Content guidelines/sexual content

[Kaguro]

The way that I've read the 'encouragement' clause of the terms is that for most of those topics you need to be actually encouraging the reader to do that act for it to apply, i.e. incitement of an act, which makes sense to ban because incitement to commit a crime is usually illegal in any jurisdiction.

The 18+ on all character ages is the most solid requirement as far as I can tell, in that you cannot have an under 18 depicted at all in sexual content, which most people do in fact abide by (even if they skirt it with legal-loli and other things).

 

[BenJepheneT]

where she fucks her uncle or something?

On one hand holy fuck that's depraved

On the other hand holy fuck reverse ugly old man that's awesome

 

[Aaky]

To clarify, the incest cases all refer to novels with wonderful tags like "slave harem", "harem", "mind control", "mind break", etc.

Yes, my novel. In which I write about a uncharismatic, narcissist pagan, which through the process of the story gets ridiculed by the narrator for his blatant hypocrisy.

Incest just comes with the whole package of ancient rome and ancient greek aristocracies. It has always been a point of mockery to attack the debauchery of the era.

If you ignore the fantasy elements, my depiction of ancient times is similar to works of satirists like Robert Graves and Historical fiction writers like Robert Reynolds. I am just not as good as them, so I need to indulge in some rather specific tones to hook my readers.

The roman emperor Caligula was a sister fucker, so was Honorius (the worst emperor in the west). In no way is incest shown in a positive light.

As for incest in general, no one seems to be giving House of Cards and Game of Thrones too much shit about it.

 

[AryaX]

Umm... Where is the line between consensual and non-consensual in a fantasy setting ?

Obviously raping someone against their will by physical force is non-consensual, and if an average looking human guy or girl, seduces someone to have sex with em "willingly", it is considered consensual, except when wrong age, incest, etc, get thrown into the mix and things get a bit wonky, as an explicit yes's turns into an absolute no no's in the eyes of the law...

But what about a Succubus? What if they're inhumanly beautiful? and their pheromones got some extra oomph? So much so that the brains of mere mortals go a bit haywire with lust and... stuff happen... is it consensual? What if they throw in some charm magic? Does the world "magic" take away the consent? What if the sex is addictive and the mortals end up feeling conflicted, etc, etc, ...

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What about Vampires and necrophilia... ?

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

Yes, my novel. In which I write about a uncharismatic, narcissist pagan, which through the process of the story gets ridiculed by the narrator for his blatant hypocrisy.

Incest just comes with the whole package of ancient rome and ancient greek aristocracies. It has always been a point of mockery to attack the debauchery of the era.

If you ignore the fantasy elements, my depiction of ancient times is similar to works of satirists like Robert Graves and Historical fiction writers like Robert Reynolds. I am just not as good as them, so I need to indulge in some rather specific tones to hook my readers.

The roman emperor Caligula was a sister fucker, so was Honorius (the worst emperor in the west). In no way is incest shown in a positive light.

As for incest in general, no one seems to be giving House of Cards and Game of Thrones too much shit about it.

Sources please for Caligula being a sister fucker. Who said so? I am curious.

Umm... Where is the line between consensual and non-consensual in a fantasy setting ?

Obviously raping someone against their will by physical force is non-consensual, and if an average looking human guy or girl, seduces someone to have sex with em "willingly", it is considered consensual, except when wrong age, incest, etc, get thrown into the mix and things get a bit wonky, as an explicit yes's turns into an absolute no no's in the eyes of the law...

But what about a Succubus? What if they're inhumanly beautiful? and their pheromones got some extra oomph? So much so that the brains of mere mortals go a bit haywire with lust and... stuff happen... is it consensual? What if they throw in some charm magic? Does the world "magic" take away the consent? What if the sex is addictive and the mortals end up feeling conflicted, etc, etc, ...

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What about Vampires and necrophilia... ?

You know the answers if you are consistent.

 

[ChronicleCrawler]

Sadly I require these grasshoppers unfried and undigested so I could have readers. The public may be fickle but there's some speck of gold to be found within the big pile of steaming shit

Aside from that, the aforementioned big pile of steaming sh*ts are warm and perfect for the upcoming freezing winter.

 

[ArcanePunkster]

If you're going to stamp out illegal sexual acts such as incest, bestiality and necrophilia in web novels with underage characters then you'll have to stamp out the ones with characters of consent.

You can't have it one way and then let it slide the other way just because there of age of consent or because it's used to further the plot, but the act isn't glorified.

And authors on this site in the latter position will feel like they're being treated unfairly and lumped in with the former just because on first glance it's viewed as doing the same as those trying to find loopholes just to write loli smut web novels.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

If you're going to stamp out illegal sexual acts such as incest, bestiality and necrophilia in web novels with underage characters then you'll have to stamp out the ones with characters of consent.

You can't have it one way and then let it slide the other way just because there of age of consent or because it's used to further the plot, but the act isn't glorified.

And authors on this site in the latter position will feel like they're being treated unfairly and lumped in with the former just because on first glance it's viewed as doing the same as those trying to find loopholes just to write loli smut web novels.

Don't construct straw men. The guidelines need obviously rationale interpretations according ratio legis.

