Black Character Love Thread

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It’s Black History Month! And as the arbitrator of black writers, I must know about the black characters YOU wrote. I wanna see new representation, their backstory, and what you do to make them a real character.

For UV, my man Dante Florist is probably my favorite black character I’ve written so far. He’s a dude from New York that wants recognition, and becomes politically aware after coming to realize that his existence can be politicized. Of course your character doesn’t have to be deep. I just want to know!
 

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OtherSlater:​

And as the arbitrator of black writers, I must know about the black characters YOU wrote.

what is an "arbitrator". I know the word arbitration, just curious about it in this context.
Also, to answer the question. I didn't. You will next ask, why not. Answer. According to the rules of intersectionality theory? If I write a black character (I'm white) , I'm guilty of cultural appropriation. And I don't want accused of that. This whole thing is a minefield, and I know better than to step in a field of mines.
 

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what is an "arbitrator". I know the word arbitration, just curious about it in this context.
Also, to answer the question. I didn't. You will next ask, why not. Answer. According to the rules of intersectionality theory? If I write a black character (I'm white) , I'm guilty of cultural appropriation. And I don't want accused of that. This whole thing is a minefield, and I know better than to step in a field of mines.
A joke, thinking a bit too hard.

You're telling me you don't have any diversity in your stories because you're not that thing. I don't know you, but this is kind of a self-own. What, afraid of making them into stereotypes instead of making them humans? You don't know what cultural appropriation is! My advice, treat people of color like humans, and you can make the perfect black character.
 

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I have people from all over the world in my story, and I use name generators and research the meaning of names, but I rarely address race, aside from looks. Since I want to focus on writing an enjoyable story, I try my best to ignore real-life problems and injustices. At least in my story, race does not matter at all....

I think stories that deeply address race and use it as a core theme are often serious and depressing, something which I can't dislike since I like to read to calm down and relax.

Would be open to a few good stories, though, but I have to be in a mood where I can deal with the often depressing themes that such a story brings with it.
 

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Reminds me that I never did end up writing that black mayor in my drug novel. The story made a hard stop because even I didn't know what was happening. He was supposed to have been gutted and burned at the pyre after the MC took over.

Btw, can I make black people like the real ones I knew? Ghetto to all hell? That would still be real. Just change the name or legal reasons. Maybe smash three or four together to make someone more unique.

The only other one is a current harem member in a modern day setting. I gave her a sorority girl personality and called it a day.
 
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I have people from all over the world in my story, and I use name generators and research the meaning of names, but I rarely address race, aside from looks. Since I want to focus on writing an enjoyable story, I try my best to ignore real-life problems and injustices. At least in my story, race does not matter at all....

I think stories that deeply address race and use it as a core theme are often serious and depressing, something which I can't dislike since I like to read to calm down and relax.

Would be open to a few good stories, though, but I have to be in a mood where I can deal with the often depressing themes that such a story brings with it.
We are more than our trauma, lmao. You don't have to address race when making a black character. Do you do that when making a fair skinned character? This February maybe look into why you think that and address that internal bias. We can be characters too! Don't have to be any bit of trauma involved.

Btw, can I make black people like the real ones I knew? Ghetto to all hell? That would still be real. Just change the name or legal reasons. Maybe smash three or four to make someone more unique.
Interesting...
 

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We are more than our trauma, lmao. You don't have to address race when making a black character. Do you do that when making a fair skinned character? This February maybe look into why you think that and address that internal bias. We can be characters too! Don't have to be any bit of trauma involved.

??? I just said that I include people from all over the world in my story, including black people. I just said that I don't specifically address race and never make it an issue, aside from describing the character's appearance.
 

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OtherSlater:​

listen to your language. "That's a self own". LIke, I'm guilty of something because I don't engage in it. I haven't even begun? I'm already guilty of something. Language... "You don't know what cultural appropriation is!". Christ, I've not even done anything yet? Now I'm guilty of something twice. Way to make me not nervous.

