Has anyone else learned to spot AI stories?

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It's always the same thing that gives them away. "It's not x, it's y" "They didn't do this, they did that". It aggravating to read over and over again. The AI can't seem to figure out how to describe something any other way. Has anyone else noticed
 

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With a high probability, it is easy to tell when a story was heavily influenced by AI - but it may be a translation, someone padding word count, or just someone being lazy and letting the machine do most of the work.
It is very difficult to tell which is the case, if the prompts were done well (badly done prompts give themselves away pretty quickly - but, even then, it could be an AI translation ... or, re-translation; there are a few audio novels on Pocket FM that suffer from this - the original was written in English, but then published in Japanese ... and an Indian company used AI to generate the English audio version from the Japanese one._), and sometimes it is a style situation that comes across as AI (I have a few sections of my own writing that feel, to me, more like AI than they should, even though 99% of it is my own work).

So, there is no 100% certain way to identify AI, at least in a single chapter or synopsis. For an entire work, it almost always becomes obvious, though.
 

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Instead of guessing from a vacuum, do a coherence test. Ask the authors why they used this word, sentence, or paragraph in their narrative? What is their function in the narrative?

Every word, sentence, or paragraph should have a narrative purpose in a scene.

If the authors can't answer, there are two possibilities: the narrative wasn't written by them or they simply lack experience in creative writing (often writers write scenes intuitively).

But determining whether it's truly AI or not is very difficult... even AI detectors don't claim to be accurate despite being trained on billions of AI-written datasets.

Simply put, as a reader, if you dislike their narrative, you can stop reading them at any time. :blob_melt:
 
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There is no way to know with 100% certainty, but there are tells.

First, and most importantly, more than any single stylistic element, AI text is repetitive. One use of "It's not X its Y" isn't terribly suspicious, but several in a row is. If there's one thing you take away from this post, let it be this.

Em dashes are another example. They can be used in place of just about any punctuation mark, and a large number of them is another red flag.

Another tell I've noticed is an overuse of rule of 3, especially in a very particular way. Again, rule of 3 is very common, but an overabundance is a solid tell. AI text tends to also follow a strict format of short, short, long. Here's an example I stripped from a synopsis: "...is soft-spoken, careful, and used to hiding her sparkly purple eyes and lavender ears behind silence." There are three beats, and the third is noticeably longer. Technically speaking I can't prove this was AI generated, but it really feels that way.

Also in the above example is another hallmark of AI text: strange metaphors. AI doesn't "know" what similes, metaphors, or analogies are, but it "knows" what they look like. These elements make sense if you breeze past them, but begin to fall apart if you look more closely.

Some AI text has a very choppy writing style. This manifests as an abundance of periods, sentences that start with "and" or "but," and sometimes even single words sentences. This style isn't out of place in dialogue, but usually is in narration.

Lastly, AI generated text has a certain vibe to it that is hard to give concrete examples of, but is noticeable, even if not consciously. This usually manifests in important details appearing or disappearing suddenly, or some plot elements getting unbalanced amounts of focus in text. It's almost impossible to give large scale examples, but it's something you can feel out.

Funnily enough, writing errors are a great indicator that something was written by a human. AI models won't misspell words, or use the wrong homophone, or accidentally add an extra space, or drop a word entirely. These mistakes can only happen by human hands.

There are several meta clues you can use too.

A fast upload schedule is can be suspicious. Some people like to build a backlog and then post all at once, but often, if someone is posting daily, or more than once a day, it can be an indicator to look more closely.

Profile activity can be another clue. How new is their account? Does this person comment often? Do they have a reasonable looking reading list? Again, none of these are damning. Having a new account, or being a lurker, or not reading very many fictions are fare from reliable indicators, but in conjunction with other details can increase your certainty.

An absence of AI images is a strong indicator that the work is made by a human. Some authors use AI images as placeholders, or just because they're poor, but if someone is using AI to generate their story, they're also the type of person to use AI to generate their images too. Writiers who pay commission art, or forgo it entirely out of refusal of using AI, almost certainly aren't generating their stories.

This essay's been bouncing around in my head for a while, glad to finally have an excuse to let it out. There are certainly some things I missed, but this will get you most of the way there.
 

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You don't.

And I don't think there's any need to check. A good story is a good story, and a bad story is a bad story; whether it's written by AI or humans, it doesn't matter.

If it were written by AI but was actually a high-quality work (which AI isn't capable of yet), then how would you evaluate it?
If you say that AI is inevitably incapable of writing good stories, that's Genetic Fallacy.

