AI Fiction Update: The Machines Are Coming For Our Words.

[Alfir]

I'm hoping this all happens later rather than sooner.

I still want to make money. I am barely starting... Please don't take it away... I am fine with AI assistance, because I am not English native speaker, but do not take away my creativity. No way AI could be more creative than us, right? That's really what makes a writer special, right? I still need to pay tuition and then there were bills.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

I still want to make money. I am barely starting... Please don't take it away... I am fine with AI assistance, because I am not English native speaker, but do not take away my creativity. No way AI could be more creative than us, right? That's really what makes a writer special, right? I still need to pay tuition and then there were bills.

The problem is a lot of consumers can't tell (or can't tell until its too late) how creative a product is. If it appeals to them, they consume it and worry about other details later.

 

[BornInAbyss]

I honestly agree that most of the AI-generated stories I've seen so far can feel super generic. Playing around with these models, they often repeat the same plot beats or end up playing it way safer than any good human writer would. Sometimes, the results are funny or creative by accident, but nothing I've tried comes close to an actual novel or any legit creative writing from real people. It kind of reminds me how real innovation in tech needs something beyond just more data or bigger models. Like with identity tech, you need real breakthroughs, kind of like what I've read about the orb, where they use special hardware for privacy-focused verification. It's those genuine leaps that shake things up, not just another round of machine training.

 

[Alski]

 

[JayMark]

It's not gravedigging, it's recycling. The thread landfills are overfull. Let him cook.

 

[Author_Riceball]

OpenAI says it has trained an AI that's 'really good' at creative writing | TechCrunch

OpenAI CEO Sam Altman says that OpenAI has trained a 'new model' that's 'really good' at creative writing.

techcrunch.com

Watch out fiction writers....

The goal is to have AI generate fictions that are equal to or superior than anything a trained human can write.
I'd like to see this sample.

someone called me ai today lol.

Nah, use ai art and word tools, fire 10% of the workers, and then implement 50%+ wage suppression on the rest.

All while importing H1Bs from third world countries which are taxed 10% less due to favorable laws, and get paid like 50% less than that and would be willign to accept devalued professional pay over what they have there.

 

[Anonjohn20]

to this day, AI still needs to prove that it can make actual money~.

It has made Spotify millions of dollars, completely robbing DJs. I don't doubt it can make profit even if it's releasing quantity and not quality.

But can it write shameless smut?

Thankfully these corporate dummies keep restricting it, so even the models that allow NSFW are neutered. The hardcore stuff will continue to be made by humans.

All while importing H1Bs from third world countries

Careful, Alfir might report you for bullying him. LOL JK

 

[JayMark]

I'm envisioning a world where AI can do something called flooding the market with reasonably acceptable work. That in of itself is dangerous to writers, but not the writers who have been discovered and made their dime. It's dangerous to the human upstarts.

Future writers will have to realize that there will be nothing original that hasn't already been scraped by the machines. We're getting to the point in this reality where stories can be faked by AI and stolen as they are written. AI scrapping with minor a title change and other minor changes is a thing now. But what is a writer to do, a work in the head is not a work at all. AI controlled by big tech will be the worst offender. Soon, the minute the writer types a word it will be in the process of AI observation. Stories will be mildly rearranged and stolen before they the writer can even think to share it and their story will have another finished form.

Subversive writing will not be stolen or displayed, but writers who choose this path will need to go underground.

Eventually there will be an anti-tech creative movement because of AI abuse, with people creating on paper if they can. Just don't do your work near an AI camera or appliance.

Enjoy these last remnants of the golden age of creativity while you can.

 

[Deleted member 266]

I'm envisioning a world

I envision, every commercial piece of text is sanitized by a.i. for grammar reason, every text is translated by a.i. due to efficiency.

People consume these text like non-smokers breathing secondary hand smoke.

Subconsciously these "new" writers will write the same way a.i. does even with oit using it, because that is the only "voice" they consumed.

