Fantasy Vs Sci-fi

[MakBow]

What are your thoughts on Fantasy vs Sci-fi?
Not in the sense of which is better, but rather, a story of where both of these elements are present.

Like I have an idea in the back of my head that I intend to keep pocketed until I finish my novel where in a war, on a Dark Fantasy (Grounded Fantasy) Earth with the typical fantasy creatures any everything, aliens for space crash onto Earth, trying to take it over. But they aren't the typical, high advanced aliens, but aliens being a mix between the Death Angels from A Quite Place and Xenomorphs, that came to Earth by riding meteorites.

Would that be a very interesting story (Won't be written for a long time though)

If you know any novels that follow this premise or at least somewhat have something similar to it, link some for me to read.

Additional Notes:
The kingdoms see technology as there as taboo and a disgrace to the gods, an acceptance of the rejection of the gods who have helped them so far.
The aliens on the other hand are very smart and fast hunters, capable to hearing long distances, covered in an exoskeleton, with scythes for arms, and a hivemind radius, where if one knows something, any other alien around that one will know the same thing.
So, in the story, their biology will be studies.

In the world, the gods have sent Valkyries to Earth, supernatural, near country-leveling weapons with human form that can be used by humans, but these weapons have VERY strict soul contracts and preferences, so they are damn near most of the time unusable

In the world, the 'Demon King' was already defeated and the Demons QUOTE, UNQUOTE, were all imprisoned and enslaved, forced to fight on the front lines
(Demons are actually just genetically modified humans through magic to advance the body. A taboo against the kingdom's teachings of being pure as a human both spiritually and physically and using the god's blessing (magic) to change your body is heresy.)
The story could explore discrimination as well

 

[Tsathro]

That sounds something that will be soo much fun...
Thankyou..
That's also a great suggestion for when I complete my SAIUN series.
Though it will continue for a long time.

 

[Eldoria]

What are your thoughts on Fantasy vs Sci-fi?

Sci-fi = futuristic technological fantasy. Sci-fi is built on the basic assumption of 'imaginative' technology that surpasses the present. Anything imaginative, not realistic, is fantasy.

 

[MakBow]

Sci-fi = futuristic technological fantasy. Sci-fi is built on the basic assumption of 'imaginative' technology that surpasses the present. Anything imaginative, not realistic, is fantasy.

But it says that a quiet place is sci-fi and there's no advanced spaceships. I think it's far broader than just futuristic technology. And it terms of the fantasy point, it can still be grounded in real science when it comes to magic, like Full Metal Alchemist to some extent with its magic system.

 

[Eldoria]

But it says that a quiet place is sci-fi and there's no advanced spaceships. I think it's far broader than just futuristic technology. And it terms of the fantasy point, it can still be grounded in real science when it comes to magic, like Full Metal Alchemist to some extent with its magic system.

Well, you could argue that. But, as far as the sci-fi fiction I've read goes, it's generally more speculative and imaginative than scientific.

Let's take a simple example: warp dive technology. Sci-fi fiction often depicts space travel as possible with this technology. However, it's more imaginative. In theory, it would take the energy equivalent of one Jupiter to create a spaceship with warp dive.

Science fiction narratives ignore this scientific theory, simply simplifying it with a spaceship using warp dive technology to travel between planets, stars, and even galaxies.

It's rare for sci-fi to strive for scientific rigor, like Interstellar.

Narratively, teleportation gates make more sense than warp dive. At least teleportation gates utilize the internal logic of a fantasy world without trying to appear scientific.

 

[MakBow]

Well, you could argue that. But, as far as the sci-fi fiction I've read goes, it's generally more speculative and imaginative than scientific.

Let's take a simple example: warp dive technology. Sci-fi fiction often depicts space travel as possible with this technology. However, it's more imaginative. In theory, it would take the energy equivalent of one Jupiter to create a spaceship with warp dive.

Science fiction narratives ignore this scientific theory, simply simplifying it with a spaceship using warp dive technology to travel between planets, stars, and even galaxies.

It's rare for sci-fi to strive for scientific rigor, like Interstellar.

Narratively, teleportation gates make more sense than warp dive. At least teleportation gates utilize the internal logic of a fantasy world without trying to appear scientific.

Science fiction often ignores, not always. I have read some where they do explain it using real theories presented in real life (Don't remember their names though).

But yeah, you are right.
The aliens themselves are incredibly advanced in technology and biology, I mean, they're riding freaking meteors to get to Earth, (Giant rocks getting slingshot to Earth) and the boss monsters (big ones) are more technological advanced with far greater weapons.

Yeah, but in the story prompt, they are opposing each other, not helping each other.

The kingdoms see technology as there as taboo and a disgrace to the gods, an acceptance of the rejection of the gods who have helped them so far.

The aliens on the other hand are very smart and fast hunters, capable to hearing long distances, covered in an exoskeleton, with scythes for arms, and a hivemind radius, where if one knows something, any other alien around that one will know the same thing.

