Creating a comedic villian

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So, I am creating a comedy. And the villains personality is a bit skewed so I don't know how to express it.
1. So, she likes money bought things. Things like birthday cards written by 10 year olds are worthless to her. She doesn't do that it is the thought that matters. But, she prefers usefulness over price. So she would prefer, say a kitchen knife, more than a jewellery set. Also, she will be quite rich and spend hefty, so don't show her practical minded or frugal.
2. She does beats up poor children...after cleaning them up so that her shoes don't get dirty and also cleaning the whole area so that she doesn't get sick. She also feels that their body is too hard for the kicks to be enjoyed so she orders a feeding programme to feed them. All this because she wanted to kick them once.
So, yeah..that's all I know about her. Add your own ideas
 

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honestly, i tried to imagine the villain you depict. but i can't see it as comedic at all

the concept is fine, but what matters in comedy are its execution & delivery.
i'm a fans of Jim Carrey you see, and he played lot as comedic villain at his movies. his presentation is audacious, he act as if it's the most evil genius things to do. but failed horribly because simple stuff he overlook. you might be want to use it as reference.

there's also lots of example, but they're mostly the same. an interesting comedic villain is one that makes things looks comical and has timely deliveries.
 

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So, I am creating a comedy. And the villains personality is a bit skewed so I don't know how to express it.
1. So, she likes money bought things. Things like birthday cards written by 10 year olds are worthless to her. She doesn't do that it is the thought that matters. But, she prefers usefulness over price. So she would prefer, say a kitchen knife, more than a jewellery set. Also, she will be quite rich and spend hefty, so don't show her practical minded or frugal.
2. She does beats up poor children...after cleaning them up so that her shoes don't get dirty and also cleaning the whole area so that she doesn't get sick. She also feels that their body is too hard for the kicks to be enjoyed so she orders a feeding programme to feed them. All this because she wanted to kick them once.
So, yeah..that's all I know about her. Add your own ideas
Tbh, the last part, "She does beats up poor children", is just.... like toilet humor....
 

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Tbh, the last part, "She does beats up poor children", is just.... like toilet humor....
It will all depend on my writing, obviously the kicking part would not be graphical, kind of just her butler or a random person giving narrative. I am not planning to do this like a sadistic maniac, she will be the classical villianess, with a touch of absurdity.
 

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Hilarity is about presentation or punchline. Style. You could make a story about some of the most fucked up, horrific shit and still spin it into a dark comedy. Characters do not have to be inherently funny to work for a comedy, but they can help you if need be.

That said, your character doesn't have anything inherently funny to them. Good laughs for a villain comes from incongruity. Genius enough to build a disintegration ray, but stupid enough to give it an obvious self destruct button. Rich, wealthy, and privileged, yet complaining about entirely normal, mundane problems like the number of online subscriptions they have to pay for to get their TV shows. The absurdity or insanity of it all is the source of comedy in these cases. After all, what sane person would do what your villain plans to do?

Alternatively, you could make a more measured villain but put the comedy within the situations and interactions they have with the characters. This can be much harder to do, as it requires good set ups and punchlines, but can be much more rewarding if you know how to do it right.

Another way is to make her character disregard common courtesies and shame. Essentially, when the king or some other great figure enters the room she calls him a cunt and throws a bottle of wine at him. This is challenging as it requires the situations to not instantly degrade due to this absurdity.

Disregarding villainy entirely, the most important aspect to a good character is traits and quirks, and keeping them consistent. Don't make your character act completely totally different from how she should just because you want the situation to be funny. I personally believe that sacrificing consistency for comedy can majorly fuck up a story.
 

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So, I am creating a comedy. And the villains personality is a bit skewed so I don't know how to express it.
I get that. Let's find out what they are like. :blob_popcorn:
So, I am creating a comedy. And the villains personality is a bit skewed so I don't know how to express it.
1. So, she likes money bought things. Things like birthday cards written by 10 year olds are worthless to her. She doesn't do that it is the thought that matters. But, she prefers usefulness over price. So she would prefer, say a kitchen knife, more than a jewellery set.
Okay, so she is practical... :blob_sir:
Also, she will be quite rich and spend hefty, so don't show her practical minded or frugal.
:blob_dizzy:...oh, never mind what I just said.
2. She does beats up poor children...after cleaning them up so that her shoes don't get dirty and also cleaning the whole area so that she doesn't get sick. She also feels that their body is too hard for the kicks to be enjoyed so she orders a feeding programme to feed them. All this because she wanted to kick them once.
:blob_blank::blob_hide: She's edgy. :blobspearpeek:
So, yeah..that's all I know about her. Add your own ideas
Start off by explaining to us all on why she beat kids up? Is this because she had a traumatic childhood like, I don't know, did a kid bite her everyday unless she fought them off? Was she brought up in a boarding house for rabid orphans? What's her problem?
 

