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I didn't say that I didn't read it, I have, I still don't know what this thread is about.
 
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I didn't say that I didn't read it, I have, I still don't know what this thread is about.
Do you do Method Writing? Do you put yourself in the shoes of your characters, and expounding on that, do you get a moment where you are so in-tune with the character that you feel their emotions?
 

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I didn't say that I didn't read it, I have, I still don't know what this thread is about.
It was originally focused on whether or not you resonated with your character(s) while writing your story(ies), pretty much. Like did writing your story cause you to feel some type of emotion. For example; rage when they get angry at something, or maybe you cried/felt sadness when they lost a party/family member.
 

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It was originally focused on whether or not you resonated with your character(s) while writing your story(ies), pretty much. Like did writing your story cause you to feel some type of emotion. For example; rage when they get angry at something, or maybe you cried/felt sadness when they lost a party/family member.
Do you do Method Writing? Do you put yourself in the shoes of your characters, and expounding on that, do you get a moment where you are so in-tune with the character that you feel their emotions?
I would argue it is this but FAR more extreme and involves more personality being affected by your writing as well. Not a bad gist though.
 
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Can I just vent here?
Webnovel (the app) is stupid. They think the protagonist has to do everything perfectly without flaws.
Or they use the mentality of "I wouldn't do that" and drop the novel.
I swear to God teenagers are the bane of society
That is not just limited to Webnovel. People do that here too, and it is not just teenagers. I actually found a lot of people around my age that also think the same.
 

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Well, to give a serious answer, I'm always imagining what things feel like from every character's perspective, both when writing and when reading, but never to the point of actually feeling their emotions. I do feel emotions in response to thinking about theirs if that makes sense.

And when I say every character, I even mean random nameless people that we don't even see. Obviously, main characters have more focus as I know them better, but I tend to think about how every single nameless background NPC has their own perspective that would be just as complex if I actually bothered to write them. It might feel meaningless since I'm not actually thinking up complex personalities for every single one of them, but I feel like that mindset makes it easier to make it at least appear like that depth exists in the few times that the main characters interact with them, to make it feel like they have their own individuality, I really hate how so many stories make groups of people into amorphous blobs and I want to at least try to avoid that.

I don't know if what I'm saying makes sense, I think I went a bit off-topic.
 

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Have you guys ever felt true enlightenment during writing?
No. And I doubt you have either. You may have had enlightenment of a sort, but I doubt it was true.

Enlightenment usually comes from some sort of breakthrough. Where you have a deeply held belief and finally come to the conclusion that you were wrong, and more importantly, why. That's enlightenment. When you discover a new truth. True enlightenment, well, that's subjective, and I doubt you've had it.

True enlightenment wouldn't be personal but include a world-changing truth for the world. For example, E=MC2. That's a good example.

It feels like you have truly combined with a character and see the world truly as it truly is through their eyes. There is a sense of ecstasy as you do it.
That... could be interesting, but ecstasy? That much dopamine isn't good. It can lead to some bad outcomes. Learn some unhelpful habits.

To give an example of what I mean by true enlightenment, one night, really struggling with the first chapter of one of my side stories, I just was not connecting with the main character. Then boom! I made an understanding with my MC, falling into their madness. Just imagine a kid rocking back and forth, absolutely off their rocker as they chilled within the characters' demented mind and world. Tongue lolling out and incessantly biting and scratching myself, I had fully submerged myself within the character. Dazed and heady with the rush of their insanity... it was beautiful! The words flowed onto the digital page, and the creativity was beyond just getting in the flow.
So... you experienced a disassociative fugue state.

Admittedly, it had a detrimental impact on my mental health for almost two weeks after because of the character it was with. My inclinations for self-harm far increased. My arms don't look as good as they used to. Oh well!
Now, see, this is where we get into the 'Perhaps you might want to up your dosage' territory.

Enlightenment is one of my favorite things regardless!
This seems more like being bipolar where you enter a manic state, then fall into depression and self-harm. That ain't good. That's more like... 'Seek professional help and reach out to someone near to you that you trust and explain your thoughts then accept their advice even if it isn't something you want to hear' territory.

You guys experience it?
As you describe it? No. No, I have not.

I have experienced a lot of death. Both personal, from friends, family, and pets, and professional, through my various jobs. It feels great when I get to cheat death, yank one more life from his boney clutches. It's personal. I hate death. I fight him CONSTANTLY. And in the end, I will lose. Hardly a reason to give up, in my opinion, just because it's hopeless.

I'm bringing that up because I've got a LOT of experience with death and you are flirting with him, right now. I'd rather like it if you took a step back and talked to some people who you trust, tell them everything you have said here, and then take their advice, even if the advice runs contrary to what you believe.

We all need to get a head check now and again. Just pick someone and say, "Hey, this is where my head is at. Am I doing okay?" It's hard to see if you have a problem from the inside of your head.
You have been summoned. *Flies away on a broom*
I'm on it.
 

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No. And I doubt you have either. You may have had enlightenment of a sort, but I doubt it was true.

Enlightenment usually comes from some sort of breakthrough. Where you have a deeply held belief and finally come to the conclusion that you were wrong, and more importantly, why. That's enlightenment. When you discover a new truth. True enlightenment, well, that's subjective, and I doubt you've had it.

True enlightenment wouldn't be personal but include a world-changing truth for the world. For example, E=MC2. That's a good example.
Excuse me? Are you seriously gatekeeping on what enlightenment entails? I wholly disagree with how you view enlightenment and find it incredibly frustrating that you would say disagree with it when you didn't feel it, nor did you have enough information to know whether it checked the boxes of an enlightenment. True enlightenment is, to me, simply enlightenment that isn't someone spitting lies out trying to pretend they had one.
So... you experienced a disassociative fugue state.

Now, see, this is where we get into the 'Perhaps you might want to up your dosage' territory.

This seems more like being bipolar where you enter a manic state, then fall into depression and self-harm. That ain't good. That's more like... 'Seek professional help and reach out to someone near to you that you trust and explain your thoughts then accept their advice even if it isn't something you want to hear' territory.

I have experienced a lot of death. Both personal, from friends, family, and pets, and professional, through my various jobs. It feels great when I get to cheat death, yank one more life from his boney clutches. It's personal. I hate death. I fight him CONSTANTLY. And in the end, I will lose. Hardly a reason to give up, in my opinion, just because it's hopeless.

I'm bringing that up because I've got a LOT of experience with death and you are flirting with him, right now. I'd rather like it if you took a step back and talked to some people who you trust, tell them everything you have said here, and then take their advice, even if the advice runs contrary to what you believe.

We all need to get a head check now and again. Just pick someone and say, "Hey, this is where my head is at. Am I doing okay?" It's hard to see if you have a problem from the inside of your head.
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Ah. Back off. FUCK off. You're going too far, TheEldritchGod.
I apologize for stressing you out enough that you feel the need to... write all of this. I'll zip my lips for the future. I have no intention of taking anyone's help and appear to be causing undue stress to you all.
My apologies.
Do not bring this up again, nor any who read this comment.
This was, uh, my mistake. I never do seem to learn.
 
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