Summon AI.
2. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr, AI, HATE! Hulk Smash!
3. Smash your computer while wearing Hulk gloves.

 

[Alski]

@Ai-chan

 

[Deleted member 84247]

AI is not even really AI. The term is a marketing tool. There is not AI, but there is models trained on data from internet users. It's nothing else than that really. A true AI would have capacity to learn entirely knew thing without being told and grow on its own.

With that being said, I no longer use "AI" for art, and I never used it for writing. Although, I don't care what others do with it. However, I will say that AI covers have become a dime a dozen. If you make your own cover on canva and simply add the title with some random background stuff from there, your cover is already more unique than all of the AI images.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

AI is not even really AI. The term is a marketing tool. There is not AI, but there is models trained on data from internet users. It's nothing else than that really. A true AI would have capacity to learn entirely knew thing without being told and grow on its own.

Did you blatantly copy beast's post and thought no one would notice it?

 

[Deleted member 84247]

Did you blatantly copy beast's post and thought no one would notice it?

Nope. But if he said that, it's true.

 

[Macha]

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Did you blatantly copy beast's post and thought no one would notice it?

It's okay. They are the same person.

 

[Deleted member 84247]

It's okay. They are the same person.

Fuck you too, Macha.

 

[tiaf]

I hate AI when it isn't doing what I want it to do. Then, when it does, I like it.

It is just a toxic relationship, one that you can't get away from because now every algorithm is labeled as an AI, too.

AI doesn’t give me my desired effect. It even failed on me when I was searching information online and for Neptune’s sake, give me an AI free image collection to search for references. I’m tired of the very same portrait/bust pose with same face syndrome.

Therefore I’ll hate it, abhor it, and exorcise with my data salt.