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Phineas and Ferb, have many comedic villains with Dr. Doofenshmirtz as the leading example.

One thing that is lacking in your character is motivation. From what I can see, a lot of the comedy that comes from villainous characters are hinged around their motivation. Say, if their motivation is to hunt a rabbit (Elmer Fudd) the comedy would come from their attempts and the inevitable failure. The comedy also seems to be more successful if the motivation is more specific, so a motivation to take over the entire tri-state area is better that some nebulous motivation like to be the powerful.

You are also missing a set-up. If you think about a Tom and Jerry show, what do you think is the setup? Pretty easy, right? Of course, yours doesn't have to be a cat and mouse comedy but there has to be a setup where the comedy would happen.

And talking about setup, you are missing the hero. An important aspect of the villain is their relationship with the hero. And since this is a comedy how can this relationship be comedic?

And also, don't make everything silly and nonsensical. Comedy still actually base itself of our understanding, it just show them in the humorous light. However, if we can't understand what is happening, then the comedy would not work. Don't make everything nonsensical for the sake of comedy because it is not going to work. Also, make the comedy as easy to understand as possible with as little explanation needed to be understood.

That is all for now.
 

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I get that. Let's find out what they are like. :blob_popcorn:

Okay, so she is practical... :blob_sir:

:blob_dizzy:...oh, never mind what I just said.

:blob_blank::blob_hide: She's edgy. :blobspearpeek:

Start off by explaining to us all on why she beat kids up? Is this because she had a traumatic childhood like, I don't know, did a kid bite her everyday unless she fought them off? Was she brought up in a boarding house for rabid orphans? What's her problem?
Just cuz she is evil. Not any backstory. Just evil as dr doof as @Ral said. Also, I thought of clearing her money habits. Since she has seemingly infinite money, for her world is a place which does not run on money. It would be like living in a place where there is no concept of money, you can take whatever you want. Hence, for her, jewellery means nothing since it has no use for her.
Phineas and Ferb, have many comedic villains with Dr. Doofenshmirtz as the leading example.

One thing that is lacking in your character is motivation. From what I can see, a lot of the comedy that comes from villainous characters are hinged around their motivation. Say, if their motivation is to hunt a rabbit (Elmer Fudd) the comedy would come from their attempts and the inevitable failure. The comedy also seems to be more successful if the motivation is more specific, so a motivation to take over the entire tri-state area is better that some nebulous motivation like to be the powerful.

You are also missing a set-up. If you think about a Tom and Jerry show, what do you think is the setup? Pretty easy, right? Of course, yours doesn't have to be a cat and mouse comedy but there has to be a setup where the comedy would happen.

And talking about setup, you are missing the hero. An important aspect of the villain is their relationship with the hero. And since this is a comedy how can this relationship be comedic?

And also, don't make everything silly and nonsensical. Comedy still actually base itself of our understanding, it just show them in the humorous light. However, if we can't understand what is happening, then the comedy would not work. Don't make everything nonsensical for the sake of comedy because it is not going to work. Also, make the comedy as easy to understand as possible with as little explanation needed to be understood.

That is all for now.
I don't plan to have her interact with the hero. It will be kinda like a headline in newspaper everyday that hero just ignores and goes to the sports section. Yes, there will be a base. The plot itself is not comedic, just the villains who are light hearted. The absurdity will be kept in control, I assure you it will not seem like they are on drugs.
 
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Just cuz she is evil. Not any backstory. Just evil as dr doof as @Ral said.

I don't plan to have her interact with the hero. It will be kinda like a headline in newspaper everyday that hero just ignores and goes to the sports section.
So what is exactly the setup here?
 

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So what is exactly the setup here?
That's a good question that I don't have an answer to. I know one ussually makes a plot first and then character, but I just got a sudden urge to write someone like that.
 

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It depends much on how the scene is set.

A villain stepping on poop is funny when it happens. But if the villain delivers a villainous speech with the poop still on his shoes, it's his audience who makes it funny.
 

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It will all depend on my writing, obviously the kicking part would not be graphical, kind of just her butler or a random person giving narrative. I am not planning to do this like a sadistic maniac, she will be the classical villianess, with a touch of absurdity.
(y)
 

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Oh, yeah. Just a note for my future self, I just thought of a news headline.
[Insert name] declares no taxes to be paid.
"I don't want that filthy rotten money." She says
 
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