CupcakeNinja
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so listen up mates im in the process of moving the content of the first volume of my main story to a new website I'm entering into a contract with. Previously you could only read it after buying it from Google or Amazon or if you asked me directly for an epub file, but since I'm moving the chapters there and haven't signed anything yet you can read the chapters for free.
I dunno how many would even care to read the story, but hey i just thought i'd make a thread about it in case there were people who had ever thought, "well damn i really wanted to read the rest of that" but either didn't have the means to purchase the volume or simply couldn't be bothered. Well now's your chance, bros.
Anyway here's a link to the website you can read it from.
www.ringdomstory.com
Not every chapter is up yet but I'm doing the whole tedious process as we speak.
There's other stories at ringdom too you might like. Hm, its like Webnovel tho where some stories are like locked behind a paywall, but i dunno how many are like that since it seems like a small website
You don't have to read past this point if you don't want to, I'm just gonna take the opportunity to explain a few things about Ringdom since they came up and I'm too lazy to make another thread dedicated to them.
In short, if you've ever heard of Ringdom and been offered a contract with them, but aren't sure if its right for you, then i can tell you my thoughts about them and my reasons for why i think it doesn't even matter if they're a scam company depending on your circumstance.
FOr anyone who dont want to read a long ass rant about my thoughts, let me give the TLDR: If you are a new author with ongoing stories, RIngdom and any website like it and any website affiliated with it probably isn't for you. You wont get paid anything unless you can really dedicate yourself to writing chapters and meeting a word count threshold each month to earn yourself like 50$ per month.
But if you are an author who has a finished story, and it meets a threshold of at least 60k words, then you can earn 50 dollars at the very least, and up to a few hundred dollars for 200k. Which may be a good option for you, since as i explain in the spoiler you probably wont get any money at all if you publish through Amazon simply because its so hard to properly advertise your story and because its a heavily competitive scene to begin with.
So even if you do earn something, most likely it wont be much. My story earned less than 300 over the course of 8 months, for example, with a price of 3$, and it was a story that had millions of views and high rankings, ratings, and a lot of positive reviews. So just imagine how much harder it'd be for a less popular story.
Anyway that's all. Just those two things i wanted to mention for anyone interested.
I dunno how many would even care to read the story, but hey i just thought i'd make a thread about it in case there were people who had ever thought, "well damn i really wanted to read the rest of that" but either didn't have the means to purchase the volume or simply couldn't be bothered. Well now's your chance, bros.
Anyway here's a link to the website you can read it from.
My Sister The Villainess by cupcake ninja - online books | Ringdom
A place for book-lovers to read different genres of fictions; A community that helps writers to publish their works.
Not every chapter is up yet but I'm doing the whole tedious process as we speak.
There's other stories at ringdom too you might like. Hm, its like Webnovel tho where some stories are like locked behind a paywall, but i dunno how many are like that since it seems like a small website
You don't have to read past this point if you don't want to, I'm just gonna take the opportunity to explain a few things about Ringdom since they came up and I'm too lazy to make another thread dedicated to them.
In short, if you've ever heard of Ringdom and been offered a contract with them, but aren't sure if its right for you, then i can tell you my thoughts about them and my reasons for why i think it doesn't even matter if they're a scam company depending on your circumstance.
So some people here have probably seen threads about Ringdom, Dreame or Starry, talking about how the website are scams. And i did my research, so let me say right now that this is half true and half not.
Let me explain. See, apparently these companies try to lure in young authors and screw them over in their contracts, like for example if you enter a contract with them you don't get paid if you story is still ongoing. Or if its complete, you don't get paid anything if you don't meet a certain threshold of words by the end. Also they may ask you to pay back any earned royalties if you just suddenly leave them--but that's actually fair, and many legit companies do that. Why? Cuz they put in an effort to advertise your work for you when you enter into a contract with tem, so if you suddenly just leave they would lose money.
So while that part is okay, the other two points are sort of scummy, but apparently they DO pay if you do meet those requirements. And they offer like dunno 50$ a month if you meet another threshold for word count within that month. As an incentive to keep writing. Again, from what I've researched they do pay, you just have to really make an effort to get money.
But, eh, i don't mind that since I'm not overly attached to any of my stories like that. I'm getting paid 300 in advance regardless since the whole first volume DOES match the threshold, and its a complete volume. So, pfft, i beat their system on that one.
