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Did I upset you in some other thread? I thought I was being rather mild today. I never said art was the result of something. AI image generation can produce pretty nice results. That's not really the basis of what I'm saying. Also, everything I've said is based on my own feelings and opinions...

I use AI to make covers all the time. I don't consider the covers to be true works of art as produced by me. I do prompt and fashion the art as best I can to convey the prose within the story. But even though I can finagle the images to sort of get what I want, which conveys what's in the story...

This is basically my stance. However, you can redraft the story and take the key points you like and did well and incorporate them into your new draft. This would mean starting on a blank page, page one, and writing the story again. So this is not editing, it's redrafting. It's creation process...

Damn!

More specifically, is it the people on there? I feel like I've seen a shift in the kind of behavior from some people and it's really got my annoyed. Anyone have anything to add? I don't want to get too specific.

I think a writer is a person who writes. If you're using AI to produce pose, you're not writing, you're prompting. For me, the most important thing about writing is maintaining the fact that it is "art," and what makes it art is your unique style through voice. Even rough prose with author voice...

Is there a rule to how long your novel has to be? Do you even need to write a novel? The Jinni and the Isekai is 900 pages, but it's 6 volumes, each volume being it's own smaller plot and somewhat self-contained. They're around 30,000-40,000 words each.

Isn't it just lesbian romance? Girl love? I dunno.

Didn't read, but I'm in Japan, too. :s_wink:

I think you're right, however, there's something else to consider, and that's aesthetics. There's a lot of great AI art on the internet. Some of it is quite intriguing and I wouldn't be against printing and hanging some of this stuff. However, if I was going to spend money to support an artist...

My take is that if you use AI to write anything, you're not making art, you're producing some kind of product. If you can sell your product or people like it, good for you, but I won't be reading it, lol. For me, author voice is the most important thing in fiction. I want to hear the writer...

I tend to lose interest if I take a break. It's hard for me to get going on writing, but once I'm going I'm an unstoppable train. But stopping and getting started again on a project is even harder.

You didn't tell us how yours do, sir.

I read Ender's Game. Good book. One of the chapters is "And then they ran." Kinda cool style there. Well, prose is art, so we can all dunk on "bad prose" but at the end of the day, it's just not your taste. Is somebody liked that dude's stories, great. Not everyone will, no matter who you are...

I don't edit. I do fix typos and grammar mistakes that I won't want, otherwise, if something isn't working, I redraft the section. Editing removes your author imprint from the prose. It's deadly. Plus, as you say, it's boring and no fun and it doesn't make the writing better.

I'm not sure I would worry too much. People pirating your story will never pay anyway, so they're not readers you want to attempt to keep by combing the internet worrying about it.

I'm almost allergic to character driven stories. It harkens me back to American TV shows, where you have what ultimately is supposed to be a heavily plot driven show like The Walking Dead, turned into a drama fest where we bounce from character to character to character each with their own deep...

Yeah, well I got an AI written review on one of my stories, and then the person asked me to go read and review their own work. I never mentioned AI, but I did ask her if she wrote the review, and she said "I didn't use AI." ............

Not only is that a ton of work, but you run the risk of making a world so alien that readers have a hard time getting into the story. We need some familiarity. I would save 70-80% familiarity, to 20-30% fantastical.

No. I'm in control of the story, so it doesn't go where I don't decide it's going to go. I lead the story, the story doesn't lead me. Ideas pop into my head as I write along. I usually write 3,000 words in an hour or two without an outline, so a LOT of things are popping into my head. I have to...