Dwarves as the Antagonists?

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Dwarves.

Always the brash, blunt, and bullheaded, but somewhat good-hearted companion.

It's as if it has been established as a multi fictional canon that dwarves are always siding with the protagonists, or are good guys in general even if they don't.

And I think this somewhat limits their potential.

The only story I read where they were bad guys was "Stubborn Skill-Grinder in a Time-loop," but because that was a power fantasy with the MC facing continuously stronger opponents, their existence was barely brush over.

Give me racist dwarves, and I don't just mean "Oh, we hate the long-eared folks" racist."

Dwarven Supremacists!

Folks who look down on humans and their stunted technological growth!

They could even just be unkempt, underground cave recluses, who obsess over precious metals like leprechauns for gold. This particular one was utilized in a genderbender story on NU, though I've forgotten which one.

For the story I'm planning, the dwarves will definitely be bloodthirsty expansionists who always seek conflict if only to test out their magitech.

Why do you think dwarves have been mostly established as good guys in most media?

Do you know any one you can recommend where they're actually the bad guys? Or there's at least a unique take on them, as long as it's not just simply, ale-loving, blacksmithing folk.

Thanks!
 

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The Elder Scrolls.
Thanks, knew of the Elder Scrolls, but never really knew beyond the fact that it was a game. Is there like a book series for it? The Dwemer seem interesting.
 

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Dwarves.

Always the brash, blunt, and bullheaded, but somewhat good-hearted companion.

It's as if it has been established as a multi fictional canon that dwarves are always siding with the protagonists, or are good guys in general even if they don't.

And I think this somewhat limits their potential.

The only story I read where they were bad guys was "Stubborn Skill-Grinder in a Time-loop," but because that was a power fantasy with the MC facing continuously stronger opponents, their existence was barely brush over.

Give me racist dwarves, and I don't just mean "Oh, we hate the long-eared folks" racist."

Dwarven Supremacists!

Folks who look down on humans and their stunted technological growth!

They could even just be unkempt, underground cave recluses, who obsess over precious metals like leprechauns for gold. This particular one was utilized in a genderbender story on NU, though I've forgotten which one.

For the story I'm planning, the dwarves will definitely be bloodthirsty expansionists who always seek conflict if only to test out their magitech.

Why do you think dwarves have been mostly established as good guys in most media?

Do you know any one you can recommend where they're actually the bad guys? Or there's at least a unique take on them, as long as it's not just simply, ale-loving, blacksmithing folk.

Thanks!
I've always hated dwarves. Elf supremecy.

But hm... I haven't seen any, no. I think I've seen one where they turn into stone when sunlight hits em, but I don't remember the title.
 

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Thanks, knew of the Elder Scrolls, but never really knew beyond the fact that it was a game. Is there like a book series for it? The Dwemer seem interesting.
extinct species. either deleted by humans, and went missing is all i know
I've always hated dwarves. Elf supremecy.

But hm... I haven't seen any, no. I think I've seen one where they turn into stone when sunlight hits em, but I don't remember the title.
dwarf vampires? that's race bender content right there
 

Justhetip...

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I've always hated dwarves. Elf supremecy.

But hm... I haven't seen any, no. I think I've seen one where they turn into stone when sunlight hits em, but I don't remember the title.
Oho? Would you look at what we have here?
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PS: If the elves are canonically taller than humans, then Elven Supremacy for the win.
 

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Doesn't matter. Even the smaller elves are cute. Dwarves... tch. Except for the Dvergar version, and even then I prefer the Alf.
Whoa, Cool creation story the dvergar got.

And no, if it ain't tall, it ain't an elf, burn it on a stake.?
 

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Whoa, Cool creation story the dvergar got.

And no, if it ain't tall, it ain't an elf, burn it on a stake.?
Exactlyyyyy. Cool creation story right there. Not just simple ale-loving, blacksmithing folk.

But I agree. Elves should be taller than humans, at least. Short elves? What short elves?

Fires blowtorch and smiles innocently.
 
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I love ES lore. It's unique in terms of Fantasy while also being similar enough that you find things you liked about certain races. The fact that there are different human ones like Nord, Breton, Imperial, and Redguard was enough to motivate me to make things like that. In one of my stories I created a redguardish race.
 
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