Femdom mafia

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How do you feel about femdom and femdom in the mafia? I often think about plots set in the present day without magic. Although it could also be done in the cyberpunk genre or in space, when magic is added, for some reason it feels to me that the seriousness of what is happening gets lost. However, in other book genres I have nothing against magic at all.
I think a powerful mafia in Mexico or Japan — although strong mafia organizations exist in many places. The plot I have in mind is about a very quiet, insecure guy who happens to possess useful skills or striking appearance and accidentally comes into contact with the mafia. He ends up with a woman who is the boss of the mafia; instead of killing him, she decides to play with him as if he were her favorite toy.
What do you think about all of this?
 

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How do you feel about femdom and femdom in the mafia? I often think about plots set in the present day without magic. Although it could also be done in the cyberpunk genre or in space, when magic is added, for some reason it feels to me that the seriousness of what is happening gets lost. However, in other book genres I have nothing against magic at all.
I think a powerful mafia in Mexico or Japan — although strong mafia organizations exist in many places. The plot I have in mind is about a very quiet, insecure guy who happens to possess useful skills or striking appearance and accidentally comes into contact with the mafia. He ends up with a woman who is the boss of the mafia; instead of killing him, she decides to play with him as if he were her favorite toy.
What do you think about all of this?

Personally, I hate anything other than just the lightest amount of Femdom, but it seems to have an audience.

However, this sounds like an interesting project and would fit nicely with the circle of people who enjoy the genre. Expand on the idea a bit, maybe make a couple of test chapters to see if it works.
 

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How do you feel about femdom and femdom in the mafia? I often think about plots set in the present day without magic. Although it could also be done in the cyberpunk genre or in space, when magic is added, for some reason it feels to me that the seriousness of what is happening gets lost. However, in other book genres I have nothing against magic at all.
I think a powerful mafia in Mexico or Japan — although strong mafia organizations exist in many places. The plot I have in mind is about a very quiet, insecure guy who happens to possess useful skills or striking appearance and accidentally comes into contact with the mafia. He ends up with a woman who is the boss of the mafia; instead of killing him, she decides to play with him as if he were her favorite toy.
What do you think about all of this?
Mexico doesn't have mafias; they have cartels. It's a different power structure.
 

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"Mexican mafia" is a really funny set of words you can only come up with if you've never actually been to Mexico. But whether it's a mafia or a cartel or whatever, they're only going to be "toying" with some random loser guy in a smut fantasy, so any "seriousness" don't matter. Look up what the cartels in Mexico do to people who owe them money. It would be a very different kind of R18 work.
 

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"Mexican mafia" is a really funny set of words you can only come up with if you've never actually been to Mexico. But whether it's a mafia or a cartel or whatever, they're only going to be "toying" with some random loser guy in a smut fantasy, so any "seriousness" don't matter. Look up what the cartels in Mexico do to people who owe them money. It would be a very different kind of R18 work.
Yeah... Loved the day before we came into Veracruz one day... the cartels had beheaded 40 people the day before.

Let's just say it wasn't safe for us to be too terribly far from the ship.
 

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Add in surgically enforced gender-bender and that seems like the direction Netflix's "Back Street Girls" anime was heading in (the potential "femdoms" were male yakuza who screwed up and were turned into "idols" by their boss...).
 

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femdom has a history.

handcuffs and riding crops always *did* get giggles out of everyone for naughty jokes.
and that goes back a while.
and, when its the girl doing it to the guy, it always got *more* giggles.

if you go back to historical naughty stories, there were two places to read girl spanks guy stories.
one, was the "adult shops". We always called them "naughty book stores".
one of the things they used to sell, was, naughty books.

femdom was always one of the popular categories.

then, Penthouse.
they always had naughty stories every issue, and femdom was a popular story style.
they would put out "collection" magazines every so often.
collections of penthouse stories. editor's picks, reader voted favorites.
there were always femdom stories featured prominently in every collection.

go figure in today's world, what was once popular in adult shops, naughty paperbacks,
is popular online and when people can read/download in secret on the internet.
as a smut category, it has its loyal fanbase
also, people that don't DO IT, still read about it and find it spicy.

my informal research, says that its not a huge segment of the market
but that the fan base shows exceptional loyalty and staying power.
its a niche.
 

