How to defeat procrastination.

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Everything works differently for ppl, best way imho is try out stupid shits that might work like writing while being blow by a carp
 
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I feel like I'm going to have a pop quiz tomorrow. :blob_pat_sad:

Flow state... Ffflllooowww State... Inertia.... System Avoidance...

Nailed it! :blob_uwu:
 
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Jemini said:
According to the video, literally the worst advice ever. Only works (some of the time) for 1 out of the 3 causes of procrastination. So, it'll really not work out well at all for the other two.
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According to me, it is a skill issue.

I don't need a fancy video to tell me if you procrastinate, it is because of:
  • Laziness
  • Not wanting to do something
  • Avoiding confronting the thing
If you need a video or someone to tell you how to grow up, you won't grow up.

Yoda said it best.
 
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Corty said:
According to me, it is a skill issue.

I don't need a fancy video to tell me if you procrastinate, it is because of:
  • Laziness
  • Not wanting to do something
  • Avoiding confronting the thing
If you need a video or someone to tell you how to grow up, you won't grow up.

Yoda said it best.
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Corty said:
According to me, it is a skill issue.

I don't need a fancy video to tell me if you procrastinate, it is because of:
  • Laziness
  • Not wanting to do something
  • Avoiding confronting the thing
If you need a video or someone to tell you how to grow up, you won't grow up.

Yoda said it best.
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And this attitude helps no one.

Being more understanding of the issue will get a lot more people motivated and putting out good work. This is what I am trying to do here.

Anyway, since you haven't watched the video, one of the three issues that can lead to procrastination is actually something that highly productive and motivated people tend to fall victim to. It is a neurological/hormonal miss-firing issue, in which your anticipation actually triggers your fight or flight response and turns into avoidance when you actually get ready to approach the issue. If you're the type who wants to work and then you go to your computer and open up a word proccessor and suddenly find your mind just going blank, this is the issue you're experiencing.

What you're saying here will not help these people, and only serve to destroy their motivation.

If you're able to get things done yourself, good for you. If you want to help other people with their issues, I say you need to either stop talking or go ahead and watch the video.

And seriously, you are doing nothing but harm with the things you are saying here. You really should stop.
 
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Jemini said:
And this attitude helps no one.

Being more understanding of the issue will get a lot more people motivated and putting out good work. This is what I am trying to do here.

Anyway, since you haven't watched the video, one of the three issues that can lead to procrastination is actually something that highly productive and motivated people tend to fall victim to. It is a neurological/hormonal miss-firing issue, in which your anticipation actually triggers your fight or flight response and turns into avoidance when you actually get ready to approach the issue. If you're the type who wants to work and then you go to your computer and open up a word proccessor and suddenly find your mind just going blank, this is the issue you're experiencing.

What you're saying here will not help these people, and only serve to destroy their motivation.

If you're able to get things done yourself, good for you. If you want to help other people with their issues, I say you need to either stop talking or go ahead and watch the video.

And seriously, you are doing nothing but harm with the things you are saying here. You really should stop.
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Tell me you are buying motivational books without telling me you are buying motivational books.

I grew up avoiding things and pushing everything to the last moment, especially in my studies.

The only “help” that worked came from within, deciding to stop it and “just do it.”

No Grand speech will help someone who procrastinates over and over again. They either realize they are their own enemies or let them do it and be their own ruin.

So no, I am not here to help anybody but to tell it as it is.

You either start doing the thing you are constantly putting off or you don't. I still have the urge to postpone things but I force myself to not fall into old habits.

Your will is the only thing you need and not an explanation of why you are weak so you can take comfort in it and point at it as another excuse.

Simple.
 
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Tell me you are buying motivational books without telling me you are buying motivational books.

I grew up avoiding things and pushing everything to the last moment, especially in my studies.

The only “help” that worked came from within, deciding to stop it and “just do it.”

No Grand speech will help someone who procrastinates over and over again. They either realize they are their own enemies or let them do it and be their own ruin.

So no, I am not here to help anybody but to tell it as it is.

You either start doing the thing you are constantly putting off or you don't. I still have the urge to postpone things but I force myself to not fall into old habits.

Your will is the only thing you need and not an explanation of why you are weak so you can take comfort in it and point at it as another excuse.

