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SirContro
SirContro
Also Buggy will be king of the pirates.
RepresentingWrath
RepresentingWrath
And being one of the warlords doesn't imply strength either since it is a government organisation. They didn't pick the strongest, the picked members who will more or less listen to them.
SirContro
SirContro
Actually that's entirely what it implies. The purpose is to have pirates deal with other pirates, meaning that you have to be stronger than most pirates to be of use to them.
RepresentingWrath
RepresentingWrath
No, it does not. They don't recruit based on strength alone.
JayMark
JayMark
I theorize that some of the characters that 'don't have haki' actually just have less refined haki. That idea helps me maintain some level of sanity when watching. Still think the concept needed a minor nerf.
SirContro
SirContro
I didn't say strength alone but it is a factor. Literally none of them are supposed to be seen as weak, even Crocodile. Crocodile simply showed up too early so now he seems like a complete loser.
SirContro
SirContro
You are kinda right about that Jay, at least with Usopp. We know he has obs haki but he used it like once or twice and forgot about it.
RepresentingWrath
RepresentingWrath
Crocodile wasn't seen as weak bruv. Haki is a very advanced technique that not a lot of people know so it's ok for him to lose to it, especially considering he didn't train. He is a bottom feeder because he does not train.
JayMark
JayMark
What do you expect, he's a crocodile weak to water, except when he's not. He's only strong in deserts.

Though sucking water out of people was really cool, why doesn't he do that no more?
SirContro
SirContro
The hell you mean not many people know? Basically everyone in the new world knows it. Also, I didn't say he was seen as weak. When he lost to Luffy he was a tough opponent but that's the problem he lost to pre-timeskip Luffy and he doesn't even have the excuse of being way past his prime and depressed like Moria.
JayMark
JayMark
Luffy had wet fists though! WET FISTS!
SirContro
SirContro
Yeah, and that's stupid.
RepresentingWrath
RepresentingWrath
You say "Why the hell Crocodile loses to haki?" I say because he doesn't train. You say "Well ackhchually he was one of the warlords, so it means he is strong." I say yes, warlords were strong, but strength wasn't the only criteria. You say, "Stength is a factor for becoming a warlord." Like, bruv. Losing to haki is ok when you don't train. You said nothing to prove the opposite.
RepresentingWrath
RepresentingWrath
Know as in know how to use it.
JayMark
JayMark
Also it's speculated that Luffy just had unrefined joyboy reality altering power known as 'plot armor +' all along.

And Crocodile never invested in Scranton Reality Anchors
SirContro
SirContro
Think about it like this, Crocodile if he doesn't train to even get basic armamant haki remains a sctub who is only useful in the desert where there is no water around. What value does that kind of pirate bring to the World Government?
SirContro
SirContro
How is he expected to be of service to them and why would they not just throw him in Impel Down immediately upon capturing him, knowing he can't be in an environment where every other pirate is?
RepresentingWrath
RepresentingWrath
Also, Crocodile was seen as strong opponent because Luffy was weak. He didn't learn how to use Haki. Yet during timeskip while Luffy had Rayleigh teach him, Crocodile did nothing to become strongerr. That's your answer why he lost and now is considered a bottom feeder.
SirContro
SirContro
If crocodile was introduced later he 100% would have had haki or at least some way of getting around it. Because he was introduced super early the concept of haki powercrept him.
RepresentingWrath
RepresentingWrath
Because not everyone can use haki for fuck's sake. A legendary pirate taught Luffy, the best swordsman of this era taught Zoro, Koby was taught by the legendary Garp. You see the pattern here? If haki is so fucking easy to learn, then why the hell Garp won't teach every marine ever to wield it?
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