Ethical Question

ZukoMee

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Meanwhile, if a dude is trying to rob you, you're gonna know he's trying to rob you.
I could REALLY destroy this argument, and I mean REALLY, but I'm not sure if I should bother. I grew up in Brooklyn, NYC, and muggings are a dime a dozen. Quite often, you know the guy mugging you, or one of his relatives, which is why muggers have short careers in my old stomping grounds.

I was mugged by a close friend of my cousin when I was 12, and I had been playing basketball with him a week or so before. Seemed cool. Thought we were buds.
 

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I could REALLY destroy this argument, and I mean REALLY, but I'm not sure if I should bother. I grew up in Brooklyn, NYC, and muggings are a dime a dozen. Quite often, you know the guy mugging you, or one of his relatives, which is why career muggers have short careers my old stomping grounds.
Yeah I realized that. Still, I'd bet teens and young adults are especially vulnerable to those situations as well.
 

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I could REALLY destroy this argument, and I mean REALLY, but I'm not sure if I should bother. I grew up in Brooklyn, NYC, and muggings are a dime a dozen. Quite often, you know the guy mugging you, or one of his relatives, which is why muggers have short careers in my old stomping grounds.

I was mugged by a close friend of my cousin when I was 12, and I had been playing basketball with him a week before. Seemed cool. Thought we were buds.
Still, a black dude, while maybe more statistically likely to engage in such acts, doesn't have an actual advantage when committing the act itself. An older individual however, has an inherent power advantage over the younger, they have stability, money, transportation, seniority, often housing. That kind of power imbalance is easy to abuse, even accidentally. Not even malice. That type of power imbalance is also far less likely with someone of your own age. A minor power imbalance isn't the end of the world, but the larger the imbalance, the easier it is to abuse, even accidentally.
They make up most of the muggers. The victims are more likely to be of similar age or older.
Ok. Neat to know.
 

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doesn't have an actual advantage when committing the act itself.
Usually, they already have their gun drawn while the victim doesn't. And in NY, its one of the states whose gun laws are retarded and essentially reward the criminals and punish legal owners. It's extremely hard to own a handgun LEGALLY. But crooks? Lol it's super easy to get one. So, I can't agree here either.

However, I will concede that in other states that have better gun laws and less restrictions, my argument here falls flat.
 

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Usually, they already have their gun drawn while the victim doesn't. And in NY, its one of the states whose gun laws are retarded and essentially reward the criminals and punish legal owners. It's extremely hard to own a handgun LEGALLY. But crooks? Lol it's super easy to get one. So, I won't be agreeing here either.
I said, he doesn't have an inherent advantage, by being black.
 

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by being black
Ah. I missed that. Was too gung-ho. Apologies.

Either way, I will concede that in other states that have better gun laws and less restrictions, my argument here falls flat. I've lived in North Carolina and Oklahoma, and both states, muggers would not be as much of a problem since I wouldn't be essentially penalized for legal gun ownership. Open-carry in Oklahoma and concealed carry in North Carolina.

Just realized I de-railed the hell out of the topic. Didn't intend to.
 

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Just realized I de-railed the hell out of the topic. Didn't intend to.
Eh, it was a joint effort. I only just started on the forums and it's happened twice to me, so *shrug*
 
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As far as I know, a lot of the objections come from power dynamics: that a big age gap between the partners leads to an uneven relationship. Unequal. The older person may exploit the vulnerabilities and manipulate the younger person—more so if they are a minor. It could be unconscious.

Suffice to say, not everyone is like this, but undoubtedly the power tends to favor the older person (generally).
 

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Romance between an undead and a young adult.

Had ethical questions been raised about it? Sure, "Twilight" and "Buffy" can be romantic, whatever, but would you consider the idea of a 200-year-old person stalking a 16-year-old girl romantic?

Or age doesn’t matter as long as the undead is hot?

This is for um…research.
No, it's nasty and it may be predatory.

It is centuries old person lusting after someone who can't make rational decisions.

That makes old person lonely and pathetic at best, or someone that feels like they need to have fine control those they 'love'.

If it were a grown woman who this undead was going after it would more gothically romantic, but with a young teenager it makes it borderline pedophilic.
 

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it's invasive, unromantic, and just gross before you even consider the morals of a pairing between a teenager and a multiple-century old undead creature
 

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From reading the comments further, I have come to the conclusion people underestimate how much being 'Hot' matters.
Granted, I am not sure from which PoV the OP would create such a story, but back when I was in my teens...

Yes. I, and most everyone I knew would have at least enjoyed the idea of dating an older, mysterious supernational being, who is rich, hot and has a way with its words.
Us against society? Two lovers fighting against the world?
Tell me, does that sound romantic?

Sure. Looking at it with adult mind and sensibilities there is a lot of wrong with the notion.
But claiming it is in no way romantic and is impossible to be so is not logical for me.
 

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From reading the comments further, I have come to the conclusion people underestimate how much being 'Hot' matters.
Granted, I am not sure from which PoV the OP would create such a story, but back when I was in my teens...

Yes. I, and most everyone I knew would have at least enjoyed the idea of dating an older, mysterious supernational being, who is rich, hot and has a way with its words.
Us against society? Two lovers fighting against the world?
Tell me, does that sound romantic?

Sure. Looking at it with adult mind and sensibilities there is a lot of wrong with the notion.
But claiming it is in no way romantic and is impossible to be so is not logical for me.
There is a reason it's a popular trope with teen and young adult women/girls. Twilight isn't the only big franchise that did it and was widely popular.
 
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