Isekai in sexist world

Agasthenes

New member
Joined
Dec 9, 2020
Messages
5
Points
3
(female) MC gets isekaied to a sexist world.

A lot of isekai novels seem to go to places where the society is completely equal.

No intra species sexism and of course there are female rules, levels or magic eradicate all difference between the sexes.

Im not looking for anything ridiculous like "all woman are slaves hur dur." But the mc dealing with a culture, maybe comparable to nineteenth century europe.

(A woman could own a business but it is unusual and of course rape is outlawed but good luck getting the mayor's son convicted)

Basically mc (realistically) dealing with an established patriarchy.
 

BenJepheneT

Syro - Aphex Twin
Joined
Jul 14, 2019
Messages
5,347
Points
233
Depends. There's still some semblance of sexism in current society but it's quiet and under the rugs. It all comes down to you. Do you want loud and bold sexism or silent and quiet sexism?
 

Assurbanipal_II

Nyampress of the Four Corners of the World
Joined
Jul 27, 2019
Messages
2,722
Points
153
Show me a novel where female MCs are supposedly equal? I am genuinely curious.
 

MrTiemos

DinoSir, thank you very much!
Joined
Jul 15, 2019
Messages
138
Points
83
I’m certain that a good majority of Japanese novels have that as an established background, but you’re asking for this to actively happen in the foreground right?
 

MR.DANTE

Active member
Joined
Dec 15, 2020
Messages
68
Points
33
You can try Beneath the Dragoneye Moons, it's not exactly what you are looking for and I don't really like it that much even if it looked promising at the beginning but should fitt the bill well enough.
I think there are few of such novels because if you have a system that doesn't discriminate based on sex and give you stats, magic and so on as you progress, being woman no longer make you weaker and even the ground, so if woman are socially oppressed it means that they are less capable of taking advantage of the system or less prone to taking risks making so that overtime they got in a position to be oppressed even with a fair playing ground
 

Angry_Clown

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 4, 2019
Messages
151
Points
83
good luck getting the mayor's son convicted
And good luck getting the mayor's daughter convicted as well, because, as Cersei Lannister said: power is power. In this case, it has nothing to do with the gender of the criminal, but rather the position of power said criminal enjoys.

A woman could own a business but it is unusual
Again, not sexism, but a lack of women starting businesses, making women-owned stores a rarity.


TBH, I have yet to see a fiction novel with an apt implementation of systematic and widely accepted sexism in society, beyond superficial bullshit the authors like to pull to feel good and righteous. My guess, it's because said authors live in advanced and prosperous countries where that kind of sexism simply doesn't exist and what they end up describing are simply individual sleazebags. And those can be of any gender, age, or social standing.
 

BenJepheneT

Syro - Aphex Twin
Joined
Jul 14, 2019
Messages
5,347
Points
233
Show me a novel where female MCs are supposedly equal? I am genuinely curious.
if you look deeper than the surface in most fiction you could definitely spot the inequality. i think what OP wants is sexism in which it's loud, unadulterated and put on the forefront like a toddler's asscheeks with no holds barred whatsoever

Islamic wife treatment type shit
 

Assurbanipal_II

Nyampress of the Four Corners of the World
Joined
Jul 27, 2019
Messages
2,722
Points
153
if you look deeper than the surface in most fiction you could definitely spot the inequality. i think what OP wants is sexism in which it's loud, unadulterated and put on the forefront like a toddler's asscheeks with no holds barred whatsoever

Islamic wife treatment type shit
Then he should look for BDSM and smut. There enough novels here on scribble to suit his tastes.
 

BenJepheneT

Syro - Aphex Twin
Joined
Jul 14, 2019
Messages
5,347
Points
233
Then he should look for BDSM and smut. There enough novels here on scribble to suit his tastes.
i think he means it in the sense where the sexism is the focus of the setting and that it's self-aware that it's sexist aside from the author's personal perception of the world
 

DevilPogoStick

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 12, 2020
Messages
42
Points
58
I'm pretty sure I did read a manga that's kinda similar in this premise. A high school girl and a guy she knows are killed by a truck accident. While the dude becomes an adventurer, she becomes a prostitute since the world they're in doesn't give women much rights.

...Can't find it at the moment so the title escapes me
 

xluferx

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2019
Messages
136
Points
83
(female) MC gets isekaied to a sexist world.

A lot of isekai novels seem to go to places where the society is completely equal.

No intra species sexism and of course there are female rules, levels or magic eradicate all difference between the sexes.

Im not looking for anything ridiculous like "all woman are slaves hur dur." But the mc dealing with a culture, maybe comparable to nineteenth century europe.

(A woman could own a business but it is unusual and of course rape is outlawed but good luck getting the mayor's son convicted)

Basically mc (realistically) dealing with an established patriarchy.
I don't know but most generic isekai I've seen always touch the whole racism thing, demihumans aren't human yadayadayada...
I think some chinese cultivation female power fantasy do have these topics tho. Just forgot which ones exactly
 

Moonpearl

The Yuri Empress
Joined
Dec 25, 2018
Messages
764
Points
133
The only one I can think of right now (beyond the usual amounts) is my own "Muirgen", but I think it's maybe not what you're searching for?