Yet, I feel you're trying to have a real conversation. I'll reciprocate. true story. I just got back from the service. I was in college. SOme girl got hired to work in the university computer lab. Where I worked. Man, she was tall, a couple inches under six foot. Real skinny, but not that diet down skinny. She still had those cute little curves. But, like some caricature but in real life? Gigantic and I mean g-i-g-a-n-t-i-c gazongas. Every guy in the lab was staring at her. MAN, I tried working that any way I could. Followed her around like a puppy dog. Tried everything.

After a couple months of this, getting nowhere. She lambasted me at a frat party. "You're nothing but a racist pig! You just wanna tell your buddies at the gym? You split black oak!"

Never *once* did any of that shizz come out of my mouth.

I was dumbfounded. I was babbling, and it just came out. Truth serum.

"That's not true! That's not fair! I just wanna go out with you! What the *&^% are you trying to do to me?"

Her next line:

"Well? Why DO you like me then?"

It just came out...

"I like you because you have giant boobs! Look at you!"

(everyone is dying laughing at the party, I guess this was high entertainment)

SO? Now she screamed at me I was a misogynist and I was... you get the picture.

Moral of the story, which was true. This stuff, is a minefield.

Now. Black characters I have liked. Spenser: For Hire. A hardboil detective series. He had a best friend, "Hawk". Hawk was a big giant black guy, but everyone knew he was a stone cold contract killer. I remember the scene where Spenser had a problem with a "made" guy, who was making fun of him, how he couldn't shoot him, because he knew it was against his moral code. Hawk was standing behind the guy. He just leveled his .44 he always carried right at him.

"You *know* I'll do you." One of the best scenes in that book.

bad guy sh!t his pants and took off. ALso, the book "Laguna Heat". Another hardboil. MC was into motorcycles, bad guys had cut his "Cogiva" spark plug wires on his speed bike. He called his best buddy, again some giant black dude, who picked him up for the several hour trip back on the back of his huge Harley Davidson.

I wonder if these are tokenizations. Just included, to have a black character.

Now. One of the best black MC I ever remember? "I, Robot". Detective Spooner. The author (Asimov) had a humorous field day with that one. The robot CEO is accusing SPooner (black) of "being prejudiced against their kind!" (the robots, lol)

I could never pull off that humor, I don't think.

PS - have you figured out that I am a pen name? Do you know why. ZIllions of agents, were stating openly. No white male authors need apply. "We're looking for voices that have been silenced for too long..."
Another common one. "we do not accept any cold submissions. No exceptions! Inbto the garbage it goes, if you don't have an agent. And we mean a real agent." But, right on the same page. "we are looking for any submissions from black writers we can find. No agent required."

hence, my pen name.

this whole subject? is to me, some kind of a minefield. White people? A lot of us don't like talking about it. Even if you're not racist? You're still guilty of something.

Now. I feel I *could* write a white guy/black girl smut. Write what you know, right? I once drove a cab. I developed the cutrest crush on this one young black lady that got a ride three times a week on my route. She was even pregnant, but she had that "glow" that some pregnant girls have. Just, oozing cuteness. Mm. I'll never foreget how she smelled. She wore some kind of coconut lotion, either skin cream or hair product. I could smell her an hour after she left my cab. Always smiling, always flirty friendly. Sweet girl. I could draw on *that*, to make a short smut story, I'm sure.

When I do first person MC, my movie in my head I'm writing from, I'm looking out thru the MCs eyes. To do a black MC, I'd basically be just stating the MC is black, then ignoring it other than that for the rest of the story. The this all brings up the other question. If race is unimportant, why is it so important I must have a black MC. This whole thing is a minefield to me. I leave it to the writers who know how to trackle these issues.

There. My thoughts.
 

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Also, to answer the question. I didn't. You will next ask, why not. Answer. According to the rules of intersectionality theory? If I write a black character (I'm white) , I'm guilty of cultural appropriation. And I don't want accused of that. This whole thing is a minefield, and I know better than to step in a field of mines.
…maybe I’m blind or bad at English but I didn’t see any of this in the OP? I thought all it asked was what are black characters you’ve written before, if you have?