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How do you feel about femdom and femdom in the mafia? I often think about plots set in the present day without magic. Although it could also be done in the cyberpunk genre or in space, when magic is added, for some reason it feels to me that the seriousness of what is happening gets lost. However, in other book genres I have nothing against magic at all.
I think a powerful mafia in Mexico or Japan — although strong mafia organizations exist in many places. The plot I have in mind is about a very quiet, insecure guy who happens to possess useful skills or striking appearance and accidentally comes into contact with the mafia. He ends up with a woman who is the boss of the mafia; instead of killing him, she decides to play with him as if he were her favorite toy.
What do you think about all of this?
Mexico's mafia is cartel, they operate differently yet identical.

If you want to write a mafia femdom novel, then I suggest doing research about the underworld criminal organizations. There are a lot of hierarchy roles set in a fixed structure there, like racketeers and whatnot.

See which of the roles would best fit the male and the female.

I'll be looking forward to it.
 

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Add in surgically enforced gender-bender and that seems like the direction Netflix's "Back Street Girls" anime was heading in (the potential "femdoms" were male yakuza who screwed up and were turned into "idols" by their boss...).
I understand that what you're saying is a joke. But if you actually think about it, a really hardcore domination plot would be if a female mafia boss performed surgery on a guy without his consent and without full anesthesia, while at the same time explaining everything in detail, showing him the process and pointing things out on the monitor.


Although I’ve heard there are already quite a lot of female characters who enjoy experimenting on people. Maybe this theme isn’t actually that new?


What do you think about it?
Does this challenge my joke statement in any way? No, it doesn't matter.
Sorry, no problem at all. I just wanted to say that it’s an interesting fact. I actually speak in another language, and sometimes I find it hard to translate wordplay / puns.
 
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I'll probably disappoint you, but female mafia bosses really did exist and still exist today. Did you know that?
IIRC, they're more common in the "Russian Mafia" than in the true La Casa Nostra but do happen in both.

I understand that what you're saying is a joke. But if you actually think about it, a really hardcore domination plot would be if a female mafia boss performed surgery on a guy without his consent and without full anesthesia, while at the same time explaining everything in detail, showing him the process and pointing things out on the monitor.


Although I’ve heard there are already quite a lot of female characters who enjoy experimenting on people. Maybe this theme isn’t actually that new?


What do you think about it?
Nah, I mean the anime looked like the three idiots who were literally men in women's bodies were going to eventually take over the Yakuza accidentally (every advance they made was by accident) - the series seemed headed that way, at least. And they had already helped elevate the estranged wife of their boss to the effective head of a different group - until they accidentally brought the two back together.
Though possibly the funniest moment was when one of the MCs tries to make contact with the father who tried to talk him out of joining the yakuza - and finds out his father's main reason for leaving was ... he wanted to live as a woman. Not get surgery, just basic crossdressing.
 

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Mexico doesn't have mafias; they have cartels. It's a different power structure.
It might seem funny that I’m replying after all this time. Sorry, I’ve just been busy. But I do know about the cartels—it's just that in my native language, the words 'cartel' and 'mafia' are pretty much the same thing.
 

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It might seem funny that I’m replying after all this time. Sorry, I’ve just been busy. But I do know about the cartels—it's just that in my native language, the words 'cartel' and 'mafia' are pretty much the same thing.
I see, in English we do like to differentiate between gangs structured like a business (the first mafia was created by an accountant and was very corporate) and a gang structured like a military (cartels found it to be the most efficient way to keep all these decentralized farmers and smugglers organized).
 

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Personally, I hate anything other than just the lightest amount of Femdom, but it seems to have an audience.