The MC is a man reborn as a noblewoman in a very strict, sexist society, and his father uses the excuse that a man would be able to achieve more than a woman with the same amount of talent to basically steal the credit for Muirgen's work. He also faces the issue of not really meeting everyone's expectations of what a woman should be.
It was a short story written to a tight deadline, though, and the real focus is the yuri, so I couldn't spend as much time on that section as I'd have liked.

The official description is:
On their sixth anniversary, an explosion stole their lives. Tristan was still reeling from the loss of his wife when he was reborn as Muirgen, the plain daughter of minor nobility.

In a flashy fantasy land that his brother would have drooled over, what was waiting for him was not a life of magic or easy glory, but exploitation at the hands of a father who legally owned him.

Just when he had lost all hope, an unexpected second chance arrives through a political marriage to the dark elf queen.

"Muirgen" is an atypical gender bender about grief, agency, and the art of learning to love again.

You can read it here, if it interests you: https://www.scribblehub.com/series/148315/muirgen-amp-other-tales/
 

Agasthenes

New member
Joined
Dec 9, 2020
Messages
5
Points
3
You can try Beneath the Dragoneye Moons, it's not exactly what you are looking for and I don't really like it that much even if it looked promising at the beginning but should fitt the bill well enough.
I think there are few of such novels because if you have a system that doesn't discriminate based on sex and give you stats, magic and so on as you progress, being woman no longer make you weaker and even the ground, so if woman are socially oppressed it means that they are less capable of taking advantage of the system or less prone to taking risks making so that overtime they got in a position to be oppressed even with a fair playing ground
My search was inspired by this story and by meta world chronicles ( Grandpa guo).

I don't think any coherent setting would be self conscious about its sexism until it is in the process of turing to the better. It would be just the way it is.

I disagree that a level playing field would lead to less sexism. IMHO a woman is just as capable as any man to make it in this world ( apart maybe from construction work or similar areas) therefore I would argue any society could be sexist.

And yes I want it to be a real factor in the story.

And no I don't want a Islamic bdsm wife setting. Wtf.

The only one I can think of right now (beyond the usual amounts) is my own "Muirgen", but I think it's maybe not what you're searching for?

The MC is a man reborn as a noblewoman in a very strict, sexist society, and his father uses the excuse that a man would be able to achieve more than a woman with the same amount of talent to basically steal the credit for Muirgen's work. He also faces the issue of not really meeting everyone's expectations of what a woman should be.
It was a short story written to a tight deadline, though, and the real focus is the yuri, so I couldn't spend as much time on that section as I'd have liked.

The official description is:
On their sixth anniversary, an explosion stole their lives. Tristan was still reeling from the loss of his wife when he was reborn as Muirgen, the plain daughter of minor nobility.

In a flashy fantasy land that his brother would have drooled over, what was waiting for him was not a life of magic or easy glory, but exploitation at the hands of a father who legally owned him.

Just when he had lost all hope, an unexpected second chance arrives through a political marriage to the dark elf queen.

"Muirgen" is an atypical gender bender about grief, agency, and the art of learning to love again.

You can read it here, if it interests you: https://www.scribblehub.com/series/148315/muirgen-amp-other-tales/
Thank you for the recommendation, I will check out.
 

MR.DANTE

Active member
Joined
Dec 15, 2020
Messages
68
Points
33
My search was inspired by this story and by meta world chronicles ( Grandpa guo).

I don't think any coherent setting would be self conscious about its sexism until it is in the process of turing to the better. It would be just the way it is.

I disagree that a level playing field would lead to less sexism. IMHO a woman is just as capable as any man to make it in this world ( apart maybe from construction work or similar areas) therefore I would argue any society could be sexist.

And yes I want it to be a real factor in the story.

And no I don't want a Islamic bdsm wife sett
 

The_Long_Serpent

Eccentric Creator
Joined
Dec 3, 2020
Messages
264
Points
63
I am wanting to make an isekai where the setting is based on Viking-Age Scandinavia. That has its fair share of discrimination.
 

MR.DANTE

Active member
Joined
Dec 15, 2020
Messages
68
Points
33
I don't know about any society being sexist, is depends on what is considered sexist. Nowadays looking at a woman it's sexist if she make it so so it really depend..
If it is about oppression in a fantasy world it's hard to justify if you make a magic system that's fair to everyone. Women had a significant disadvantage through history in providing and maintaining themselves, now the problem is no longer present since we are sufficiently advanced and a career driven woman can and will have the success she deserves. For making a solid background in a fantasy setting there should be some sort of disadvantage in for women to make the setting solid, most casual readers won't care tho so that's that to consider as well

P.S I read metaworld chronicle as well but I can't remember anything sexist there as well
 

Agasthenes

New member
Joined
Dec 9, 2020
Messages
5
Points
3
Gwen's grandpa doesn't care about her über Talent and even kinda forces her to give her little untalented brother a pendant that literally stops her own magic devouring her.
 
Top