Simple.
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Ok, so 1, I'm not buying motivational books. What I do have is experience in dealing with people who have mental disabilities and other serious life problems, and I know from FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE that the things you're saying here are incredibly harmful. If I were to say the things you're saying to any of my clients, it would cause them to back-slide and undo months of hard work.

You may think what you're doing here is the tough love people actually need to hear, but I've actually seen this stuff on a professional level, and there's nothing more frustrating than seeing a careless word from someone who thinks they're giving tough love turn someone who was doing well all of a sudden get ruined and having to start all over again with them to build them back up. You really don't know how wrong you really are in what you're saying here.

2. What you are doing here is trying to cram down one-size fits all advice onto an issue that SCIENCE AND PROFFESIONAL RESEARCH has found has 3 different primary causes and a whole host of different presentations. At the very least though, the three causes are a good starting point to give us the tools we need to start really approaching the problem in a tailored way for each person and meet them where they are.

Also, you mentioned you have your own procrastination issues and you are currently brute-forcing your way through it with the "just do it" approach. Well, it sounds to me like that approach may not be optimal for you. Perhaps you should try just giving the video a watch and maybe learn some better tools. I can tell you from my own field of work that having more tools is always a help. Even if you've found something that sorta works for you, you might be able to find a better tool and something that works better for you.

EDIT: In regards to the "old fashioned tough love" approach, my experience with it is that it follows the classic 80/20 rule. Which, would be more accurately expressed as the 20/60/20 rule. It actually works for 20% of people. For 60% of people, it will have no result. It will neither help nor harm. But, for another 20% of people, usually the worst off in dealing with these issues, and also the populations I tend to work with the most, the "tough love" approach will completely destroy them. They will break.

For this reason, there is nothing more irresponsible than this "tough love" approach. From what I've seen, "tough love" is just people's excuse to be nasty to others. It is an expression of frustration. You are looking for the easy quick approach because you don't want to get down and dirty and do the work that it really takes to help. This is fine when it's in your own life, but here we're talking about working with other people's lives.

It's the equivalent of seeing a person injured and suffering in the street, and then your solution is to start cracking a whip at them and telling them to get back to work, kicking them while they're down, and saying this is you trying to help them.

It is a downright evil way to approach this issue once everything's laid out on the table. The most charitable evaluation of people who use this approach is that they just don't understand the harm that they're doing. More likely, as I said, you're just lazy. Your own words right back at you. But, if you can hear all of this and still want to insist on the "tough love" approach, then what you are doing is down right evil.

If you don't understand, learn to be better. If you're lazy, fine, be lazy. Just keep being lazy when it comes to other people's lives, because you are more helpful saying nothing than saying that crap. If you know this is harmful and you still say it anyway, then you are evil.
 
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Corty said:
Is it in your practice to diagnose people over the internet? Very unprofessional for a practicing psychiatrist. I thought they wouldn't do something like that. Web MD didn't mention that?
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The hypocrisy is strong with this one.

At this point it's fairly clear you are just trying to get any cheap strike in you can think of since someone has outweighed you on all three fronts of Aristotelian logical argument (ethos (credibility), logos (logic and evidence), and pathos(emotional arguments)), so now you are just trying to get in some cheap shots.

Well, because I'm salty, I'm just going to say this. I am now acknowledging you as a troll, and therefore I will regard any furthering of this behavior as harassment since the credible grounds for proper argument are now over. I am going to ask you to please stop on grounds of posterity, and report any further attempts at throwing cheap shots.

(Proper argument will not be defined as cheap shots. BTW, my definition of a proper argument would involve the good-faith addressing of the points I laid out in my most recent post above. The long one, that I just about doubled in length with an edit in which I ranted against the "tough love" approach.)
 
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Jemini said:
Well, because I'm salty, I'm just going to say this. I am now acknowledging you as a troll, and therefore I will regard any furthering of this behavior as harassment since the credible grounds for proper argument are now over. I am going to ask you to please stop on grounds of posterity, and report any further attempts at throwing cheap shots.
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I am not arguing with you. I am telling you.

No matter how hard you try to portray yourself as an intellectual, you are not one. Fancy words don't make you smart, especially when you only bust them out after getting your tail stepped on.

Most educated people do not speak like this, only those who want to parade as one. I am 100% doubting you have any real credentials anyway and simply regurgitating Google searches in a forum post to pose as a Big Brain commentator who knows it best, no matter the field.
 
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