Trolls..Little Rant haha...

kira

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It is just as likely that this person was following the story as a casual reader without an account, and may have made the account only recently, perhaps specifically to leave a review of your story. Saying "they didn't read it because they only made the account yesterday" is, imo, the wrong conclusion to draw. It seems more like this is a novel they were following for a while, but ultimately dropped and felt that they needed to leave a review for potential readers, not you, the author, explaining why.

Because they bring up at least one very valid point. If it's harem, it should be tagged harem. Everything else could be subjective, but CP vs NP is something people wanna know going in. Your story is TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR CHAPTERS. I verifiably cannot blame anyone for feeling frustrated to read that much only to realise they'd been critically misled.

Please amend your story tags.

Also, obviously, don't let negativity get you down. It's your story, if you're writing it to make yourself happy, write the story as you want it to exist. Writing the story may alienate some readers, but "fixing" the story to please specific random readers will just alienate yourself from your own work. Good luck!
You can only write a review if you are logged in/have a SH account!
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It is just as likely that this person was following the story as a casual reader without an account, and may have made the account only recently, perhaps specifically to leave a review of your story. Saying "they didn't read it because they only made the account yesterday" is, imo, the wrong conclusion to draw. It seems more like this is a novel they were following for a while, but ultimately dropped and felt that they needed to leave a review for potential readers, not you, the author, explaining why.

Because they bring up at least one very valid point. If it's harem, it should be tagged harem. Everything else could be subjective, but CP vs NP is something people wanna know going in. Your story is TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR CHAPTERS. I verifiably cannot blame anyone for feeling frustrated to read that much only to realise they'd been critically misled.

Please amend your story tags.

Also, obviously, don't let negativity get you down. It's your story, if you're writing it to make yourself happy, write the story as you want it to exist. Writing the story may alienate some readers, but "fixing" the story to please specific random readers will just alienate yourself from your own work. Good luck!
Critically misled..Hahahahaha Hahahahaha..READER BEWARE! YOU ARE ABOUT TO BE CRITICALLY MISLED! DO NOT ENTER! sorry but that is too funny..lot of assumptions in your reply..true only the reviewer knows how many chapters read..I stand with my *assumption* not more than a couple because no referencing any of plot or characters..well SH got one more member thanks to me anyway from your analysis..so that is good the site is awesomely awesome..❤
I am caught in the snowball effect..lololol
 
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I took offense to the fact they apparently read one chapter ..they joined yesterday and my stats said they were on chapter one.Then put *dropped* as though they read soooo many chapters and found it terrible. I think logically speaking (I saw review when I was having my morning coffee) that they did not read much of my story. Hey Im not saying I don't deserve criticism..but I like constructive criticism with examples. The review was vague and the really kinda nasty which is why I was upset. I write for pure fun and hope someone else smiles. I was in a mood yesterday because I recalled a story I really enjoyed and the author stopped writing because of trolling. I just think a review should be more specific not wahhhh this sucked..I don't think my story is gold by any means haha... but if you want to trash it dont randomly toss out s**t have some concrete reasons. '50 men' what a fn joke.I would love to question the person and find out if they actually read it..haha..not one character named not one scene...but of course being unable to retort is what is annoying.
So in your opinion it was a well written thought out review by someone who read more than 2 chapters? I don't think so..if someone has concrete examples and wants to call my story a POS I will accept their opinion and review. I am a Sustainability major not a professional writer.. But this review no.. HaHaja I must voice my dissatisfaction:blob_paint:
First I will just make it clear so there are no confusion, when I say "troll", I mean it as someone that does an action with intent to disrupt, where their action is not to share a genuine thought but to attack with maliciousness using twisted logic and either half truths or lies.

While I have not firmly said the reviewer is not a troll, since I can not corroborated what the reviewer said with out reading all 200+ chapter of your book. At the same time I have also not discounted the reviewer as genuine for the same reason. Since the idea of "one chapter / new account", is a hint; But, as far as internet goes, people have a tendency to protect themselves further they are sharing opinions that are criticizing something. And to go out of their way to make an account just to post that review show how strongly a person feel about the matter.

This is just an assumption, the question "troll or not" it really depends on the validity of the claim.

So in your opinion it was a well written thought out review by someone who read more than 2 chapters? I don't think so..
Is it a well written review? Short answer no, its ok I guess... Is it a "review"?
It depends on how far you want to read into it. In a massive amount of work you have written it is a tapestry of paths and narratives, to give a concrete example does are not necessary always possible for everyone that reads a story. Since most readers are not writers, or even writers might not know what went wrong, only what they feel.

But lets for a moment pretend we believe that review is a genuine feeling of a reader.

We can un-pack the review. it may not be a "good" review but one none the less.

"Dropped"
Reader have since stopped reading the novel, but was a reader for a certain amount of time.

