Difference of the Chinese and Korean Cultivation

[JDC_OnPaper]

As the Title asks, I am asking what is the Difference between the Chinese and Korean Cultivation Novels. I was planning on writing one of the two, to start I started reading some Cultivation stories, to which, most were predominantly Chinese. Now, I'm asking those who write Cultivation Novels:

Do you research their Culture, Dress and Whatnot?
Is the Murim World the same for all Cultivation Novels?
Did you ever considering using Korean or Chinese when naming stuff?
Did you ever try using Western naming on a cultivation story?
Any tips?

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Here's a tip. You should decide what genre you want to write, Wuxia, Xianxia, or Xuanhuan.

 

[Deleted member 19066]

As the Title asks, I am asking what is the Difference between the Chinese and Korean Cultivation Novels. I was planning on writing one of the two, to start I started reading some Cultivation stories, to which, most were predominantly Chinese. Now, I'm asking those who write Cultivation Novels:

Do you research their Culture, Dress and Whatnot?
Is the Murim World the same for all Cultivation Novels?
Did you ever considering using Korean or Chinese when naming stuff?
Did you ever try using Western naming on a cultivation story?
Any tips?

Hmm? I thought kn lean more to wuxia and Xuanhuan, but not a lot of xianxia .

Can you give me an example of Korean xianxia?
I too would like to compare.

 

[Corty]

As someone who did a cultivation-based story, here is what I did:

• Make up my own cultivation system. I am not Chinese nor Korean; I don't have a deep knowledge of their culture and meanings behind elements, numbers (which is very important) nor feng shui, or the rest of these things. So I didn't even try and copy the usual cultivation systems as I only have surface-level insight, even with Google's help. I took the core gist of improving yourself and ran with it.
• Murim and the rest are rooted in their cultural history. Without studying it, you could easily make mistakes that would be points of criticism. To avoid that, I created my own realm. My type of world, my rules; that way, there was no chance of being caught up in a badly written and distorted culture and mistakenly described points of tradition. I could still borrow things and morph them to my liking without problems.
• I would not name anything Chinese or Korean. Names have meaning behind them, and imitating them wrongly is just asking for a disaster. I came up with my own names.
• I used western or westernized eastern names and also made up ones.

My main tip would be:

If you are inspired by eastern fantasy, that is good. Take the core elements of what makes a cultivation novel and tailor it to your own.

Edit: also, Korean novels are usually tied to gaming elements. Levels, xp, skills, etc. So do a litrpg then.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Hmm? I thought kn lean more to wuxia and Xuanhuan, but not a lot of xianxia .

Can you give me an example of Korean xianxia?
I too would like to compare.

There are Korean Xuanhuan novels? Can you show an example?

 

[UnknownSaint171]

As the Title asks, I am asking what is the Difference between the Chinese and Korean Cultivation Novels. I was planning on writing one of the two, to start I started reading some Cultivation stories, to which, most were predominantly Chinese. Now, I'm asking those who write Cultivation Novels:

Do you research their Culture, Dress and Whatnot?
Is the Murim World the same for all Cultivation Novels?
Did you ever considering using Korean or Chinese when naming stuff?
Did you ever try using Western naming on a cultivation story?
Any tips?

I had to deep research on this subject.
Chinese Cultivation novels(Xianxia, Xuanhuan) are too different from Murim novels. If I had to say Murim novels are better versions of Wuxias but modern elements incorporated into the story. I've read a lot Murim novels, but it can be based on Longevity but not Immortality. Murim is only limited to south korea martial arts sadly. Have yet seen a KR Author write it outside the scope, plus the magical beasts aren't as high as Chinese Novels.

I've wanted to write a KR as well but the names are too difficult to remember.
Most WN writers use English Names which I don't like in Cultivation Novels.(I would use Chinese names, who will find out anyways? But your right it'll be a disaster if they're found out. Why not use name generator then? I don't know.) From what i've seen Chinese Writers don't care what they name their characters sometimes but it is true it has to reflect their character/personality but most aren't as meticulous as Emperor Domination Author)
I do believe western cultivation exists but most are badly written or just ignored!

 

[Deleted member 19066]

There are Korean Xuanhuan novels? Can you show an example?

Sorry i meant qihuan (奇幻, "strange fantasy" or "exotic fantasy") rather than xuanhuan (玄幻, "mysterious fantasy")

Like..

...
.

Damn it making me rummage thru my "nope" reading list.

Funky mix of banana and marital art but not quiet wuxia
E.g

Damn Reincarnation - Novel Updates

www.novelupdates.com

Or something set more in eastern setting

Nano Mashin - Novel Updates

www.novelupdates.com

There are some wuxia elements but a lot of it was scifi or practically magic. With ghosts and stuff..I think ?


I. Did go Looking for Xuanhuan tho. There are a few but not alot get translated

In manhwa form there is
Moshin Hunter
The Millennium Alchemist ·
Sword Sheath's Child

Vaguely remember afew stories about op daoist living in seol with dungeon portals and something about the river? Dont member

Those lean to xianxia tho.

