(COLLEGE RANT) Why do minor subjects exist?

[DaisukeHanashi]

Fuck minor subjects, I hate them... I hate them with all my life.

They're the most useless, irrelevant, stress-inducing piece of freaking crap I have ever been forced to go through with the course.

Like wtf??

Do I have to re-learn the basic general science stuff again after LOOOONG years of being taught in elementary and high school? Do I have to go over dancing lessons again after being taught for a literal decades? Not to mention that we now have a k-12 program that supposedly remove those minor subjects and lessen our effort, but instead... they still keep them for some reason?

Fucking scam, fucking waste of time and money!!

Now you made me loss my serious focus on majors man.... wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff ??

Leave me alone! Let me practice programming and write my stories man! Let me have more productive time and space to learn my own specialization while trying to earn some money man.

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[Corty]

its college.

Half of my subjects were irrelevant to my major. And I mean, irrelevant. 100% without any connection to it besides making sure the course could be stretched out for four years. If I could have cut off all those subjects that had zero ties to my major, the whole thing would have lasted for only two years.

 

[Yairy]

So you can pay more.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

Fuck minor subjects, I hate them... I hate them with all my life.

They're the most useless, irrelevant, stress-inducing piece of freaking crap I have ever been forced to go through with the course.

Like wtf??

Do I have to re-learn the basic general science stuff again after LOOOONG years of being taught in elementary and high school? Do I have to go over dancing lessons again after being taught for a literal decades? Not to mention that we now have a k-12 program that supposedly remove those minor subjects and lessen our effort, but instead... they still keep them for some reason?

Fucking scam, fucking waste of time and money!!

Now you made me loss my serious focus on majors man.... wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff ??

Leave me alone! Let me practice programming and write my stories man! Let me have more productive time and space to learn my own specialization while trying to earn some money man.

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Well, coming from the education sector myself (I'm a PRC-licensed teacher), minor subjects should 'reinforce' the major courses, which in turn, is supposed to 'arm' you for the real life situations. (Nowadays, though, it's for 'units' requirement.)

However, since you're in the Philippines, let me tell you: for you to be employed, you need a diploma even if you got the skills. And when you have the diploma, they'll ask for the experience even if you're newly-graduate. And when you got the experience, you'll definitely need a powerful 'backer', especially in the government sector.

Hence, as a teacher, I highly-advise my students to pick the course they have a passion with. Sadly, this isn't true, since if they did pick a course they like, their parents, guardians, or benefactors would oppose them (famous courses here are 'teacher'-for those whose parents think they have no potential in the future, 'doctor'-for rich families, 'nurse'-for poor families, 'seafarer'-for those who come from the province and think that being a 'seafarer' rakes them lotsa money).

Also, K-12 program of DepEd is the 'band-aid' solution of the Aquino Administration because Filipino workers are the main exports of our country. And in most countries, they already have 12 years in basic education, whereas Philippines before K-12 is only 10 years. For short, employers from other countries deem Filipinos as 'not educated enough' to qualify for the work they are applying with. So, K-12 is DepEd's solution to this.

And, if Filipinos removed K-12, they'll end up with nothing, since the Philippine Government catered its policies in exporting workers to other countries.

Edit: You have to thank the father, Ferdinand Marcos Sr., for setting up the policies that caused for Filipinos looking elsewhere to have some money to buy the things they need. Starting 1970s, the Philippine Government began to export workers (construction and engineers) to Saudi Arabia, which later expanded to other countries as well.

 

[Deleted member 58005]

Are they mandatory?

 

[Deleted member 54065]

Are they mandatory?

Sadly, yes. Especially if you belong to a block class in college.

I. E., I remember my course having a Rizal subject, which I don't think is needed in my future work (if I followed my course), which is a secretary.

 

[DaisukeHanashi]

However, since you're in the Philippines, let me tell you: for you to be employed, you need a diploma even if you got the skills. And when you have the diploma, they'll ask for the experience even if you're newly-graduate. And when you got the experience, you'll definitely need a powerful 'backer', especially in the government sector.

Bruh, how we gonna get some experience after we just freshly graduate out of college? Like, what do they expect from some potential and promising beginners? Unless internships can be considered as that, but I still feel sad for others who haven't passed through some minor subjects that they have missed years ago while doing their internships. Like, I wouldn't want that kind of miserable situation to be happened to me in a future.

Hence, as a teacher, I highly-advise my students to pick the course they have a passion with. Sadly, this isn't true, since if they did pick a course they like, their parents, guardians, or benefactors would oppose them.

If you want to be an artist, you're a failure, but if you want to be a lawyer, doctor, engineer, and (some high-paying professionals), you'll be their 'greatest hero of all time'.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

@DaisukeHanashi another thing that you need to know about the K-12 program is that, it is actually the brain-child of the Arroyo Administration, which she did not implement due to the unpopularity of her corrupt regime back then. Aquino did implement it, and he suffered criticism.