Why are people even replying if they haven’t written one before? ?? It’s like me asking “show off your xianxia novels” and all the responses are “I don’t write xianxia novels because XYZ.” :blob_frown:

Two authors I follow on SH: both are white, like fully. But their books are East Asian inspired. One of them literally writes Chinese cultivation BL. I was utterly blown away by how well-researched all her stories were. Never once had I considered it cultural appropriation. It was awesome! I wouldn’t expect everyone to be this accurate, and plus, it’s fantasy, it’s not gonna be realistic for how people act. I would think black or any race for that matter would not require you to accurately portray everything especially in fantasy stories. Realistic fiction is when you’ll have to be more sensitive.

Anyways… to bring the thread back to topic:

A couple years ago I was writing a silly little college romcom in my free time (it shall never see the light of day ?). The FL is Chinese. One of the FL’s best friends is a black computer science student. I based his appearance on one of my favorite YouTubers because I thought he was pretty ? pretty boy with big round glasses. Family is quite well-off. He’s really smart, and my MC is academically smart but kinda dumb in everything else lol. So he often has to deal with her going to his dorm room and bothering him with dumb questions while he has assignments to do. So it’s like a tired dad dealing with a child ?

Edit: typo oopsies! Typed it all of my phone in a rush.
 
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I usually write secondary world fantasy, so the same racial structures aren’t necessarily in place the way they are in this world. I did write a contemporary fantasy story about fallen angels attempting to come to terms with their newfound humanity though (have not finished it yet, another forever WIP :blob_teary:). One of the main characters, named Lucael, was a Black man in appearance (I say “in appearance” because technically all the angels had bodies made of only light until they fell). He was a sweetheart, loved puns, making people laugh, hot showers, and watching old movies. His story was about learning to put himself first sometimes after a lifetime of only being an instrument of heaven. Learning when empathy and compassion edge into something harmful, that you can be a kind person with boundaries, and that’s okay. He was also the baby of the group, being the youngest at only 20.

The story I’m writing currently is set in a sort of fantasy Asia, but I’ve been mapping out the wider world and thinking of how I can incorporate some more diversity further down the line. It’s something I’d like to do a better job with.
 

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I have a novel here titled "White Death". But, its not what it sounds like in this context.
 

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Love historical stuff! I'll give it a look later.

Sending you my prayers because I can't react to you in any other way right now. :sweat_smile:
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I am cursed with having two black characters in my current novel who I can't really talk about too deeply at this time cuz it would be spoilers. Suffice to say that Nayantara and Manqoba both show up, kick people's asses, and refuse to elaborate further.
I'm also attempting to write an isekai story which has an african-american protagonist but his personality very early in development currently, so he's kind of just a dude right now.
 

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I am cursed with having two black characters in my current novel who I can't really talk about too deeply at this time cuz it would be spoilers. Suffice to say that Nayantara and Manqoba both show up, kick people's asses, and refuse to elaborate further.
I'm also attempting to write an isekai story which has an african-american protagonist but his personality very early in development currently, so he's kind of just a dude right now.
Can't wait to see more!
 

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I keep looking over my stuff and seeing that I have more Asian and Hispanic characters, and a few Italians, but very few blacks. For one thing, it's difficult to not fall into stereotypes unless using real people (and, sadly, I know some real people who fit the stereotypes) for major characters (minor characters, not so much - they fill a role and then are gone usually).
I had one, a kid who saw the universe in terms of pure mathematics, in a superhero fiction I wrote in the 90s, and there's Joshua Wilson, Dane's "sidekick" (literally after one point) in Digital Cowboy Dane but that's about it.
 

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It’s Black History Month! And as the arbitrator of black writers, I must know about the black characters YOU wrote. I wanna see new representation, their backstory, and what you do to make them a real character.

For UV, my man Dante Florist is probably my favorite black character I’ve written so far. He’s a dude from New York that wants recognition, and becomes politically aware after coming to realize that his existence can be politicized. Of course your character doesn’t have to be deep. I just want to know!
Well I just started a sci-fi novel with heavy inspiration from African mythology mostly gods from various tribes in Nigerian folklore.
 

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I wrote a dark elf, but his skin is more obsidian than brown. Although some people, do have that beautiful obsidian shade irl.

If there are ever humans in my work I'll write a black or brown character for sure.
 
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