 

[Jemini]

I do believe western cultivation exists but most are badly written or just ignored!

The ones who try to use Chinese naming and theming are bad. The ones that just use cultivation as a power-system and make up their own world and rules for the cultivation system actually tend to be pretty awesome.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Sorry i meant qihuan (奇幻, "strange fantasy" or "exotic fantasy") rather than xuanhuan (玄幻, "mysterious fantasy")

Like..

...
.

Damn it making me rummage thru my "nope" reading list.

Funky mix of banana and marital art but not quiet wuxia
E.g

Damn Reincarnation - Novel Updates

www.novelupdates.com

Or something set more in eastern setting

Nano Mashin - Novel Updates

www.novelupdates.com

There are some wuxia elements but a lot of it was scifi or practically magic. With ghosts and stuff..I think ?


I. Did go Looking for Xuanhuan tho. There are a few but not alot get translated

In manhwa form there is
Moshin Hunter
The Millennium Alchemist ·
Sword Sheath's Child

Vaguely remember afew stories about op daoist living in seol with dungeon portals and something about the river? Dont member

Those lean to xianxia tho.

Thanks, have a cookie.

 

[ThrillingHuman]

You use 1000 year old gingseng in one and 1000 year old root in another

 

[mitkopom]

The cultivation based on drugs and pills leading to digestion problems OP cultivator razing mountains with his chi infused fart

 

[Tempokai]

Korean cultivation is more martial arts based, since Murim roughly has meaning "hidden warrior land" or something like that. While Chinese, the originator of this "genre" is all over place.

Shortly put, korean and chinese differs not much, just the culture. Korean, from the media I consumed, is somewhat more enjoyable than the Chinese. Maybe because the MC is not face slapping every 3 chapters and using cliches everytime.

 

[georgelee5786]

Here's a tip. You should decide what genre you want to write, Wuxia, Xianxia, or Xuanhuan.

You just said the same thing three times?

 

[RepresentingWrath]

You just said the same thing three times?

 

[AnonUnlimited]

You just said the same thing three times?

You are no man of culture.
I’d say if you’re only going by cultivation, the Chinese novels xuanhuan is most similar to murim. Although there are a lot of wuxia elements

there is a certain level of martial arts, but regular mortals can play a role in the battles, until one becomes a murim master with mysterious abilities.

Murim world tends to be “China” but with Korean names. Historically, Korea and China were both tied to each other and the martial arts and wars were often intertwined with the culture, even if Koreans are genetically more similar to Mongolians and Japanese.

I name characters English names because I write in English. Simple as that, but I mostly write fantasy/smut on SH so even if there is cultivation I don’t bother with the intricacies since it’s about smut.

Tips? Find a system you’re comfortable writing out, also know the ins and outs as well as exceptions. Cultivation novels start basic and add more and more, I don’t think authors know the highest level until they get there in these novels, because h the r perceived highest is usually superseded when a new bad guy comes.

 

[georgelee5786]

You are no man of culture.
I’d say if you’re only going by cultivation, the Chinese novels xuanhuan is most similar to murim. Although there are a lot of wuxia elements

there is a certain level of martial arts, but regular mortals can play a role in the battles, until one becomes a murim master with mysterious abilities.

Murim world tends to be “China” but with Korean names. Historically, Korea and China were both tied to each other and the martial arts and wars were often intertwined with the culture, even if Koreans are genetically more similar to Mongolians and Japanese.

I name characters English names because I write in English. Simple as that, but I mostly write fantasy/smut on SH so even if there is cultivation I don’t bother with the intricacies since it’s about smut.

Tips? Find a system you’re comfortable writing out, also know the ins and outs as well as exceptions. Cultivation novels start basic and add more and more, I don’t think authors know the highest level until they get there in these novels, because h the r perceived highest is usually superseded when a new bad guy comes.

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I see

 

[RepresentingWrath]

You are no man of culture.
I’d say if you’re only going by cultivation, the Chinese novels xuanhuan is most similar to murim. Although there are a lot of wuxia elements

Murim=Wuxia.

General Glossary of Terms

www.wuxiaworld.com

 

[AnonUnlimited]

Murim=Wuxia.

General Glossary of Terms

www.wuxiaworld.com

Not some of the more recent ones, Xuanhuan represents a minority of them.
Lol, you could go by that definition or you can actually read the novels you say suck

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Not some of the more recent ones, Xuanhuan represents a minority of them.
Lol, you could go by that definition or you can actually read the novels you say suck

What?

 

[UnknownSaint171]

The ones who try to use Chinese naming and theming are bad. The ones that just use cultivation as a power-system and make up their own world and rules for the cultivation system actually tend to be pretty awesome.

I meant Chinese-Western Fantasies but yeah I think the reason that 'Chinese' Originals are bad is because no Writer is willing to invest in such a complicated theme, especially with remembering the names/places.
But yeah I've seen some decent Originals Cultivation novels but it can get pretty cringe when there's a character named Jack saying profound cultivation terms lol