Self-Deprecation.... *Sigh* lets just do it.

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Actually, I am inspired to do this, not because I am forced, but because I want to do this. I took the job @Maple-Leaf-san so get your self-deprecating ass over here!

Okay, so I think self-deprecating is not something we all should hate. I mean why?

Okay, some of you might ask, what is self-deprecating?
"modest about or critical of oneself, especially humorously." Google
"Self-deprecation is the act of reprimanding oneself by belittling, undervaluing, or disparaging oneself, or being excessively modest. It can be used in humor and tension release." Wikipedia

So self-deprecating is all about critizing yourself. It's all about belittling and undervaluing. So @Maple-Leaf tell me why the fuck are you self-deprecating?!

Reason I am asking? The talent is being wasted here! I mean think of it as this. What if a self-deprecating person, let's take Maple-Leaf as an example, have a talent for arts or writing or stuff? Due to self-deprecating, this talent will be wasted since once we look at the meaning of self-deprecating, we'll see the words belittling and undervaluing.

Meaning? They're going to belittle their own talent so I suggest someone help Maple-Leaf, he or she might have a hidden talent.

Make her owe you and use that talent to your advantage.

So uh yeah, that's it. I just wanted to do this every once in a while. But I might do it in our [Me and My Friend]
podcast
so uh yeah, bye bye.
 

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True, I did it once for experiments and well, it's just that there are very very different responses I don't want to talk about. I don't even want to do this but my moral brain wants me to do it so here. A lesson about self-deprecating...
 

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Hello, I'm a co-author of a series here. I feel so useless when it comes to relaying sadness in our story. I read books that I teared up from that part and that... but when I tried making one, it feels generic.

Still, we write because we love it so, I'm sorry for our readers who kinda feel the lack of impact. I'm not sure if this is okay for self deprecation but I sometimes feel this when I'm releasing a chapter. XD

Some writers tend to write because they are depress. Maybe some use this form in a way to vent so atleast we could lent them some helping hand. Afterall, corona have cause many sufferings already.

- Zo
 

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I always self-depreciate myself since making my mind too "narrow" I don't learn things. I'm the curious type and most of the time people don't understand me because it's hard to grasp my pessimism RIP

Patience is the "key" here and it'll take time before others and I understand things... Perhaps this is what they're experiencing right now
 
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True, I did it once for experiments and well, it's just that there are very very different responses I don't want to talk about. I don't even want to do this but my moral brain wants me to do it so here. A lesson about self-deprecating...
When it comes to responding to a self-deprecating joke, most don’t don’t respond “rudely” with bad intentions, but, particularly when the person making the “joke” is someone you admire or are close with and you wouldn’t immediately think that they’re trying to fish for compliments, you agree with their statement thinking that it’s their sense of humor. Someone trying to fish for compliments (not always a bad thing, sometimes we all need some praise) could be startled by the stark contrast in expectations and react harshly, leading to an argument.

Personally, I think I have a hard time seeing value in the things I do and accomplish and tend to state things as I see them. I can make fun of myself in a completely serious tone because I don’t see a problem with that. I think I’ve realized that the way people see the things I do and the way I see them is different. “Maybe I’m better than I think I am” starts to come up more often. As I develop that mindset, the opposite occurs as well. Particularly on ScribbleHub, a place with people more knowledgeable, intelligent, funny, creative, and talented, than I could ever imagine myself being, and then it’s suddenly “I’m a whole lot worse than I think I am aren’t I?”
As a person prone to jealousy, (seriously it’s even concerning me at this point) It’s easier to enjoy myself if I imagine that I’m on an entirely path. Everyone else is majestically making their way up mount olympus, and I’m climbing up the garbage chute.



Or maybe this whole block of text is just an excuse for my emo phase.

My god I’ve said self-deprecating so many times today it’s starting to sound pretentious, bye.






