How the heck to market a story?

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John_Owl

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I was rushing when I was getting my profile set up! :blobrofl: I've been trying to create something I can use that looks more manly, but they all either turn out as buff furries or women (since that's what my readers tend to like). plus, most of the art is r18, and I can't use hat for the pfp.
 

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THAT'S MALE????!

THAT DON'T EVEN RESEMBLE MAN IN A SINGLE WAY!!


Look man, what you need is patience. You'll end up burning your mind and prolly decrease your health.

Remember, too much is dangerous. You can't swallow more than what you can chew.
I'm long past burnout. And I've just committed to a 900,000 word rewrite that is probably gonna get me nowhere I'm not already at because I can't seem to ask for help or advice anywhere without getting laughed out of the thread.
 

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I'm long past burnout. And I've just committed to a 900,000 word rewrite that is probably gonna get me nowhere I'm not already at because I can't seem to ask for help or advice anywhere without getting laughed out of the thread.
You're on your own, my guy.
 

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Oh hoho, let me elaborate with you for a moment.

You see, a thread like this could appear once in a week, heating the site for an unknown amount of time.

This is an example of it.

"Posted by ThatTwat3000

I mark this profile as the origin of the “Hopper Incident.”

Start: https://forum.scribblehub.com/threads/just-got-my-first-one-star-rating.19128/post-447144
Debate: https://forum.scribblehub.com/threads/got-1-star-because-of-a-comment-in-forum.19131/
Aftermath: https://forum.scribblehub.com/threa...on-and-banning-process-works-or-doesnt.19134/
"
I love how small the community is, It's funny in a way that one person can stir all the active members into a frenzy.

What would that have to do with me though? Is it the idea that I'd be review bombed by someone because they're upset that I debated them? I'm still a little bit confused but it's interesting having uncovered some juicy lore. ?
 

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Oh, this thread has well established they don't care about gender.

Which is why I am trying to determine if a) I really am at bottom, and b) if there is a way to drill sideways into a bigger well.
As to this, Good on you! It is a good idea to check those options out. I guess my biggest question to that would be; With such a heavily established narrative and so much investment, Is it truly worth uprooting that to pursue fame and clicks?

I think it might be time for a check of your motivation and why it makes you so unhappy.

Some artists become slaves to their own work and audiences and I'd hate for you to slave away and develope or fester more resentment for an audience that seem to grow after plateauing.
 

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I love how small the community is, It's funny in a way that one person can stir all the active members into a frenzy.

What would that have to do with me though? Is it the idea that I'd be review bombed by someone because they're upset that I debated them? I'm still a little bit confused but it's interesting having uncovered some juicy lore. ?
Oh nah, you'll be a great contributor to heat the fire.

Is the misgendering *really* necessary or is that just a fun extra kick in the ribs for you?
I'm a hobby writer, don't ask me that.
 

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Oh nah, you'll be a great contributor to heat the fire.


I'm a hobby writer, don't ask me that.
Oh why thank you! I'm flattered, Challenging ideas and expanding thought is honestly something I love giving and receiving.
I'm glad to contribute to this flaming plain of war and chaos. ?
 

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As to this, Good on you! It is a good idea to check those options out. I guess my biggest question to that would be; With such a heavily established narrative and so much investment, Is it truly worth uprooting that to pursue fame and clicks?

I think it might be time for a check of your motivation and why it makes you so unhappy.

Some artists become slaves to their own work and audiences and I'd hate for you to slave away and develope or fester more resentment for an audience that seem to grow after plateauing.
That is definitely where I am.
I had accepted that there was no hope for it to grow - that I'd hit "the bottom of the well" of a 40-year-old fandom.
And then they had to go announce a reboot of the anime, and do the most dangerous thing imaginable: they gave me hope.

And so now I am frantic to position myself to best catch a wave that I can only hope is coming, and know that if I miss that once-in-a-lifetime second bite at the apple, I'll regret it for the rest of my life. And I know that I might do everything right and still get nowhere. I have 5 days to figure this out, and to put my absolute best foot forward, and let the chips land where they may. Do I think I'm going to suddenly be 50 shades of gray? Of course not. But I'd be happy with a 20% increase.

I feel this EXTRAORDINARY pressure to maximize the chance I never thought I'd get, DESPERATE to try to maximize my chances with every understanding that they are still small - and I'm going to anyone who will listen asking for advice, and all I get is "sucks to suck" and a Kick Me sign for everyone's amusement.
 

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I'm long past burnout. And I've just committed to a 900,000 word rewrite that is probably gonna get me nowhere I'm not already at because I can't seem to ask for help or advice anywhere without getting laughed out of the thread.
And as for this, Please just take a break.

You've done a good job and you're at your breaking point. Don't become a slave to your work, All good stories have an end.

You can always put down the metaphorical pencil and take a second to breathe. You deserve to after all your contribution.
 

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And as for this, Please just take a break.

You've done a good job and you're at your breaking point. Don't become a slave to your work, All good stories have an end.

You can always put down the metaphorical pencil and take a second to breathe. You deserve to after all your contribution.
My readers tell me that all the time. But now of all times, I can't - not and risk missing any wave of new readers that might come from the anime reboot.
 

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Oh why thank you! I'm flattered, Challenging ideas and expanding thought is honestly something I love giving and receiving.
I'm glad to contribute to this flaming plain of war and chaos. ?
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That is definitely where I am.
I had accepted that there was no hope for it to grow - that I'd hit "the bottom of the well" of a 40-year-old fandom.
And then they had to go announce a reboot of the anime, and do the most dangerous thing imaginable: they gave me hope.