Writers that can write not "sounding like a.i." is what sells, and the bar of "good" is lower, since what sells is to sound "human". Where the sound of a.i. is the norm.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

Thankfully these corporate dummies keep restricting it, so even the models that allow NSFW are neutered. The hardcore stuff will continue to be made by humans.

...and subhuman degenerates. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

 

[JayMark]

I envision, every commercial piece of text is sanitized by a.i. for grammar reason, every text is translated by a.i. due to efficiency.

People consume these text like non-smokers breathing secondary hand smoke.

Subconsciously these "new" writers will write the same way a.i. does even with oit using it, because that is the only "voice" they consumed.

Writers that can write not "sounding like a.i." is what sells, and the bar of "good" is lower, since what sells is to sound "human". Where the sound of a.i. is the norm.

Unfortunately with big teams and bigger budgets, problems like that can be solved. AI will be segmented and be able to produce such a variety of voices that distinguishing human from machine will become a Sisyphean task.

 

[LuoirM]

Talk to me when the easily accessible AI doesn't have to obey censorship laws and can write filthy fetish stuff

 

[JayMark]

Talk to me when the easily accessible AI doesn't have to obey censorship laws and can write filthy fetish stuff

You gotta have money to access the good stuff. Sorry.

 

[Deleted member 266]

AI will be segmented and be able to produce such a variety of voices that distinguishing human from machine will become a Sisyphean task

But will these voices be "Unique"? If it's unique, is that "A.I."?

I think people in general undervalue the fingerprint of their writing.

Do you remember reading Envy's book?

Is it super interesting? Or super well written? I don't know... It wasn't what I usually read... But I still remember the "voice" or the fingerprint of how she writes, and it's not exactly something A.I.-like, nor is it something that you say is good or bad writing. It's something that just IS.

My post here just now, can you hear the sound of my voice?

The beats of my cadence? The sound of the drums...

Do you think A.I. can have the same voice as me? When I write the same way I talk...

I don't know...

 

[JayMark]

But will these voices be "Unique"? If it's unique, is that "A.I."?

I think people in general undervalue the fingerprint of their writing.

Do you remember reading Envy's book?

Is it super interesting? Or super well written? I don't know... It wasn't what I usually read... But I still remember the "voice" or the fingerprint of how she writes, and it's not exactly something A.I.-like, nor is it something that you say is good or bad writing. It's something that just IS.

My post here just now, can you hear the sound of my voice?

The beats of my cadence? The sound of the drums...

Do you think A.I. can have the same voice as me? When I write the same way I talk...

I don't know...

Did you use AI to respond? lol jk

The problem is I don't think most readers care about authorial voice all that much. If the story is entertaining they will consume it. Perhaps there are some very astute readers that care, but they won't be enough to support new writers.

The majority of readers, readers being a diminsihing minority themselves, will be consuming the next AI Harry Potter fanfiction that is algorithmically designed to stroke the mean sensibility and not offend it any way while nudging them toward a mainstream socially acceptable paradigm.

 

[Author_Riceball]

Alfir

who is that

 

[Deleted member 266]

 

[JayMark]

Honestly this is an acceptable strategy and I have already written AI bait like this before into the story Mogg-Dell Beef Ear Pie.

 

[Eldoria]

Honestly this is an acceptable strategy and I have already written AI bait like this before into the story Mogg-Dell Beef Ear Pie.

I'm not sure it's completely 'not imitable'. If you feed random data into the training data, the AI is very likely to imitate it, even with 90% accuracy.

The only thing that is IMPOSSIBLE for AI to imitate is something that hasn't been in their training data. In other words, truly unique ideas.

The exception is that if the idea is fed into the training data, it will be easily imitated by AI. That means we have to continuously create ideas that are new and unique. But we know... It's not easy. How many unique ideas have never been thought of?

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

It has made Spotify millions of dollars, completely robbing DJs. I don't doubt it can make profit even if it's releasing quantity and not quality.


Thankfully these corporate dummies keep restricting it, so even the models that allow NSFW are neutered. The hardcore stuff will continue to be made by humans.


Careful, Alfir might report you for bullying him. LOL JK

AI or Spotify? Which was the decisive factor? And was it even the merit of AI?