Also,
I always self-depreciate myself since making my mind too "narrow" I don't learn things. I'm the curious type and most of the time people don't understand me because it's hard to grasp my pessimism RIP

Patience is the "key" here and it'll take time before others and I understand things... Perhaps this is what they're experiencing right now
Did you make that banner for your Isekai book???
 

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When it comes to responding to a self-deprecating joke, most don’t don’t respond “rudely” with bad intentions, but, particularly when the person making the “joke” is someone you admire or are close with and you wouldn’t immediately think that they’re trying to fish for compliments, you agree with their statement thinking that it’s their sense of humor. Someone trying to fish for compliments (not always a bad thing, sometimes we all need some praise) could be startled by the stark contrast in expectations and react harshly, leading to an argument.

Personally, I think I have a hard time seeing value in the things I do and accomplish and tend to state things as I see them. I can make fun of myself in a completely serious tone because I don’t see a problem with that. I think I’ve realized that the way people see the things I do and the way I see them is different. “Maybe I’m better than I think I am” starts to come up more often. As I develop that mindset, the opposite occurs as well. Particularly on ScribbleHub, a place with people more knowledgeable, intelligent, funny, creative, and talented, than I could ever imagine myself being, and then it’s suddenly “I’m a whole lot worse than I think I am aren’t I?”
As a person prone to jealousy, (seriously it’s even concerning me at this point) It’s easier to enjoy myself if I imagine that I’m on an entirely path. Everyone else is majestically making their way up mount olympus, and I’m climbing up the garbage chute.



Or maybe this whole block of text is just an excuse for my emo phase.

My god I’ve said self-deprecating so many times today it’s starting to sound pretentious, bye.






Also,

Did you make that banner for your Isekai book???
Bruh, you write more than I write for my stories on hiatus, go move your ass and tell us a story and stop the s-d.
Banner art should be from https://twitter.com/swd3e22?lang=en
 

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Bruh, you write more than I write for my stories on hiatus, go move your ass and tell us a story and stop the s-d.
Banner art should be from https://twitter.com/swd3e22?lang=en
I talk a lot, but don’t write well.
I’m not depressed or anything, I’m just bad at stating my point and blabber on continuously and usually end up going down dangerous rabbit holes.

My story so far is just a mass release as I fucking sprinted to the adventum contest deadline :sweating_profusely:. I haven’t been writing at all for like, two, three months. I feel bad for the people who think I post chapters 5 times a week... If I don’t get off my ass soon, that story will be forever stuck at seventeen chapters.

Thanks for the motivation though



...I’ll do it...eventually.
 
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I talk a lot, but don’t write well.
I’m not depressed or anything, I’m just bad at stating my point and blabber on continuously and usually end up going down dangerous rabbit holes.

My story so far is just a mass release as I fucking sprinted to the adventum contest deadline :sweating_profusely:. I haven’t been writing at all for like, two, three months. I feel bad for the people who think I post chapters 5 times a week... If I don’t get off my ass soon, that story will be forever stuck at seventeen chapters.

Thanks for the motivation though



...I’ll do it...eventually.
Better than me with a chapter every quartal or half a year.
 

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I would retort but...

oof well good luck.

*squeals* Also your art is really cool.
 

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I would retort but...

oof well good luck.

*squeals* Also your art is really cool.
Thank you

I would give you a walnut as a reward, but I’m selfish not a sell fish! Walnut is mine~~
 

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Look at the bright side, people can't use you if you're useless.
 

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Yeah I mean I once got a review on my novel where a guy was legit pissed that I upload so much according to the following logic

If I upload a lot and write a lot, it must mean that I think my writing is good.

Other authors who are actually good will fret and think and spend hours, days, months, and years worrying over whether something is good, and end up never uploading it.

Therefore, he was legit pissed that I uploaded so much, claiming that I was somehow taking the spotlight from these good authors.

There's not really a lesson here. If you think a ton on your work and believe that it's garbage, and are scared of it being garbage, then perhaps that will encourage you to work harder on it and make it really good, as opposed to someone like myself who produces a lot and believes it's good but it really isn't.