And so now I am frantic to position myself to best catch a wave that I can only hope is coming, and know that if I miss that once-in-a-lifetime second bite at the apple, I'll regret it for the rest of my life. And I know that I might do everything right and still get nowhere. I have 5 days to figure this out, and to put my absolute best foot forward, and let the chips land where they may. Do I think I'm going to suddenly be 50 shades of gray? Of course not. But I'd be happy with a 20% increase.

I feel this EXTRAORDINARY pressure to maximize the chance I never thought I'd get, DESPERATE to try to maximize my chances with every understanding that they are still small - and I'm going to anyone who will listen asking for advice, and all I get is "sucks to suck" and a Kick Me sign for everyone's amusement.
My readers tell me that all the time. But now of all times, I can't - not and risk missing any wave of new readers that might come from the anime reboot.
I see, It truly is tragedy as old as time honestly and you have my pity, Not to belittle you but to come alongside you.

Seeing this second chance is wonderful and if you're really dead set on it, Be my guest.
Don't take the community so personally, It's a little rough around the edges and to be frank, You came off as very "Angry angsty fanfic writer entitled to an audience" at first.

Seeing all these things in a new light however, I see that you're someone passionate about your work and trying to bring more media to a Fandom you're truly invested in.
A writer who's got their second breath coming and a genuine reinvigorated.

I'd say embrace the time you have, Don't rewrite EVERYTHING, Instead think of how you'll entice both new and old viewers and continue moving forward.
 

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It also doesn't help you publish all the volumes as separate books when you should have continued uploading in the same book regardless of volumes, like this you lose out readers and popularity over time, one of the mistakes some authors do.

Anyways, seeing how long this thread ended becoming, its clear you got all the attention you wanted anyways, lmao
 

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It also doesn't help you publish all the volumes as separate books when you should have continued uploading in the same book regardless of volumes, like this you lose out readers and popularity over time, one of the mistakes some authors do.

Anyways, seeing how long this thread ended becoming, its clear you got all the attention you wanted anyways, lmao
Really wasn't my intent to get 10 pages of misgendering and taunting, but...
 

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I see, It truly is tragedy as old as time honestly and you have my pity, Not to belittle you but to come alongside you.

Seeing this second chance is wonderful and if you're really dead set on it, Be my guest.
Don't take the community so personally, It's a little rough around the edges and to be frank, You came off as very "Angry angsty fanfic writer entitled to an audience" at first.

Seeing all these things in a new light however, I see that you're someone passionate about your work and trying to bring more media to a Fandom you're truly invested in.
A writer who's got their second breath coming and a genuine reinvigorated.

I'd say embrace the time you have, Don't rewrite EVERYTHING, Instead think of how you'll entice both new and old viewers and continue moving forward.
I came in already frustrated from being denied the chance to advertise on Royal Road because it's a fanfic. I haven't meaningfully slept in a week. I was hoping for a "we're all in the same boat, here's one or two things that we tried that might marginally help" and it felt like right off the bat it was like "where do you get off wanting readers for your story?"

Nearly without fail the readers I have say it's among the best - if not the best - fanfiction they've ever read. Some say it's better than stuff like Worm. Probably 10% of my readers say they come from outside the Ranma fandom, and they have validated time and again that the story is welcoming to people without fandom knowledge. And so I find myself in this place where, impostor syndrome says "don't believe them, you're not that good, nobody outside Ranma wants it" and everybody loudly says "but yes you are" all over my discord, all over the comments. It puts me in this place where I am like "well okay let me try to do something real with this" and then the boot of reality comes crashing down without even giving it a chance, with the assumption that I must just suck, and the basic disrespect to repeatedly misgender me as the icing on top. I don't know how I managed to be cursed with both a giant ego and zero self confidence simultaneously, but here I am. I want to believe what the reviews and the readers say, but it's like "Well if I'm so good then where the hell is everybody? Is it a marketing thing? Is it a "hit the bottom of the well" thing? Do I believe the hype people are saying about me? Do I not?"

I'm in an extraordinarily vulnerable position here, eating anti anxiety meds like they're M&Ms, just to wade back out to get my teeth kicked in some more in the hopes of getting one or two nuggets of wisdom that will help me catch even 1% more of a wave I've waited my whole life for and will likely miss anyway.

This is the biggest, most ambitious thing I've done in my life. And I just want somebody to give a damn about it, and I don't know how anybody calls themself a writer or an artist of any kind, and doesn't understand that.
 

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It also doesn't help you publish all the volumes as separate books when you should have continued uploading in the same book regardless of volumes, like this you lose out readers and popularity over time, one of the mistakes some authors do.
Was also thinking of this. 370+ chapters and the story ongoing just looks looks more appealing to readers. Maybe that might help gain more traction? Just put intervals between the different books/volumes as that works for separators. I'm sure the remake will also bring some more viewers your way.

The downside is, I'm not sure how many casual Ranma watchers want a more serious fanfic switching the genre so seriously. Personally at least, I liked the show but I can't imagine the casual fanbase wanting only the female side as well as diving into all the serious trans stuff. It's a gimmick within a gimmick within a gimmick, you probably already know this by now. I'm sure you'll find some more viewers tho, don't commit to a 900,000 word rewrite. You'll drive yourself insane!

Really wasn't my intent to get 10 pages of misgendering and taunting, but...
You do know some people use guy/dude/bruh irrelevant of gender, right? At least that's how it seemed to begin with...
 
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