So, in the story, their biology will be studies.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

I got into superheroes because they combined fantasy and science fiction - Superman, The Spectre, Thor, Spider-Man etc. Years later, I also found out they incorporated (even created to some degree) mythology, my other fascination.

 

[Arkus86]

Star Wars is a mix of fantasy and sci-fi. To a varying degree, so is much of the superhero genre. There was also this one webnovel I read (Crossing to the Future, it’s Not Easy to Be a Man) that mixed cultivation with mechas, but it had the typical Chinese cultivation WN issues.

Gate and other novels similar to it have a concept like what you describe, even if they don't deal with sci-fi directly - an advanced tech-based civilization meeting a magic-based, but technologically inferior one.

 

[Paul__Michaels]

That is tough. Because I do love Sci-fi, but I tend to like to have a blend of fantasy in my Sci-fi, aka Star Wars. But I also like bringing in Sci-fi elementary to a High Fantasy world as well. Because then you can be flexible with the rules of the world, while bringing in familiar elements of a scientific world to disrupt or ground a rule that had been set. It's a fun tug-of-war for world-building.

And if it is straight Sci-fi then I feel it's better to have elements of good technical and scientific understanding of space, engineering, mathematics. But at the same time I don't want it to be at such a academic level that it goes over my head. It's a tough balancing act.

I think that's why I tend to write fantasy.

 

[MakBow]

Like I have an idea in the back of my head that I intend to keep pocketed until I finish my novel where in a war, on a Dark Fantasy (Grounded Fantasy) Earth with the typical fantasy creatures any everything, aliens from space crash onto Earth, trying to take it over. But they aren't the typical, high advanced aliens, but aliens being a mix between the Death Angels from A Quite Place and Xenomorphs, that came to Earth by riding meteorites.

It could follow my MC, who is a carrier for the actual warriors and serving as the bait, forced to throw his life away constantly as with magic, he gets revived and mutilated, over and over. (Some of that Re: Zero treatment)

Would that be a very interesting story? (Won't be written for a long time though)

Additional Notes:
The kingdoms see technology as there as taboo and a disgrace to the gods, an acceptance of the rejection of the gods who have helped them so far.

The aliens on the other hand are very smart and fast hunters, capable to hearing long distances, covered in an exoskeleton, with scythes for arms, and a hivemind radius, where if one knows something, any other alien around that one will know the same thing.

So, in the story, their biology will be studies.

In the world, the gods have sent Valkyries to Earth, supernatural, near country-leveling weapons with human form that can be used by humans, but these weapons have VERY strict soul contracts and preferences, so they are damn near most of the time unusable.

In the world, the 'Demon King' was already defeated and the Demons QUOTE, UNQUOTE, were all imprisoned and enslaved, forced to fight on the front lines

(Demons are actually just genetically modified humans through magic to advance the body. A taboo against the kingdom's teachings of being pure as a human both spiritually and physically and using the god's blessing (magic) to change your body is heresy.)

The story could explore discrimination as well. (Won't be written for a long time)

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[LesserSarcasm]

As long as it isnt a about a hero/assassin party ending the war there is enough of them already

 

[CharlesEBrown]

Star Wars is a mix of fantasy and sci-fi. To a varying degree, so is much of the superhero genre. There was also this one webnovel I read (Crossing to the Future, it’s Not Easy to Be a Man) that mixed cultivation with mechas, but it had the typical Chinese cultivation WN issues.

Gate and other novels similar to it have a concept like what you describe, even if they don't deal with sci-fi directly - an advanced tech-based civilization meeting a magic-based, but technologically inferior one.

There's a series of books, the Talen Cycle, that began as Manga (My Vampire System) but the novel forms began with, IIRC, Level Up Zombie, then My Werewolf System (and the actual genesis of the series is supposedly the last "leg" written, which I think ended about a year ago, My Dragon System) that uses sci fi to "fake" fantasy elements (including werewolves, vampires and demons).

 

[Cipiteca396]

but aliens being a mix between the Death Angels from A Quite Place and Xenomorphs, that came to Earth by riding meteorites.

It could follow my MC, who is a carrier for the actual warriors and serving as the bait,

So like Venom rather than xenomorphs? Or what do you mean by carrier?

The aliens on the other hand are very smart and fast hunters, capable to hearing long distances, covered in an exoskeleton, with scythes for arms, and a hivemind radius, where if one knows something, any other alien around that one will know the same thing.

Oh, Tyranids.

In the world, the 'Demon King' was already defeated and the Demons QUOTE, UNQUOTE, were all imprisoned and enslaved, forced to fight on the front lines

(Demons are actually just genetically modified humans through magic to advance the body. A taboo against the kingdom's teachings of being pure as a human both spiritually and physically and using the god's blessing (magic) to change your body is heresy.)

The story could explore discrimination as well. (Won't be written for a long time)

Oh, Cross Ange.

Would that be a very interesting story? (Won't be written for a long time though)

Sounds like a big project, but it could work if it's well written.