Halving Chapters for Word Count

BenJepheneT

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I mean too short also isn't good either.
The poll in this forum says most prefer between 1000 and 3000
I've seen chapters with 200 words and be like "what's the fucking point"
 

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I used to write 1k word per chapter and I got complaints about it. Upped it to 2k and I still got people saying it should be 3k. So I went 3k and I've stayed there ever since.
 

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@binarysoap and @XianPiete,

Wow, that thread is just... a trainwreck. It took me several hours to actually read through, and yes, I do believe any discussion of fairness in any field ever is bound to start seeming personal. No such thing as fair discussion of fairness, however ironic that may be.

I'm sorry you had to go through that. I would have also been pretty depressed after that, even with all the good intentions other people might have had in mind. Glad you're continuing writing.

AkalE said:
Delete the book and start from scratch...

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Don't listen to my advice!

Well, I'm not that much of an M yet +_+.

Bugi said:
Wait... Do you mean, readers here prefers shorter chapters than long ones?
(´⊙ω⊙`)!

I was also in shock when I found out! :blob_hmm_two: Yet at the same time -- knowing some obvious things beforehand and actually experiencing them are quite a different thing. I never expected myself to not be able to put two and two together like this, but... here we go ^^. Hence the existence of this thread.
 

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I used to write 1k word per chapter and I got complaints about it. Upped it to 2k and I still got people saying it should be 3k. So I went 3k and I've stayed there ever since.

Just because I'm curious (and a bit of a noob) -- complaints inside your chapters? Also, I'm afraid that my 4-5k long chapters cannot possibly be cut into anything other than 2-2,5k chunks. Math, damn it. I'll see if it's annoying in my novel, though.

Wish me luck. ^^
 

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Just because I'm curious (and a bit of a noob) -- complaints inside your chapters? Also, I'm afraid that my 4-5k long chapters cannot possibly be cut into anything other than 2-2,5k chunks. Math, damn it. I'll see if it's annoying in my novel, though.

Wish me luck. ^^

No, on other stories I wrote in the past.
 

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I think it all depends on the style of your story and how regularly you update it. Some people prefer longer chapters and others prefer shorter ones. You can't please everyone so you might as well make a chapter long enough to cover what you want it to and leave it at that. I'm not saying make a 600-word chapter here and a 9k chapter there but if your chapters aren't long enough to cover what needs to be said or are long just for the sake of reaching a count then what's the point?
 

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@Darkwood,

??? Ohhh, I would wish to exchange tips with you then! I would gladly stop writing such intense long-ass word counts! I always had this problem, and before, in my previous writing workshop when I came over with my chapter lengths of 30k words, people were like... "Dude. NO." I was so proud when I finally learned to write 5k words chapters, and then later when they became 4-5k words chapters -)). Now I am slowly adapting to an even shorter length...

In case you need pointers for long chapter lengths, what always made it so hard for me to write shorter was adherence to themes. I am a sucker for thematic storytelling and when a chapter corresponds to a full exploration of a given theme rather than plot or character. That way, I kind of stop only when I feel I have nothing else to add to a discussion that the chapter "promises".

For example, one such 30k chapter from a novel of several years ago was about a revolution in a very tight, gradually constricting city (its walls were literally squeezing narrower and narrower around my characters as they tried to escape to the outside while the city was burning and fights and police violence were erupting everywhere). So I just wrote several fight scenes and several horror-scenes and the plans these characters made on how to escape it all -- and I never stopped writing that "chapter" until the entirety of this whole episode was over.

Later I realized that I can call it an "arc" instead and artificially divide every fight scene into its own small chapter. But it took me a lot of time to learn to separate those. I had no idea about what arcs even were before I started reading manga. So I feel like many people who write longer chapters don't know well what constitutes a good cutting point to a scene or an episode. And we don't want the chapter to feel like a filler, so we write and write and write until it feels truly complete. But by that point, it's a word monster -- not a chapter +_+.

Just to share how frustrating this can be for us, long-chapter-writing people -). Even my posts are long-winded. See? It's a diseeease.
I have a few problems with expressing what I can say verbally in written form. So I could talk for days on a given topic but writing is a different matter. <-- This sentence proves itself.
As for separating things, the way I do it is to write a given scene as a chapter. If it ends up being a short scene then I can add another one to make a full chapter. Or conversely I can spread one scene out over a few chapters. I am only 60 chapters into writing my first novel properly so I cant really tell if I write in arcs like that, I don't plan what I write at all, if I did I would have to throw out my plans the instant an idea came to mind when writing a chapter. They tend to send me off in a completely different direction. I very much agree with Orson Scott Card on this one, if i tried to plan chapter 2 before writing chapter 1 I would have to redo it after writing chapter 1.
 
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