But what was the reason for that?

"Story is good at the start, but author has dragged it on. There is little character development. All the FL does is prance around and try to hide her identity from the 50 male leads chasing her."

The 50 male leads can be chalked up to be a hyperbole, but it can be understood that the reader feel there was not enough development of the plot line for their sustained attention. "

So the question is what are the major plots? Does the story line force any change in the dynamics of the characters?
Does relationship between character develop and define make the characters better or worst version of themselves?
Do they overcame any problems? Are the stakes of the conflict varied or repetitive?

"The title was very misleading, I had assumed that the “CEO” was the main male lead (and who she’d end up with) but it turns out this is a full blown (reverse) harem. "

What role does the CEO take in the course of the story? is the CEO a major presence in the narrative or is it just a superficial garnish? If the CEO is a marginalized existence should it be in the title, is the story building up to the CEO's importance? is the CEO Important? Is it reflected in the story?

"The romance is lacking, there’s nothing romantic about this novel, because many of the “romantic” parts are just summaries of this and that. It felt like I was reading a summary of someone’s actions/point of view. (E.g. “She saw him, standing 180cm, his physique was toned”)."

This is a stylistic point of departure, the reader wanted more... romance. And this could not be understood clearly with out talking with the reviewer what they mean by romance, but from that comment, the reader find the romantic sense lacked "depth" or that it is not enough to have romance from physical appearance of people and wants more.

Also, the FL doesn’t really do anything with any of her male leads. There’s no real romance, just her toying with them, (as expected, because she has to hide her “real” identity), but it’s very unsatisfying as a reader :/, I wish the author hadn’t made everything so ambiguous. I mean we are 230 chapters into the novel and the plots still missing."

Again the reader wish for some thing more, more than what is offered.

"Please include a harem tag, I thought that the main relationship would be monogamous, but I was wrong. "

This one is pretty straight forward.

So in summary, the reviewer considers the Title " The CEO and His Little Bunny " to be the core of the story, and to this reader it should be about a CEO and a female lead, instead they felt the story was a revers harem with not clear development that did not move towards the development of the two's relationship. Further more, the reader wished for a romantic novel with single pairing, but was offered ambiguous non committal vague relationships.

At this is that I am taking the reviewers word for it. If I am the author, I would consider these following things.

How important is the CEO in my story? if he is not, should I change the title of the novel?

What are the stylistic choices in the romantic aspect of my story, is it prevalent? is it subtle? does it extrude romance? If the romance is not a strong aspect, if the comedic elements and action takes the center stage, would it be wise to consider removal of romance from the genre list? Or should the approach to how to tell the story be reconsidered?

Is it a harem? if it is add the tag? If romance is not the focus, and the relationship of multiple love interest is not important, should I add a slice of life tag? or a romantic subplot tag?


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So as I have said have not read your story, I have only read the review and your blurb. While I understand the frustration with being told something negative about your story, and feeling alike you are unsure what was wrong. At the same time, I wish to say that the reviewer, although not obligated to give a writer solutions, their feedback however minute as long as it carries a kernel of truth, one can discern what people feel about a story.

At this point you can say, concerning the repetitively of the plot

"Aye my story does have a interesting every evolving plotline with ever advancing stakes" the reviewer is wrong and I disagree

or

"My story does not need to so much variations, its like a sit-com, I will always reverting to status quo, simple "adventure of the week"

and if you have any other thought you'd change, how the story will develop in the future or rewrite what you got.

Either of which, the review may not be comprehensive and if points have any truth to it, is not a "troll" or useless.

I may be speaking out of turn, but I am just sharing my thoughts on unpacking reviews...
 

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First I will just make it clear so there are no confusion, when I say "troll", I mean it as someone that does an action with intent to disrupt, where their action is not to share a genuine thought but to attack with maliciousness using twisted logic and either half truths or lies.

While I have not firmly said the reviewer is not a troll, since I can not corroborated what the reviewer said with out reading all 200+ chapter of your book. At the same time I have also not discounted the reviewer as genuine for the same reason. Since the idea of "one chapter / new account", is a hint; But, as far as internet goes, people have a tendency to protect themselves further they are sharing opinions that are criticizing something. And to go out of their way to make an account just to post that review show how strongly a person feel about the matter.

This is just an assumption, the question "troll or not" it really depends on the validity of the claim.


Is it a well written review? Short answer no, its ok I guess... Is it a "review"?
It depends on how far you want to read into it. In a massive amount of work you have written it is a tapestry of paths and narratives, to give a concrete example does are not necessary always possible for everyone that reads a story. Since most readers are not writers, or even writers might not know what went wrong, only what they feel.

But lets for a moment pretend we believe that review is a genuine feeling of a reader.

We can un-pack the review. it may not be a "good" review but one none the less.