 

[MR.DANTE]

I think it stop the encouragement of the act in real life because it has consequence on the real world while writing a smut with rape or bestiality doesn't do anything and forbidding people to write what they want would be censure and limit free speech, even if it's about unpleasant argument or illegal things.
On the note I never understood why you can't write underage sex, it's really common in real life for what I know, I don't know about US but consensual sex it's legal at 14 in a lot of countries in Europe, I can see and agree why underage porn films and photo are illegal but I can't see the point in a written fiction

Ps sorry if I made some silly mistakes, me English is not the best

 

[Tony]

So my question, how serious is the scribblehub moderation about this section of the guidelines? How serious are they about enforcing them? Or do they just exist on paper to escape potential legal lawsuits by proving they enacted the best industry standards?

As long as it's reported properly, it'll be taken care of. If you report something, you should quote where and how it's violating Scribble Hub's guidelines. You can't just report something like "Hey, this is violating [X] or [Y]." without quoting the text in the chapter where it's violating the rules. It'll be impossible to read through the story to try to find the violating area. Think about how many reports we get

"loli" doesn't mean the character is always under the age of 18. "loli" is determined by their body. If you think the story is violating SH's guidelines, please report it and include the text where it's violating SH's guidelines.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

As long as it's reported properly, it'll be taken care of. If you report something, you should quote where and how it's violating Scribble Hub's guidelines. You can't just report something like "Hey, this is violating [X] or [Y]." without quoting the text in the chapter where it's violating the rules. It'll be impossible to read through the story to try to find the violating area. Think about how many reports we get



"loli" doesn't mean the character is always under the age of 18. "loli" is determined by their body. If you think the story is violating SH's guidelines, please report it and include the text where it's violating SH's guidelines.

Indicate such then in the report window that you need to provide text examples with page numbers. Detailed as possible is a very poor transcription.

But I will keep this in mind and provide text passages in the future.

 

[Mihou]

Indicate such then in the report window that you need to provide text examples with page numbers. Detailed as possible is a very poor transcription.

But I will keep this in mind and provide text passages in the future.

The text: "Detailed as possible." already indicates that the report must be as detailed as possible, even if Tony were to add "Indicate which part of the story." the fact goes that people will ignore that, and simply report "This story is illegal", etc.

People see a text box, the first thing in their mind is: "I'll write the report here." without knowing that the report has to be as detailed as possible as the text box takes up the majority of the report window, and knowing that you are reporting a story, you wouldn't normally read the text above the textbox since for the most part, websites tend to put the titles there "Report a story" or "Report a user", instead of some important information.

Of course, ScribbleHub places the text on the textbox, but that will be erased immediately after the first character is written. I admit myself, I don't even read what is predefined on the text box and simply write the report to save time.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

The text: "Detailed as possible." already indicate that the report must be as detailed as possible, even if Tony were to add "Indicate which part of the story." the fact goes that people will ignore that, and simply report "This story is illegal", etc.

Hello, crunchy. How are you? And no, it doesn't suffice. Reality proves that such "general clauses" don't work. In fact, he could make a form divided into multiple parts instead of a single window.

And what is your point? If you add more detailed explanation you will be ignored? What logic is that?

 

[Mihou]

Hello, crunchy. How are you? And no, it doesn't suffice. Reality proves that such "general clauses" don't work. In fact, he could make a form divided into multiple parts instead of a single window.

And what is your point? If you add more detailed explanation you will be ignored? What logic is that?

Well, my point is the same as the one you said; abandon the window (the one below) and use a form where you are required to input the required details (or rather, more important details) such as "Which part of the story makes you believe it crossed the line?", "What offenses do you think the story did", etc. rather than some popup window with a textbox that says "Enter report here."

 

[Fox-Trot-9]

Subbed for reference.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

Well, my point is the same as the one you said; abandon the window (the one below) and use a form where you are required to input the required details (or rather, more important details) such as "Which part of the story makes you believe it crossed the line?", "What offenses do you think the story did", etc. rather than some popup window with a textbox that says "Enter report here."

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People see a text box, the first thing in their mind is: "I'll write the report here." without knowing that the report has to be as detailed as possible as the text box takes up the majority of the report window, and knowing that you are reporting a story, you wouldn't normally read the text above the textbox since for the most part, websites tend to put the titles there "Report a story" or "Report a user", instead of some important information.

Of course, ScribbleHub places the text on the textbox, but that will be erased immediately after the first character is written. I admit myself, I don't even read what is predefined on the text box and simply write the report to save time.

O.o This part is new, did you add it?

 

[Mihou]

People see a text box, the first thing in their mind is: "I'll write the report here." without knowing that the report has to be as detailed as possible as the text box takes up the majority of the report window, and knowing that you are reporting a story, you wouldn't normally read the text above the textbox since for the most part, websites tend to put the titles there "Report a story" or "Report a user", instead of some important information.

Of course, ScribbleHub places the text on the textbox, but that will be erased immediately after the first character is written. I admit myself, I don't even read what is predefined on the text box and simply write the report to save time.

O.o This part is new, did you add it?

I edit my messages a lot, that was probably added while you were writing.

 

[Mihou]

Subbed for reference.

Fun fact: If you want to hide yourself but still keep the thread subbed, then there's this thing above :winkie: :P

 

[CL]

I edit my messages a lot, that was probably added while you were writing.

You're not alone doing that.

 

[Fox-Trot-9]

Fun fact: If you want to hide yourself but still keep the thread subbed, then there's this thing above :winkie: :P
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I have been outed!