 

[miyoga]

Do you mean minors or gen eds?

Minors are completely optional and may or may not have any crossover with your major. General education (gen eds) are meant to reinforce what's been previously learned (such as taking economics after having graduated and taken high school economics). This is why everyone needs to take at least one course in the core subjects like science or math.

A minor is a supporting skillset/knowledge base. So major in anything business and follow that up with a minor in any language and you've got a pretty strong educational background. Minors also aren't typically a requirement, but many students choose them because they have the option of complementing what the major courses lead to.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

Bruh, how we gonna get some experience after we just freshly graduate out of college? Like, what do they expect from some potential and promising beginners? Unless internships can be considered as that, but I still feel sad for others who haven't passed through some minor subjects that they have missed years ago while doing their internships. Like, I wouldn't want that kind of miserable situation to be happened to me in a future.

Beats me. This is the Philippines. Job hunting here can get unreasonably stupid.

Also, sometimes, it's the minor subjects that causes one not to graduate.

If you want to be an artist, you're a failure, but if you want to be a lawyer, doctor, engineer, and (some high-paying professionals), you'll be their 'greatest hero of all time'.

So, judging by this standard, I'm a failed greatest hero of all time.

Do you mean minors or gen eds?

Minors are completely optional and may or may not have any crossover with your major.

Not in the Philippines, especially if a student belonged to a block section. The college they entered is the one who assigns courses for them to take.

 

[DaisukeHanashi]

Minors are completely optional and may or may not have any crossover with your major.

Well, that's not in our case here. Minors are mandatory... part of a student's prospectus. In order to graduate, you need to comply with a guaranteed amount of units requried (around 80 units or so... i forgot to count, but something like that), and minors are there to fill into that required amount of units, especially majors too. (3 units per subject, but some are 2).

Like... you could see how unbearable our education system is, especially ALL lessons in minor subjects are goddamn repititive over years.

 

[Drunk_Cultivator]

Fucking relatable!!! I can feel your pain mate...
In my first year, and I was studying medicine, fucking medicine!! But they had us study freaking physics, chemistry and some biostatistics shit... And if you think it may have any relevance, then don't worry, because it doesn't.
Why the hell do I need to learn about protons, rayons, thermodynamic and how to count probability and shit like that, which by the way I completely forgot after a few years, when I could have spent the freaking year learning about real stuff!! Stuff that's needed in my profession in the future.
Honestly, my first year felt like a waste. Fortunately, the program started getting good in second and third year.
Now, I am on my 6th year and it still piss me off when I recall how we had to waste a year for no fucking reason.

 

[ThrillingHuman]

Some additional knowledge can indeed serve well to reenforce your main courses. I still feel it was stupid beyond belief we didn't get to study mechanics in my Uni course.
I would enjoy my philosophy courses if they were taught better, and I do regret not listening well to some language courses.
Though I cannot imagine what kind of weird specialisation you have, for you to study science, dancing and programming at the same time.

 

[Theirl]

Fuck minor subjects, I hate them... I hate them with all my life.

They're the most useless, irrelevant, stress-inducing piece of freaking crap I have ever been forced to go through with the course.

Like wtf??

Do I have to re-learn the basic general science stuff again after LOOOONG years of being taught in elementary and high school? Do I have to go over dancing lessons again after being taught for a literal decades? Not to mention that we now have a k-12 program that supposedly remove those minor subjects and lessen our effort, but instead... they still keep them for some reason?

Fucking scam, fucking waste of time and money!!

Now you made me loss my serious focus on majors man.... wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff ??

Leave me alone! Let me practice programming and write my stories man! Let me have more productive time and space to learn my own specialization while trying to earn some money man.

??

There are some really important one like power bi and tributary accouting

 

[TheEldritchGod]

So you can pay more.

THIS.

 

[EitoSan]

I liked minor subjects, it was where I read the most web novels?

 

[miyoga]

And now I'm better informed, thanks Hans and Dai!

 

[DaisukeHanashi]

There are some really important one like power bi and tributary accouting

Those have already been introduced in a senior high school level tho, but more fleshed-out if it's in ABM (Accounting & Business Management) strand.

And I also hate accounting because I can't really bear the freaking 'BALANCED' crap that I have failed to correct in, even though it's essential to understand about how finances work.

 

[melchi]

Can't you test out of certain classes? When I was a freshman they said I could not take calculus but I did pre calc in highschool. I had to figure out how to meet the professor and get a form signed to be in the class.

If nothing else college teaches how to fight the system.

 

[beast_regards]

It's supposed to be difficult.

Otherwise, it wouldn't feel university like enough.

k-12 program

K-12?

Is that KGB training?

That's only for presidential candidates.