But if you really want to, I think you can look at the consistency and coherence of the content. AI often struggles to organize events properly and tends to mix up details from one character with another.
Or the fact that AI also tends to throw in a "moral lesson" at the end of the chapter, somehow.


 
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You don't.

And I don't think there's any need to check. A good story is a good story, and a bad story is a bad story; whether it's written by AI or humans, it doesn't matter.

If it were written by AI but was actually a high-quality work (which AI isn't capable of yet), then how would you evaluate it?
If you say that AI is inevitably incapable of writing good stories, that's Genetic Fallacy.

But if you really want to, I think you can look at the consistency and coherence of the content. AI often struggles to organize events properly and tends to mix up details from one character with another.


Once AI is capable of this, tech firms and governments will control all culture and human writers won't be needed or wanted except in highly specific cases.
 

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Once AI is capable of this, tech firms and governments will control all culture and human writers won't be needed or wanted except in highly specific cases.
Not necessarily, because this isn't a zero-sum game.


 

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I've also noticed that AI writing uses this weird comparison to describe everything, such as "he darted like a majestic bird atop the chinese mountains" or some stupid shit like this, and it is for almost everything.
As someone who uses Grok to fix my chapter grammars, I've mastered the usage of AI to improve my writing without rewriting it or making it sound alien, but I never really use it to write new paragraphs or chapters, though I do ask it how I could continue something I have no idea how to and then I apply that to my writing. I also use it for brainstorming new characters, factions, gods, weapons, skills, etc.
AI is a great tool honestly, and it has facilitated my writing even more, now I can concentrate on writing instead of taking hours editing tirelessly. But you have to know how to use it.
I love writing and I dont see it as a chore, so I will never ask AI to write a book for me. I believe the people that do this don't like writing and just want a quick way to earn money, which almost never works anyway. Readers aren't dumb and they know when a book is entirely AI generated and will not give a fuck about them.
 

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Instead of guessing from a vacuum, do a coherence test. Ask the authors why they used this word, sentence, or paragraph in their narrative? What is their function in the narrative?

Every word, sentence, or paragraph should have a narrative purpose in a scene.

If the authors can't answer, there are two possibilities: the narrative wasn't written by them or they simply lack experience in creative writing (often writers write scenes intuitively).

But determining whether it's truly AI or not is very difficult... even AI detectors don't claim to be accurate despite being trained on billions of AI-written datasets.

Simply put, as a reader, if you dislike their narrative, you can stop reading them at any time. :blob_melt:

Not willing to be mean or even criticize you, but you constantly grace AI stories with 100-1000-word reviews. I always feel so bad seeing that.

You can spot 99% of AI stories because the people writing them are so stupid, they 'create' a grammatically flawless story, but can't write a single sentence without countless mistakes.

People writing a non-capitalized "i" are 99% AI users.
You don't.

And I don't think there's any need to check. A good story is a good story, and a bad story is a bad story; whether it's written by AI or humans, it doesn't matter.

If it were written by AI but was actually a high-quality work (which AI isn't capable of yet), then how would you evaluate it?
If you say that AI is inevitably incapable of writing good stories, that's Genetic Fallacy.

But if you really want to, I think you can look at the consistency and coherence of the content. AI often struggles to organize events properly and tends to mix up details from one character with another.
Or the fact that AI also tends to throw in a "moral lesson" at the end of the chapter, somehow.



Your story is mostly AI-written as well, so I'll declare your entire argument moot, and I won't be gaslit into believing that it isn't.
I was excited by the theme, but after 3-4 chapters with that AI narration, I had to stop.
 

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AI is a great tool honestly, and it has facilitated my writing even more, now I can concentrate on writing instead of taking hours editing tirelessly. But you have to know how to use it.
I use AI to get feedback on my story.

It's always going to misinterpret things, overanalyze, or rely on clichés… and that's exactly what I need. I have to explain the story in detail to it, and that process helps me understand my own story better (since I have to put it into words).

And actually, sometimes the AI's feedback is surprisingly spot-on.


 

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I use AI to get feedback on my story.

It's always going to misinterpret things, overanalyze, or rely on clichés… and that's exactly what I need. I have to explain the story in detail to it, and that process helps me understand my own story better (since I have to put it into words).

And actually, sometimes the AI's feedback is surprisingly spot-on.


not always, I dont really treat AI as a person so I dont ask it for feedback or talk to it, to me its just a tool, and I can't think of its feedback as valuable because it is merely geneated from data taken away from the internet. I just ask my readers on patreon.
 

