How do you write smut... or even basic human interaction.

[NotaNuffian]

I need help. HALP.

So way too much xianxia and brainless action CN novels plus a bunch of JP action and KR action has caused me to lack the basic ability to write a normal human interaction. That and I don't have friends, is hostile to all lifeforms except cats and dogs helps.

So I am writing porn. Standard tentacle rape fantasy pulled straight out of Cave of Obscenity and I think I got the sex part done okay...ish. This is to get me back to writing the 20 plus chapters worth of dumpster fire created by edgelord me one year ago and I do find the same problem then and now. I don't know how to write a proper human interaction.

It is either full of pathetic hostility, or *pui* just full of cursing like "fuck, shit, mother fucking son of a whore shitting shit from both ends" type. There is no refinement, just basic cursing to one's parents or genitals, which worked best in my childhood as I recall.

Then at the other spectrum, I feel the lack of encouragement from the supposed teacher as my MC strives to be the very best.

Any pointers for that? Other than reading more smuts, I understand porns in literotica and storiesonline help, just not as much and I am really struggling to fit smut into my eyeholes with JP works as of now. Confinement King and Saimin Regulation do not count of course.

 

[KoyukiMegumi]

The key to making characters is believable is... hard to pin down. You need to focus on what that person is personally and stick to that personality. Like if he is overbearing. Make sure he stays overbearing, even if he eventually grows out of it. People change is hard. Another thing is portraying emotions correctly.

So let's say MC strives for the very best. What does that mean? Is he the asshole who walks over others or is he the guy who wants to get there by being decent? You have to get to the core of who that person is.

For emotions, you have to understand what that emotion is. *Yes emotions can jump from one moment to the next as events happen this is also normal in reality too.* One moment they may be laughing, yet the next they get devastating news and they can start crying. So this means uh if the character is sad, they can suddenly have urges of anger too. It is normal as long as the situation calls for it.

Lol, you can have a character cursing like crazy. Just make sure he is consistent. That is Key. If for some reason he isn't cursing that will have to be explained. Also, try to not make them 2D but 3D, more sides like he curses, but he has other qualities, either bad or good. Like he curses but in reality, he is a good guy just with no filters.

God, I hope I explained it right. Or if I helped a little bit.

 

[Snusmumriken]

Write as if both parties are MCs. define both of their needs and wants and let them see them through and achieve these. Remember that characters can be flawed and don't know everything or have a bias. But most importantly they usually see themselves as heroes of their own story. And heroes aren't evil at least not in the eyes of heroes themselves.

 

[CupcakeNinja]

The key to making characters is believable is... hard to pin down. You need to focus on what that person is personally and stick to that personality. Like if he is overbearing. Make sure he stays overbearing, even if he eventually grows out of it. People change is hard. Another thing is portraying emotions correctly.

So let's say MC strives for the very best. What does that mean? Is he the asshole who walks over others or is he the guy who wants to get there by being decent? You have to get to the core of who that person is.

For emotions, you have to understand what that emotion is. *Yes emotions can jump from one moment to the next as events happen this is also normal in reality too.* One moment they may be laughing, yet the next they get devastating news and they can start crying. So this means uh if the character is sad, they can suddenly have urges of anger too. It is normal as long as the situation calls for it.

Lol, you can have a character cursing like crazy. Just make sure he is consistent. That is Key. If for some reason he isn't cursing that will have to be explained. Also, try to not make them 2D but 3D, more sides like he curses, but he has other qualities, either bad or good. Like he curses but in reality, he is a good guy just with no filters.

God, I hope I explained it right. Or if I helped a little bit.

yeah, character consistency is important. You have to kNOW your characters to understand how they will react to things, and what they will say. Me, i always build my characters first, then i put them through events. Its easy when you know what they say and do in response to whatever situation i put them in. Without being able to understand your character, your story isn't going to read well.

I need help. HALP.

So way too much xianxia and brainless action CN novels plus a bunch of JP action and KR action has caused me to lack the basic ability to write a normal human interaction. That and I don't have friends, is hostile to all lifeforms except cats and dogs helps.

So I am writing porn. Standard tentacle rape fantasy pulled straight out of Cave of Obscenity and I think I got the sex part done okay...ish. This is to get me back to writing the 20 plus chapters worth of dumpster fire created by edgelord me one year ago and I do find the same problem then and now. I don't know how to write a proper human interaction.

It is either full of pathetic hostility, or *pui* just full of cursing like "fuck, shit, mother fucking son of a whore shitting shit from both ends" type. There is no refinement, just basic cursing to one's parents or genitals, which worked best in my childhood as I recall.

Then at the other spectrum, I feel the lack of encouragement from the supposed teacher as my MC strives to be the very best.

