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ElijahRyne
ElijahRyne
Tsuru
Tsuru
That is the thing @Tsuru that is what sounds good to me…. The more voices, the more unique things each voice does, the better it sounds imo. Of course there are limitations to that, but dissonance often sounds pleasant to my ears
🤔hmmmm.... I see.
Tsuru
Tsuru
Then what i can recommend is finding a lot of "dissonance songs" that are successful so you can copy/take inspiration from them.

And study "what works".

Mangakas do that. So its not shameful.
ElijahRyne
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Tsuru
Tsuru
CHATGPT :

🧠 What your friend probably means by “dissonance”​


In simple terms:


👉 Dissonance = notes that clash / feel unstable / tense


Instead of sounding “pretty” or resolved, it sounds:


  • uneasy
  • emotional
  • chaotic
  • sometimes creepy

Music uses it to create tension or intensity.
Tsuru
Tsuru
Envylope
Envylope
I dunno, the first one is not bad. I listen to a lot of music, but I am no music expert. Unless it's rap music.
Tsuru
Tsuru
  • chaotic
  • sometimes creepy
🤔 No wonder i often found "creepy" vibes in all your songs.
-> Reply to elijah.
ElijahRyne
ElijahRyne
If you go to about 7:20 in the prelude and fugue video you might get a better view. Shostakovich was a quarter of what my music brain grew up on.
Envylope
Envylope
Actually, I like the second one too. If I had to say, neither of them sound particularly great musically, but maybe it is supposed to be jarring? There are some musicians who got famous creating jarring or grating sounds like Korn lead singer, for example.
Tsuru
Tsuru
Tired, leaving, my arms are hurting.
Tsuru
Tsuru
Actually, I like the second one too. If I had to say, neither of them sound particularly great musically, but maybe it is supposed to be jarring? There are some musicians who got famous creating jarring or grating sounds like Korn lead singer, for example.
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ElijahRyne
ElijahRyne
@Envylope Thank you! Are you listening with or without headphones?
Envylope
Envylope
I am listening with headphones. If you never listened to Korn, I recommend it. If even to hear the lead singer's voice in certain songs, and I am not really only talking about their most famous songs. There is a reason the band used to have a cult following. The lead singer had a voice that was grating to many listeners, but it was intent.
ElijahRyne
ElijahRyne
@Envylope they are pieces with 4 or more independent voices doing their own things. “Clear Skies“ is less complex with two layers repeating a chord/motif, while “Contemplate” has two main and two secondary voices + one voice repeating the flute’s line at a higher pitch. Each is doing their own thing.
Envylope
Envylope
There is an easy way to make a dark song you can practice. You do 1-2, 1-2, 1-2, with alternating high notes. Pling-pling, pling-pling, and then you do insertions for ambiance. Think of like the intro to Beethoven's song do-do, do-do, do-do. This is a classic, and it's good for horror to make listener feel chased. Then you add insertions.
Envylope
Envylope
Like your hard piano would come with a break in the music, and you could add background things like organs.
ElijahRyne
ElijahRyne
“Clear Skies” and “Contemplate“ both use a pentatonic scale. In “Clear Skies“ there is technically no dissonance outside of what comes from the instruments. In “Contemplate“ I add a bit of dissonance by choosing notes outside of the scale. I have listened to some Korn, although mostly from Neil Cicierega mash ups.
Envylope
Envylope
Korn was a great band at creating dissonance. If you want another, I recommend a japanese one called Kikuo.
Envylope
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