DaelyxLenAuphydas
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Man, before I respond to the meat of your message, I just want to say that I appreciate you taking the time to write up this long and thought out of a response. I've been having a truly awful day and just having someone take the time to critically think about my problem honestly means the world to me. Now, that out of the way...I... don't know that I've ever had this problem, where I simply can't find a solution to a problem in my story. Maybe it's because I write characters first and so their motivations are what drives the plot forward. Maybe I just haven't been writing long enough (I've only been writing seriously for about two years, though my story does have over a quarter million words by now). Maybe it's because my story isn't all that complex plotwise and most of my worldbuilding is built from the same core themes. Probably the last one, honestly.
Okay, I wrote out a whole thing and then before I could hit post you gave me exactly what I was asking for, which was more specificity about what the problem was.
I think in this case you're going to have to sacrifice something to make your story work, which hurts, trust me, I know. But your two concepts directly clash in a way which make so that even if you find a way to reconcile them, it will diminish the impact of both. You can't have magical abilities based on a person's physical traits and then tie the types of magic too closely to their personality and identity at the same time.
If I remember correctly, in MLP they kind of did both, where pegasi and earth ponies had magic based on their race/subspecies, but unicorns' magic was heavily based on their personality/identity. Yes, all unicorns did spells, but most could only do a select few spells, and Twilight Sparkle was a major outlier in that she basically got to do all the spells, but then her talent was literally just magic. (She wasn't exactly normal in a lot of other ways, too, but eh.) You could borrow that concept, where certain races' magic is based on their biology, and others on their personality. MLP also had the ponies have 'surges' of magic as infants, but then they have to learn to fly/do magic properly once they reach their adolescence. I don't see there being much of an issue with your characters only actualizing their magic once they grow into adolescence or even later.
You can fix the issue of only aristocrats having magic by having aristocrats be only certain races, which also lets you do things with racism if you so choose, though I don't know if that would mess up other plot points you have. It also means not all your races get magic, but I don't know if that would be a problem or not.
All things considered, I feel that you're going to have to throw out/heavily rework a lot of the work you've already done if you want your story to be coherent. It's not what you want to hear, I know, but based on what you've told us I think it's your best option. The two concepts you've outlined just clash too heavily for there to be a quick and easy fix. Don't delete what you've already written, though; you may be able to reuse the concepts in new ways later.
Writing surprisingly often necessitates getting rid of your hard work because it just didn't fit for one reason or another. There are successful writers that in order to get one book to a publishable state, they have to write over ten times the amount that eventually ends up being in the finished product. (I think that's closer to the norm than the exception, actually.) Unless you get really good at spotting the potential problems early, you may have to resign yourself to writing a lot of words/stories/plotlines that will never see the light of day. It doesn't mean all that work was useless or a waste of time; rather, it was a part of the process that will eventually get you the story you want to share with the world.
When Tolkien was writing the Lord of the Rings he had a LOT of failed attempts, though that might have been somewhat due to the fact that he wrote by starting from the beginning until he wrote himself into a corner, then he'd start from the beginning again. And again. Eventually however, he did get the finished product that made him universally famous. But how many years of effort do you think he threw out before he got the version of the story that revolutionized an entire genre, the Lord of the Rings that so many know and love?
So first, I agree that something has to be sacrificed. The ideas that I came up with in brainstorming just ended up with weird intersections that I didn't realize until way later. But the problem I'm having is that I have such a convoluted plot and world set up now that I dont really have a firm idea of how to progress with either version, since theres a very major knock-on effect. And I've already cut a lot; the thing is, this is not the first time I've had this kind of problem. Its more like the eighth. Spent months and months on versions that I've cut; pretty sure I've now cut a full novel worth of work.
And I kinda know thats how it is, in fact I consider "writing an entire story then realizing it doesn't work and cutting the whole thing" just an essential part of the writing process. Problem here is just... I dont know how to rework the story. Or what sacrifices I'm okay with making.
Well, I was talking on the fimfiction discord till I had a falling out there the other day, hence why I moved over here. As I said in the bit above; I have had this kind of thing a lot, and also I should say I am not someone capable of writing as fast as most people on these kinds of sites. Some days I can write a few thousand, but far more I write like a hundred words and that's all I got in me. So this kinda thing taking me over a year is not that abnormal for me. I have trouble thinking of things on my own, and believe me I have tried to get other people interested in this project. But its simply not something anyone but me cares about, none of my friends will even interact with me over it really. Plus I was working out all kinds of other issues, and also actually writing a lot of it.Well, having watched many seasons of MLP, I know the world there fairly well. *^^*
It still sounds like, to me anyway, that you should still focus on your original plans. There's no need to re-write a lot if you just stick with what you intended first. Look at it this way, you're not limited to just ONE book here. You could write the first book as you intended, and then write another book that continues the saga. That way, your new ideas can then take center stage.
If I could ask, why did it take you a whole year just to plan everything out...? That's a horrible misuse of your time. You should have talked to me sooner.
Anyways. Moving back to the point; I don't think that anatomical changes being tied in with magic is necessarily the problem. I think that, in isolation, tying characters anatomy to their personality as they grow up would work fine; the problem I started having was the intersection between those anatomical changes and their subrace, which often incorporates things like horns into it. that's really where I start running into major problems.
Now both the 'pony subraces' and 'ponies developing magic as they reach adolescence' are pretty important to the story. The former because it is involved with, well, all of the character designs and the geography I've set up of the world and is honestly just a core part of the concept. And the latter, because its vital to the early plot (Which is based on the aristocracy secretly using magic to drain the commoners magic to ensure that they always end up with magic and the commoners always end up without.)
At any rate these are the options I have yet thought of:
- Some anatomy is just randomly based on magic and some is randomly not and its inconsistent and stupid and I hate it (This would be the 'stick with as it was originally intended' option, as that is how I've been writing it thus far. Its basically just been 'Ponies that develop magic get a unicorn horn, unless they already had horns/antlers then they just use that, and ponies that develop flight get wings.' The reason this is becoming a problem for me is the inconsistency)
- I have to change everything around so that all the pony races other than plains ponies are magic and then completely rewrite characters races to accomodate that
- Decouple magic from anatomy, leading to such stupidity as wingless creatures just flying for some fucking reason
- I remove all the pony races and just have to destroy all my character designs I put so much work into, hyperaustralans are just a culture or something now
- I make horns and wings specifically always be based on magic, so that now hyperaustralans just dont have antlers despite being deer, bicorns cant even be called bicorns or have horns, etc.
- Magic type is linked to race and I have to totally scrap any character whose magic and race arent a one to one fit, that being most of them
- I entirely drop the story being about ponies
- I abandon literally my favorite story I've ever worked on
- I remove pegasi from the story and make magic be exclusively unicorn magic, then make it so they dont need horns to use it
- I tie pony race to magic then HEAVILY abuse hybrids to justify current designs
- Only races with horns develop unicorn magic, then I have to either change Seren/Ceridwen's race or remove magic from Seren.
- Horns or antlers dont cast magic, only unicorn horns specifically work
Thats about where I'm at right now. Uh. I'm sure I neglected to mention a ton of details but its just really hard to even think of every factor in a project this complex tbh.
The thing is, I feel like the uniqueness of both decisions is a significant part of the story's appeal to me. Entirely sacrificing one would feel... Crummy. I think one will definitely end up having to take precedent but I dont want to... Totally lose out on it. Especially with how fond I am of my character designs which I've spent so long on me. Funky looking birdicorns and all.
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