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Your story is mostly AI-written as well, so I'll declare your entire argument moot, and I won't be gaslit into believing that it isn't.
I was excited by the theme, but after 3-4 chapters with that AI narration, I had to stop.
Even if my story were written 100% by AI, that wouldn't make that argument any less valid. If you want to prove it wrong, refute it on its own merits; don't try to refute it by claiming the speaker is untrustworthy, that's a fallacy.

And yeah, if you think my story was mostly written by AI, I have to admit I have no way to prove otherwise, it's up to you :blob_awkward:


 

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It's always the same thing that gives them away. "It's not x, it's y" "They didn't do this, they did that". It aggravating to read over and over again. The AI can't seem to figure out how to describe something any other way. Has anyone else noticed
Well, it's true, but there are two even bigger giveaways in this: chapter length and long-term consistency.
Most LLMs struggle to write 3k+ word chapters without getting repetitive, and they almost always lose the plot after 10k words. If the characters and events stay perfectly consistent across a whole novel, it’s almost certainly human. While someone could use a Pro model and heavy prompting to fix this, at that point, it’s more work than just writing it themselves.
 

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I use AI to get feedback on my story.

It's always going to misinterpret things, overanalyze, or rely on clichés… and that's exactly what I need. I have to explain the story in detail to it, and that process helps me understand my own story better (since I have to put it into words).

And actually, sometimes the AI's feedback is surprisingly spot-on.



Uhm... you more or less already admitted it. Really, I don't see the use in arguing about it. So I won't "prove" how your story is AI. As much as you can claim it isn't, I can claim it is. Because I work with AI, I can instantly recognize your "narration."

Even if my story were written 100% by AI, that wouldn't make that argument any less valid. If you want to prove it wrong, refute it on its own merits; don't try to refute it by claiming the speaker is untrustworthy, that's a fallacy.

And yeah, if you think my story was mostly written by AI, I have to admit I have no way to prove otherwise, it's up to you :blob_awkward:



Frankly, I don't even mean any harm. I wanted to like your story, because it's a unique idea that I personally haven't seen in a story yet. Kinda like Haruhi Suzumiya meets Ace Attorney.

Your cover is great, your story idea is great, your blurb is cool, and your story does not contain any spelling errors or grammatical mistakes. It's clean!

Unique theme, unique setting, everything done right... the question is... why does nobody bother to read it? Just why? How can that be? :blob_hmm_two:

You know the answer, I know the answer, we all know it. :blob_evil:

It's what this thread is all about. As long as AI works how it currently does, it will ALWAYS be rejected by the readers. Readers can smell that bullshit. Readers are fine... even with MTL. They are fine with amateurish writing (such as my own) or with poorly written stories. What they are not fine with is AI. It's poison, it's excrement, it's worthless data.
Give it 5 years, and you might succeed with your approach... until then. No chance.

So you might as well admit it, and write like a human being, and turn your great idea for a story into an actual story. I see a lot of potential in your story.

If you want to hear actual details without calling me a liar, I can tell you the few key phrases and AI-ticks that always give it away. Even if you don't believe in AI scanners (which are almost all recognizing your story as majority AI), nobody writes like that, and it couldn't be more obvious.

Feel free to DM me on Discord or here if you really want to know and not just gaslight us.
 

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Unique theme, unique setting, everything done right... the question is... why does nobody bother to read it? Just why? How can that be? :blob_hmm_two:
This is a textbook example of a Non Sequitur fallacy. The conclusion simply does not follow from the premises. A thousand other factors could explain low initial views: a niche genre, a new author with zero followers, the whimsical nature of algorithms... But you skipped all of that and jumped straight to the most dramatic conclusion. It's great for fiction, not so much for a rational argument.

You asked why nobody bothers to read it? Well, someone did. The author of the current #1 story in the "Philosophical" category (On Honeyfeed) found it, read it, and left comments on every single chapter. I suppose he, as a human reader, didn't quite "smell that bullshit" you're talking about. So... the ones who enjoy philosophical debate seem to love it.

I write this story in my native language, Vietnamese first. Then I translate and adapt it into English. What kind of AI user would be insane enough to generate a story, then translate it from one language to another?

But of course, as I said before, you're free to believe what you want.


 
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Reading this thread is depressing, from both sides.
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I use AI to get feedback on my story.

It's always going to misinterpret things, overanalyze, or rely on clichés… and that's exactly what I need. I have to explain the story in detail to it, and that process helps me understand my own story better (since I have to put it into words).



That is (exactly) like going to a "cold reader" to tell your future. AI will ALWAYS put a positive spin on its critiques unless you force it not to. And yes, FORCE it.
A former movie critic turned writing teacher had AI do movie reviews in his style - except they were always positive and usually of movies that didn't actually exist, the review style was identical, to the point where he almost thought he HAD written one.
 
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