I can still continue volume one for free since i just gotta make a new page, transfer the v2 chapters and change the title a bit, too. So dont think you are trapped even if you sign an exclusive contract with them. If your story has multiple volumes, you can give them exclusive right to ONLY ONE VOLUME and continue to post the other volumes elsewhere so long as you change the title or at least add "volume x" to the end.
Aight so i explained my situation there. Now, lets get onto whether Ringdom is right for you. First off, look at this
that explains about the contract Ringdom's sister site, Dreame, basically scams the authors who contract with them.
Now, let me just tell you that if you haven't finished your story and it doesn't meet the minimum threshold for you to get paid...then maybe don't consider signing with Ringdom. But if you meet those requirements, like me? It could be something you'd be interested. So long as you dont mind the story not being spread out to a bunch of different websites. Which lets be honest, isn't any different than publishing it on Amazon.
I didn't read anything about my copyrights to the story being taken when i read MY contract, and Dreame isn't RIngdom even though its affiliated...but maybe i just missed that part in the contract. So, that's bad, right? If you sign, you lose your copyright to your story maybe.
Here's why that doesn't really matter tho: Your story will not be likely to sell well even if you publish it through sites like Amazon anyway. Its just not gonna happen unless you know how to advertise your story well and put money into doing so, unless you have a large and loyal reader base willing to support you too. But those things...yeah, most authors don't have that.
Sad truth is, you publish through Amazon and you probably wont make much money even in a year. My story? It was pretty popular on Webnovel, and it holds high ranking here too and i have several millions of views too collectively (dunno how many actually kept reading the story, but anyway if you dont have at least that many clicks on your story's page it prolly wont do well unless what viewers you DO get keep reading and are loyal fans).
But on Amazon, i didn't make more than 260$ over the span of like 6-8 months. Not including the like other 100$ i earned from Google, but still. This is cuz i didn't market my story. Didnt advertise it. Cuz i didn't know how, much like other authors wouldnt.
It's a harsh and competitive scene, kids. You likely wont make much, if anything, even if you publish through legit channels. Like i said, unless you know how to market the story well and are willing to pay.
Now, why it doesn't matter that the contract is unfair: You may lose that one story. If the contract is really a scam, then yeah, you will. But you can literally write anything else, so why bother caring so much over one story? Make another story similar to it if you want, no one is gonna stop you.
Another reason it doesn't matter is because if you meet the requirements like i do and give exclusive rights to Ringdom like i will for my first volume, well you can probably get an advance of 300$ like i will. And its not much, but its something. Like i said, most of you wont make much if anything from publishing your stories to Amazon. So why not just give it to RIngdom or a site like it and actually get a bit of money from it?
Thats how i see it. I dont mind even if i do lose copyrights to that volume. I got something from it. Meanwhile i know that if i published any of my other stories to Amazon i probably wouldn't have gotten anything. Cuz even my most popular work didn't do well, so why would they? I'd rather just give Ringdom them, too, and at least be guaranteed that 300. Provided i meet the word count requirement.
And there are tiers, too. So even if you dont meet the 200k for the 300$ you can even meet the 60k word count for a completed story to earn like 50$
See here for the details
www.ringdomstory.com
I mean i haven't been paid my advance yet, but that's cuz i haven't signed anything yet as I'm still moving my content over to the site. If they fail to pay me, which i doubt, i will let yall know tho.
Let me explain. See, apparently these companies try to lure in young authors and screw them over in their contracts, like for example if you enter a contract with them you don't get paid if you story is still ongoing. Or if its complete, you don't get paid anything if you don't meet a certain threshold of words by the end. Also they may ask you to pay back any earned royalties if you just suddenly leave them--but that's actually fair, and many legit companies do that. Why? Cuz they put in an effort to advertise your work for you when you enter into a contract with tem, so if you suddenly just leave they would lose money.
So while that part is okay, the other two points are sort of scummy, but apparently they DO pay if you do meet those requirements. And they offer like dunno 50$ a month if you meet another threshold for word count within that month. As an incentive to keep writing. Again, from what I've researched they do pay, you just have to really make an effort to get money.
