Help me think cuz I am lazy and incompetent

[ArrogantYoungMaster]

This one agrees to not merge all three powers. It's too complicated because mana isn't qi, and including science means you'd need to define what mana and qi are.

Insights:

• Sci-Fi
  • Pick between a machine-augmented-focused society or genetically-engineered-focused one. You can choose both if there are different sci-fi factions.
  • Each can still have technology from the other path, but there can still be ideological differences (is becoming a machine better?)
  • Someone else pointed out that the cultivation world has large numbers. This daoist agrees, but so can the sci-fi world with mass-produced armies.
    • Robotic soldiers for machine-augmented focus
    • Cloned soldiers for genetically-engineered focus
    • A cultivator/magician might be able to replicate this power to an extent of cloning themself, but it likely won't be to the extent of a faction-wide power
• Cultivation
  • There is a lot of people. A lot of them might not be cultivators, but the remaining portion is still a lot.
    • Cultivators are the most long-lived ones, too. Keeping the appearance of a 25 year old and a lifespan of >10,000 years are possible side-effects of practicing cultivation.
  • A cultivator worth his spirit stones can withstand a lot. Asking how many people from Magic or Sci-Fi World can withstand 81 consecutive lightning strikes to the forehead is a good test.
  • Avatars do not have the restrictions of magic and can multiply a cultivator's power, but killing an avatar can injure the cultivator.
    • An exception is something like Sun Wukong's clones. Sun Wukong creates clones with his hair, and he has a lot of hairs (84,000).
  • This is a reminder to limit the power of what the apex cultivator can do, because some stories decide the controller of the heavens can create a chaos storm by farting on a sword. This is not recommended for your novel.
  • This is a reminder to limit the power of what the apex cultivator can do, because some stories decide someone can become Pangu, and it means they can literally split Heaven and Earth. This is not recommended for your novel.
  • This is a reminder to limit the power of what the apex cultivator can do, because some stories decide a strong enough Dao Heart can start warping laws and reality. This is not recommended for your novel.
• Magic
  • Wizards seem very similar to cultivators, with the exceptions that they usually aren't as long-lived and usually never do anything to improve their physique.
  • I would recommend switching (or adding) magic users who draw upon the powers of a deity or patron instead for a bigger difference.
  • Liches and Necromancy are defining differences that can extend a wizard's lifespan and sometimes their power. It would also mean that enemies need to find and destroy the phylactery to truly eliminate a lich, or else they will be a weekly enemy.
  • Some can cast cloning/duplication spells with limitations, but no backlash from death.

 

[ACertainPassingUser]

Keeping the appearance of a 25 year old and a lifespan of >10,000 years are possible side-effects of practicing cultivation.

It's not the side effects, it's the entire purpose of cultivation in first place.

 

[NotaNuffian]

This one agrees to not merge all three powers. It's too complicated because mana isn't qi, and including science means you'd need to define what mana and qi are.

Insights:

• Sci-Fi
  • Pick between a machine-augmented-focused society or genetically-engineered-focused one. You can choose both if there are different sci-fi factions.
  • Each can still have technology from the other path, but there can still be ideological differences (is becoming a machine better?)
  • Someone else pointed out that the cultivation world has large numbers. This daoist agrees, but so can the sci-fi world with mass-produced armies.
    • Robotic soldiers for machine-augmented focus
    • Cloned soldiers for genetically-engineered focus
    • A cultivator/magician might be able to replicate this power to an extent of cloning themself, but it likely won't be to the extent of a faction-wide power
• Cultivation
  • There is a lot of people. A lot of them might not be cultivators, but the remaining portion is still a lot.
    • Cultivators are the most long-lived ones, too. Keeping the appearance of a 25 year old and a lifespan of >10,000 years are possible side-effects of practicing cultivation.
  • A cultivator worth his spirit stones can withstand a lot. Asking how many people from Magic or Sci-Fi World can withstand 81 consecutive lightning strikes to the forehead is a good test.
  • Avatars do not have the restrictions of magic and can multiply a cultivator's power, but killing an avatar can injure the cultivator.
    • An exception is something like Sun Wukong's clones. Sun Wukong creates clones with his hair, and he has a lot of hairs (84,000).
  • This is a reminder to limit the power of what the apex cultivator can do, because some stories decide the controller of the heavens can create a chaos storm by farting on a sword. This is not recommended for your novel.
  • This is a reminder to limit the power of what the apex cultivator can do, because some stories decide someone can become Pangu, and it means they can literally split Heaven and Earth. This is not recommended for your novel.
  • This is a reminder to limit the power of what the apex cultivator can do, because some stories decide a strong enough Dao Heart can start warping laws and reality. This is not recommended for your novel.
• Magic
  • Wizards seem very similar to cultivators, with the exceptions that they usually aren't as long-lived and usually never do anything to improve their physique.
  • I would recommend switching (or adding) magic users who draw upon the powers of a deity or patron instead for a bigger difference.
  • Liches and Necromancy are defining differences that can extend a wizard's lifespan and sometimes their power. It would also mean that enemies need to find and destroy the phylactery to truly eliminate a lich, or else they will be a weekly enemy.
  • Some can cast cloning/duplication spells with limitations, but no backlash from death.