"Dropped"
Reader have since stopped reading the novel, but was a reader for a certain amount of time.

But what was the reason for that?



The 50 male leads can be chalked up to be a hyperbole, but it can be understood that the reader feel there was not enough development of the plot line for their sustained attention. "

So the question is what are the major plots? Does the story line force any change in the dynamics of the characters?
Does relationship between character develop and define make the characters better or worst version of themselves?
Do they overcame any problems? Are the stakes of the conflict varied or repetitive?

"The title was very misleading, I had assumed that the “CEO” was the main male lead (and who she’d end up with) but it turns out this is a full blown (reverse) harem. "

What role does the CEO take in the course of the story? is the CEO a major presence in the narrative or is it just a superficial garnish? If the CEO is a marginalized existence should it be in the title, is the story building up to the CEO's importance? is the CEO Important? Is it reflected in the story?



This is a stylistic point of departure, the reader wanted more... romance. And this could not be understood clearly with out talking with the reviewer what they mean by romance, but from that comment, the reader find the romantic sense lacked "depth" or that it is not enough to have romance from physical appearance of people and wants more.



Again the reader wish for some thing more, more than what is offered.



This one is pretty straight forward.

So in summary, the reviewer considers the Title " The CEO and His Little Bunny " to be the core of the story, and to this reader it should be about a CEO and a female lead, instead they felt the story was a revers harem with not clear development that did not move towards the development of the two's relationship. Further more, the reader wished for a romantic novel with single pairing, but was offered ambiguous non committal vague relationships.

At this is that I am taking the reviewers word for it. If I am the author, I would consider these following things.

How important is the CEO in my story? if he is not, should I change the title of the novel?

What are the stylistic choices in the romantic aspect of my story, is it prevalent? is it subtle? does it extrude romance? If the romance is not a strong aspect, if the comedic elements and action takes the center stage, would it be wise to consider removal of romance from the genre list? Or should the approach to how to tell the story be reconsidered?

Is it a harem? if it is add the tag? If romance is not the focus, and the relationship of multiple love interest is not important, should I add a slice of life tag? or a romantic subplot tag?


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So as I have said have not read your story, I have only read the review and your blurb. While I understand the frustration with being told something negative about your story, and feeling alike you are unsure what was wrong. At the same time, I wish to say that the reviewer, although not obligated to give a writer solutions, their feedback however minute as long as it carries a kernel of truth, one can discern what people feel about a story.

At this point you can say, concerning the repetitively of the plot

"Aye my story does have a interesting every evolving plotline with ever advancing stakes" the reviewer is wrong and I disagree

or

"My story does not need to so much variations, its like a sit-com, I will always reverting to status quo, simple "adventure of the week"

and if you have any other thought you'd change, how the story will develop in the future or rewrite what you got.

Either of which, the review may not be comprehensive and if points have any truth to it, is not a "troll" or useless.

I may be speaking out of turn, but I am just sharing my thoughts on unpacking reviews...
Thanks alot for your breakdown and thoughtful response! All valid points to be considered. I was really in a mood ... Do you ever wake up feeling great go for a run on a cool morning..thinking life is sweeeet! Then let something disrupt your chi as you have a cup of perfectly brewed Latte at your favorite outdoor cafe? Suddenly having a bitter taste in your mouth and way too much time on your hands?.. haha..that was me.. but it is Thursday now and another beautiful day...so I wish I could delete this thread haha..but I don't want to call any more attention to myself..I am usually lowkey and very chil I will blame my tirade on ...hmmmm..let me think..too much caffeine?
 

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Thanks alot for your breakdown and thoughtful response! All valid points to be considered. I was really in a mood ... Do you ever wake up feeling great go for a run on a cool morning..thinking life is sweeeet! Then let something disrupt your chi as you have a cup of perfectly brewed Latte at your favorite outdoor cafe? Suddenly having a bitter taste in your mouth and way too much time on your hands?.. haha..that was me.. but it is Thursday now and another beautiful day...so I wish I could delete this thread haha..but I don't want to call any more attention to myself..I am usually lowkey and very chil I will blame my tirade on ...hmmmm..let me think..too much caffeine?
Flushing it out is good too man. Do not bottle it up - or else that's a damning shortcut to the colorful world of the crazies.
 

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Flushing it out is good too man. Do not bottle it up - or else that's a damning shortcut to the colorful world of the crazies.

Somebody should make a rant thread
No matter how unreasonable, childish or common the worry is, you can just type a whole paragraph to vent your frustration with the assurance that no one will roast you like a BBQ chicken.
 

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Somebody should make a rant thread
No matter how unreasonable, childish or common the worry is, you can just type a whole paragraph to vent your frustration with the assurance that no one will roast you like a BBQ chicken.
True, just make sure that no one takes it personally since its a rant thread after all. :blob_uwu:
 
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