But, eh, i don't mind that since I'm not overly attached to any of my stories like that. I'm getting paid 300 in advance regardless since the whole first volume DOES match the threshold, and its a complete volume. So, pfft, i beat their system on that one.
I can still continue volume one for free since i just gotta make a new page, transfer the v2 chapters and change the title a bit, too. So dont think you are trapped even if you sign an exclusive contract with them. If your story has multiple volumes, you can give them exclusive right to ONLY ONE VOLUME and continue to post the other volumes elsewhere so long as you change the title or at least add "volume x" to the end.
Aight so i explained my situation there. Now, lets get onto whether Ringdom is right for you. First off, look at this
that explains about the contract Ringdom's sister site, Dreame, basically scams the authors who contract with them.
Now, let me just tell you that if you haven't finished your story and it doesn't meet the minimum threshold for you to get paid...then maybe don't consider signing with Ringdom. But if you meet those requirements, like me? It could be something you'd be interested. So long as you dont mind the story not being spread out to a bunch of different websites. Which lets be honest, isn't any different than publishing it on Amazon.
I didn't read anything about my copyrights to the story being taken when i read MY contract, and Dreame isn't RIngdom even though its affiliated...but maybe i just missed that part in the contract. So, that's bad, right? If you sign, you lose your copyright to your story maybe.
Here's why that doesn't really matter tho: Your story will not be likely to sell well even if you publish it through sites like Amazon anyway. Its just not gonna happen unless you know how to advertise your story well and put money into doing so, unless you have a large and loyal reader base willing to support you too. But those things...yeah, most authors don't have that.
Sad truth is, you publish through Amazon and you probably wont make much money even in a year. My story? It was pretty popular on Webnovel, and it holds high ranking here too and i have several millions of views too collectively (dunno how many actually kept reading the story, but anyway if you dont have at least that many clicks on your story's page it prolly wont do well unless what viewers you DO get keep reading and are loyal fans).
But on Amazon, i didn't make more than 260$ over the span of like 6-8 months. Not including the like other 100$ i earned from Google, but still. This is cuz i didn't market my story. Didnt advertise it. Cuz i didn't know how, much like other authors wouldnt.
It's a harsh and competitive scene, kids. You likely wont make much, if anything, even if you publish through legit channels. Like i said, unless you know how to market the story well and are willing to pay.
Now, why it doesn't matter that the contract is unfair: You may lose that one story. If the contract is really a scam, then yeah, you will. But you can literally write anything else, so why bother caring so much over one story? Make another story similar to it if you want, no one is gonna stop you.
Another reason it doesn't matter is because if you meet the requirements like i do and give exclusive rights to Ringdom like i will for my first volume, well you can probably get an advance of 300$ like i will. And its not much, but its something. Like i said, most of you wont make much if anything from publishing your stories to Amazon. So why not just give it to RIngdom or a site like it and actually get a bit of money from it?
Thats how i see it. I dont mind even if i do lose copyrights to that volume. I got something from it. Meanwhile i know that if i published any of my other stories to Amazon i probably wouldn't have gotten anything. Cuz even my most popular work didn't do well, so why would they? I'd rather just give Ringdom them, too, and at least be guaranteed that 300. Provided i meet the word count requirement.
And there are tiers, too. So even if you dont meet the 200k for the 300$ you can even meet the 60k word count for a completed story to earn like 50$
See here for the details
Contracted Work Award 2020 PC
A place for book-lovers to read different genres of fictions; A community that helps writers to publish their works.
I mean i haven't been paid my advance yet, but that's cuz i haven't signed anything yet as I'm still moving my content over to the site. If they fail to pay me, which i doubt, i will let yall know tho.
But if you are an author who has a finished story, and it meets a threshold of at least 60k words, then you can earn 50 dollars at the very least, and up to a few hundred dollars for 200k. Which may be a good option for you, since as i explain in the spoiler you probably wont get any money at all if you publish through Amazon simply because its so hard to properly advertise your story and because its a heavily competitive scene to begin with.
So even if you do earn something, most likely it wont be much. My story earned less than 300 over the course of 8 months, for example, with a price of 3$, and it was a story that had millions of views and high rankings, ratings, and a lot of positive reviews. So just imagine how much harder it'd be for a less popular story.
Anyway that's all. Just those two things i wanted to mention for anyone interested.
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