Any pointers for that? Other than reading more smuts, I understand porns in literotica and storiesonline help, just not as much and I am really struggling to fit smut into my eyeholes with JP works as of now. Confinement King and Saimin Regulation do not count of course.

go read some hardcovers, mate. I suggest anything by Brandon Sanderson or Brent Weeks. Both of them are great at world building, character depth and interactions.

Though if you want something simple, just know the topic of the conversation and know your characters. What are your character's thoughts on, say, abortion? Does he or she like sweets? What's their opinion on X or Z? You need to know these things so that you can then form the sentences they will say.

Also, why not good how to write realistic interactions? I'm sure this problem has been answered and given examples.

....Have you tried the Replika app? Its an AI that's really good. Try having a conversation with that if you really want to practice human-like interactions. Its not as good as real human conversation, but its probably easier and more comfortable for you

 

[Armored99]

wirte

 

[KoyukiMegumi]

Write as if both parties are MCs. define both of their needs and wants and let them see them through and achieve these. Remember that characters can be flawed and don't know everything or have a bias. But most importantly they usually see themselves as heroes of their own story. And heroes aren't evil at least not in the eyes of heroes themselves.

Ah, yes, I forgot to say this! Flaws are essential! It is what makes them relatable! Like something they struggle with. Either power, their emotions, something has to make them real! No one likes the perfect human even if it makes them frustrating at times. That is what makes them human! I love to see how people react to my characters. They either are loved or hated.

Everyone is the Hero of their story! Even if they are creeps and cold!

*Important Just because a character is hated doesn't mean that they are bad!!! In fact, having a powerful reaction to a character be hate or love, I consider that win. And everyone will react differently to them. I have had people love one for a moment and hate them the next. This is human nature no one is $100 to be liked.*

 

[NotaNuffian]

wirte

Yeah I just noticed.

 

[Anon_Y_Mousse]

Usually whenever I write a character that lasts more than 3 chapters I make a 1k minimum word backstory even if I'll never actually publish it. Then whenever I write a scene I can 'look back' at that document so I know the interactions make sense for the character (s). Can't help you with smut though, I mean I'm not sure if someone will recite the declaration of independence while being pounded from behind.

 

[RepresentingCaution]

Let it play out in your head a few times before you put it into words.

 

[BlackKnightX]

Watch movies.

 

[JMMatheis]

yeah, character consistency is important. You have to kNOW your characters to understand how they will react to things, and what they will say. Me, i always build my characters first, then i put them through events. Its easy when you know what they say and do in response to whatever situation i put them in. Without being able to understand your character, your story isn't going to read well.

THIS.

I character build, write histories even that involve scenes, events that happened in the past, things that make them tick, and potentially explode.

Last year I did 140,000 (supposed to be approx 5000 word) written as a novel that focused purely on the history and interactions of particular characters.

Now that I am writing my planned story, everything with those characters I fleshed out just falls into place. I know how they will react, and I also have history that I can refer to, things that can be alluded to such as shared understandings, beliefs and attitudes.

I just wrote a part where the reader will swear that the bad blood is gone and settled, only to have the characters tie the other up, blindfold her and dump her in the back of a cart. All due to history that will be teased in the coming chapters.

Work out your characters, what they did outside of your main story. I know for me it makes things so much easier.

 

[gaylolis]

i based my human interactions on how2basic videos, they're pretty helpful tutorials as well.

highly recommended.

 

[RepresentingThree]

Find someone's writing that you enjoy, and take notes. What do they say? How do they say it? What did they choose to describe? Would you choose differently? How does it compare to what you've seen? After you obverse, and question everything; try it yourself. In this case I wouldn't publish what you wrote, as there is a fine line between inspired by, and plagiarized from. Other than that though it works for practice. Note that I am not an author. I just find this pattern works for improving most things.

 

[ElijahRyne]

I need help. HALP.

So way too much xianxia and brainless action CN novels plus a bunch of JP action and KR action has caused me to lack the basic ability to write a normal human interaction. That and I don't have friends, is hostile to all lifeforms except cats and dogs helps.

So I am writing porn. Standard tentacle rape fantasy pulled straight out of Cave of Obscenity and I think I got the sex part done okay...ish. This is to get me back to writing the 20 plus chapters worth of dumpster fire created by edgelord me one year ago and I do find the same problem then and now. I don't know how to write a proper human interaction.

It is either full of pathetic hostility, or *pui* just full of cursing like "fuck, shit, mother fucking son of a whore shitting shit from both ends" type. There is no refinement, just basic cursing to one's parents or genitals, which worked best in my childhood as I recall.