... That is the point of me trying to mash them together.

Just like why nobody had tried to write a boring, whiny MC (cuz those authors are smart and I am a big dumdum), I want to the path or at least, cause a couple of aspiring authors to have the same brain fart as I am.

Yes, mana is not qi, even if most of the works that I saw tried to pull this shit. They will fall into these catagories:
1. Mana is qi as energy is energy. Maybe a different wavelengths of energy but still the same.
2. The Mother of Energies, Source, and fractional distillation of Source into Mana and Qi. (PS this is what I was going for)
3. Mana =/= Qi and they are opposing forces, fighting for dominance.

 

[ArrogantYoungMaster]

... That is the point of me trying to mash them together.

Just like why nobody had tried to write a boring, whiny MC (cuz those authors are smart and I am a big dumdum), I want to the path or at least, cause a couple of aspiring authors to have the same brain fart as I am.

Yes, mana is not qi, even if most of the works that I saw tried to pull this shit. They will fall into these catagories:
1. Mana is qi as energy is energy. Maybe a different wavelengths of energy but still the same.
2. The Mother of Energies, Source, and fractional distillation of Source into Mana and Qi. (PS this is what I was going for)
3. Mana =/= Qi and they are opposing forces, fighting for dominance.

This daoist was speaking about you deciding to not have mage spells casted with qi, magic cultivation, or artificial generation/capturing of qi through a "scientific" process, unless I misunderstood. Why mana is incompatible with cultivation is the differences between the energies, and labeling mana=qi=energy discards all nuance of the systems. Technically, The Essence of Cultivation had wizards and the cultivators use the same energy, the difference was their understanding of the energy's nature and application.

Probably one of the better reasons for the existence of this war is one of the factions had discovered a new energy and sacrificed it to try creating Source (different names for different worlds), and the locals weren't too happy about their own energy source being depleted.

It's not the side effects, it's the entire purpose of cultivation in first place.

Yes

 

[NotaNuffian]

This daoist was speaking about you deciding to not have mage spells casted with qi, magic cultivation, or artificial generation/capturing of qi through a "scientific" process, unless I misunderstood. Why mana is incompatible with cultivation is the differences between the energies, and labeling mana=qi=energy discards all nuance of the systems. Technically, The Essence of Cultivation had wizards and the cultivators use the same energy, the difference was their understanding of the energy's nature and application.

Probably one of the better reasons for the existence of this war is one of the factions had discovered a new energy and sacrificed it to try creating Source (different names for different worlds), and the locals weren't too happy about their own energy source being depleted.


Yes

Yeah. Was planning for a "stay in your lane" rule for everyone, even with the Ditto of superheroes who tried to mix the two energy sources up and will have to stick to one in the end.

Sure, cultivators may try to understand magic and mana while wizards are doing the same with qi, they may learn something from one another but their roots will remain the same.

Meaning no magic for pill eaters and no dao-y goodness for bookworms.

So far I am still stuck with either having the two (three if scifi has own Nether Energy/ Dark Matter) get cancelled from one another, leading to armageddon for the cultures, muddled atmosphere where they share the same space and hate each other or go for uwu good end where they interbreed to form a new culture.

My money is NOT on the last one.