But don't withhold things forever I guess? Work. Work. Work. Edit. Edit. Edit. What's the saying? You can't edit words that haven't been written, or something like that. Don't just sit around scared. If you don't release at some point then you're just disappointing everyone. Something like that? If you are worrying a lot about your work then you're probably better than me, so stop saying you're garbage cause that means I'm even less than garbage.
 

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Actually, I am inspired to do this, not because I am forced, but because I want to do this. I took the job @Maple-Leaf-san so get your self-deprecating ass over here!

Okay, so I think self-deprecating is not something we all should hate. I mean why?

Okay, some of you might ask, what is self-deprecating?
"modest about or critical of oneself, especially humorously." Google
"Self-deprecation is the act of reprimanding oneself by belittling, undervaluing, or disparaging oneself, or being excessively modest. It can be used in humor and tension release." Wikipedia

So self-deprecating is all about critizing yourself. It's all about belittling and undervaluing. So @Maple-Leaf tell me why the fuck are you self-deprecating?!

Reason I am asking? The talent is being wasted here! I mean think of it as this. What if a self-deprecating person, let's take Maple-Leaf as an example, have a talent for arts or writing or stuff? Due to self-deprecating, this talent will be wasted since once we look at the meaning of self-deprecating, we'll see the words belittling and undervaluing.

Meaning? They're going to belittle their own talent so I suggest someone help Maple-Leaf, he or she might have a hidden talent.

Make her owe you and use that talent to your advantage.

So uh yeah, that's it. I just wanted to do this every once in a while. But I might do it in our [Me and My Friend]
podcast
so uh yeah, bye bye.
Even if a person is the next Michelangelo or Tolkien deep down, if they're too scaredy cat to display their talent then dont rely on me, at least, to motivate them. Aint no one motivate me, fam, so I aint gonna do it for anyone else. Not that i needed it, but still.

Fuck yall shy motherfuckers. Grow a pair and risk getting kicked in the 'nads like the rest of us, you cowards!

Ya aint scum because your talents are bad. You're scum because yall a buncha pussies.
 

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When someone says " I'm so useless/ worthless/ ugly/ etc" I just answer "well, yeah" and then they get actually depressed because they were just fishing for compliments.
Lets be frank, I actually have no one near me do fishing for compliments, because I will not entertain them. To me, you can be your own downer, I am like that to myself all the time, but if you expect me to cheer you up with cheap compliments, do me a solid and go away.

As for not knowing about writing and shit, just continue to write and write? I am abandoning creating a major arc with 50 plus chapters and sticking to only 20 plus. Kinda makes my life a breeze as I stuff my story with words like a xmas turkey.
 
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Sometimes self-depreciating is beneficial in a sense that it leads a creator in improving his/her work. The downside is when it gets too much and nothing comes out of it, save for wallowing in self-doubt.

I admit I self-depreciate sometimes, especially if the negative comments gets too much, like some readers demanding things I can't compromise with. But then, at the moment I'm going through that rough time, I'd stay away from my works (or I'll destroy it). An example of this was last time when I was unable to keep myself from ranting my frustrations. I logged off from SH for almost an entire day, because I might delete my work.

And hey, honestly I didn't expect messages of support. I was surprised that it actually happened.

So yeah, I recommend that if you're feeling down, stay away from your works for a while, while sorting out yourself. Sometimes, what you need is just a break from the negativity.

Oh and by the way, it's a different (but similar) matter if self-depreciation is for fishing for compliments. I think one of the root cause of that is the creator's insecurity about himself/herself.

Self-confidence is built over time. It is not something we acquire in one sitting. And one of the best ways to acquire it is to do small, yet successful things, like helping someone else. It's just an example, because every single one of us have different personalities and goals that contribute in building self-confidence. Mine's in helping fellow authors, or receiving good (or constructive) feedback on my story. For the latter part, I have two writing buddies whom I can count on when I'm writing.

It's best that we search for that 'morale booster' in ourselves and use that to build our confidence, so that we could quickly bounce back from self-depreciating moments.
 
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