Then at the other spectrum, I feel the lack of encouragement from the supposed teacher as my MC strives to be the very best.

Any pointers for that? Other than reading more smuts, I understand porns in literotica and storiesonline help, just not as much and I am really struggling to fit smut into my eyeholes with JP works as of now. Confinement King and Saimin Regulation do not count of course.

After creating a backstory for your characters, create a list of likes/dislikes for each character. Then go through a bunch of irrelevant what if scenarios with more than 1 character at a time. After doing that you should be familiar with your characters. Then you just wing it.

 

[Jemini]

Write as if both parties are MCs. define both of their needs and wants and let them see them through and achieve these. Remember that characters can be flawed and don't know everything or have a bias. But most importantly they usually see themselves as heroes of their own story. And heroes aren't evil at least not in the eyes of heroes themselves.

This.

Also, when writing porn or erotica of any sort, one of the better starting points is to ask your self what each of the characters participating think about the idea. Then, figure out how the other changes their perspective on that idea as the interaction continues.

This is easiest to envision if one or both are hesitant about the idea, but when you have had some practice with that you begin to realize that this actually still applies even to the enthusiastic interactions.

So, I would say you should practice by writing some interactions where one of them really needs to be talked into it by the other. Keep writing those interactions until you can get it to be really believable. You know you have it when you manage to find that secret desire within the hesitant character, but still keep them seeming uneasy throughout.

After that, you can proceed on to both parties are hesitant. And finally, you move up to both parties are enthusiastic. The second step is actually the most challenging to write period, but the final step of both parties are enthusiastic is the hardest to write while keeping this concept of how the parties change over the encounter in mind. This is why that's the step you want to save for last.

 

[Deleted member 63243]

human interaction, I have this thing where I somewhat act out the dialogue in my head.

It's just a hyperactive imagination thingy, I make the scene they're in and then I pick their eyes to begin my focus with. Then I hit play and the scene starts, it goes through once and then it ends, freeze frame and then repeat with different things focused on, like the setting, the body language, the expressions and more emotive dialogue.

Yeah just really immersive daydreaming video player I guess.

Hope this helps!

 

[Snusmumriken]

I just wrote a part where the reader will swear that the bad blood is gone and settled, only to have the characters tie the other up, blindfold her and dump her in the back of a cart. All due to history that will be teased in the coming chapters.

I am not sure I would agree with that - these things should be teased before not after or at least there should be hints that start to make sense right after the betrayal. You can surprise your audience, but the surprise has to make sense. Curveballs out of the blue prevent the audience from speculating (hard to speculate when you expect another curveball to land anytime) and consecutive explanations would feel weaker in turn as well as they would be received as you trying to make it work after the fact. Exactly because readers didn't know that you planned it in advance.

 

[JMMatheis]

I am not sure I would agree with that - these things should be teased before not after or at least there should be hints that start to make sense right after the betrayal. You can surprise your audience, but the surprise has to make sense. Curveballs out of the blue prevent the audience from speculating (hard to speculate when you expect another curveball to land anytime) and consecutive explanations would feel weaker in turn as well as they would be received as you trying to make it work after the fact. Exactly because readers didn't know that you planned it in advance.

Thanks for catching that!

I did not mention it (I should have, or made it more clear) but I had already established in the story that there was historical bad blood and conflict between the characters. The aspect that I was trying to explain: was for all appearances the conflict may be at a close to the reader. So that when suddenly the (historical) aggressor appears to be making amends (to prove herself), it is not trusted.

In that particular chapter and in the lead up, it is well established that there are issues. But the severity of those issues is what the reader is not aware of. So the act of being ruthless toward her is not expected, but it sets the tone that all hell has broken loose in the past. That a single act does not erase her misdemeanors. It is over the continuing story that you find out just how bad it really is.

The readers already know she is a pain (Just not how much), the actions of being tied up demonstrates to the reader that despite appearances she can't be trusted, and finally the readers slowly find out why she can't be trusted.

 

[Snusmumriken]

Well, you know your story better than anyone. I don't remember who said it but I agree with the notion that it is good when readers can correctly guess your plot. Not in the "oh this is obvious" way but as giving out possible outcomes and correctly nailing with one of them.

That means you gave them enough tools not only to figure it out, but your plot progression is realistic enough for others to arrive at the same conclusions.

 

[KoyukiMegumi]

That means you gave them enough tools not only to figure it out, but your plot progression is realistic enough for others to arrive at the same conclusions.

Do you know what I find amazing about that? That sometimes they say something and it is incredibly close to what I have. Not 100% but let's say 60% there. Sometimes even 80%
It leaves me amazed how many theories and routes a story can have though. Sometimes they come up with something and I am like... Damn, I didn't go that route.