However, this sounds like an interesting project and would fit nicely with the circle of people who enjoy the genre. Expand on the idea a bit, maybe make a couple of test chapters to see if it works.
Actually, I think any genre has potential.
I see, in English we do like to differentiate between gangs structured like a business (the first mafia was created by an accountant and was very corporate) and a gang structured like a military (cartels found it to be the most efficient way to keep all these decentralized farmers and smugglers organized).
You probably live in the US, Mexico, or Canada, right? Did I guess it? To you, Mexican cartels probably sound like something terrifying and serious. In the same way, we don't really like it when people talk about the 90s mafia from the former USSR.

It's funny—I didn't realize it would spark such strong opinions here. Actually, I’ve been interested in Mexican cartels for many years and know quite a bit about them. In fact, I know a lot about organized crime in various countries. But, of course, I wouldn’t risk mentioning their real names in my fictional or humorous works.
Yeah... Loved the day before we came into Veracruz one day... the cartels had beheaded 40 people the day before.

Let's just say it wasn't safe for us to be too terribly far from the ship.
If I were to say something serious on the subject, I’d say it’s a pretty complex structure, and killing everyone indiscriminately isn't actually profitable for them. From what I’ve heard, among people living in Mexico, a regular driver, mechanic, IT specialist, or anyone else might also work for a cartel while living right next door to everyone else, and that's considered normal—that's just how they all live. It’s more like an entire country than just a group of criminals.

You’re right, the terms 'Mexican cartels' and 'mafia' aren't the same thing. In my language, the distinction isn't that important, but I understand what you’re getting at.
Thank you! As you can see, I'm still working on it.
femdom has a history.

handcuffs and riding crops always *did* get giggles out of everyone for naughty jokes.
and that goes back a while.
and, when its the girl doing it to the guy, it always got *more* giggles.

if you go back to historical naughty stories, there were two places to read girl spanks guy stories.
one, was the "adult shops". We always called them "naughty book stores".
one of the things they used to sell, was, naughty books.

femdom was always one of the popular categories.

then, Penthouse.
they always had naughty stories every issue, and femdom was a popular story style.
they would put out "collection" magazines every so often.
collections of penthouse stories. editor's picks, reader voted favorites.
there were always femdom stories featured prominently in every collection.

go figure in today's world, what was once popular in adult shops, naughty paperbacks,
is popular online and when people can read/download in secret on the internet.
as a smut category, it has its loyal fanbase
also, people that don't DO IT, still read about it and find it spicy.

my informal research, says that its not a huge segment of the market
but that the fan base shows exceptional loyalty and staying power.
its a niche.
Can I ask for a clarification? Are you writing about what happened in the past, or were you actually there yourself?
"Mexican mafia" is a really funny set of words you can only come up with if you've never actually been to Mexico. But whether it's a mafia or a cartel or whatever, they're only going to be "toying" with some random loser guy in a smut fantasy, so any "seriousness" don't matter. Look up what the cartels in Mexico do to people who owe them money. It would be a very different kind of R18 work.
You're right, I've never been to Mexico, and I'm not sure I'd even want to go.
Mexico's mafia is cartel, they operate differently yet identical.

If you want to write a mafia femdom novel, then I suggest doing research about the underworld criminal organizations. There are a lot of hierarchy roles set in a fixed structure there, like racketeers and whatnot.

See which of the roles would best fit the male and the female.

I'll be looking forward to it.
Actually, a woman can be a leader—there have been many such cases, more than a few times. Although, I don't necessarily have to write about the heads of the entire mafia. Usually, they are older people, but then again, I could make them young. After all, it's just fiction.
IIRC, they're more common in the "Russian Mafia" than in the true La Casa Nostra but do happen in both.
No, in the 90s mafia and the former USSR countries, there are practically no women at all. I speak Russian and have heard a lot about this, so I can say with near certainty that they aren't there. Based on well-known historical cases, the largest numbers of them were in Mexico and Italy, though there might have been others elsewhere.
 
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