I stopped using ChatGPT and the likes for things such as writing ideas and whatnot

[Tetrahedron]

Something that took me a long time to realize it's incredibly unhealthy to constantly talking to an advanced chatbot. It ruined my writing cycle and oftentimes it will draw you into a worldbuilding rabbit hole or making yourself reading something that's actually not your style to write down.

While there's definitely nothing wrong to use ChatGPT or Claude or DeepSeek or even Proximity (basically any LLMs) to assess and refine or maybe doing further proofreading, there is a tendency to make you suddenly relying heavily on these tools, and soon it'll spread into the moment you just... said things you really want to write, but didn't wrote it down.

Again, there's nothing wrong on using LLM to help yourself in writing, it's just that you gotta use them moderately, otherwise you're as good as procrastinating and not writing anything.

Lastly, whoever read this piece of rant I wrote, thank you so much for taking your time. I know many won't care, but again, I appreciate all the attention you give with my first thread.

EDIT: I think I should move this to Writing General, though I don't know how

 

[McPhoenixDavid]

Not sure what you mean by talking with AIs. You mean for time pass? Or learning?

For education, I use Google AI, I ask questions, it replies, that's it. But often time I find that it makes errors, major ones. Like that day it made a false statement regarding an article of the constitution, a made up article. Imagine using this in your papers. So I always do manual research after using AI.

Also, I am genuinely cringed with how much CharacterAI ads I get literally on every app, everyday, it baffles me with how much time people spend on it.

 

[CYY]

I cannot agree enough. Chatbots, they remove what makes every story unique and different - the author's soul. Personally I would hate to read a story entirely created by AI, their sentences may be fancy and polished, but they lack the human aspect of writing.

 

[Wamba2K]

I used to use chatGPT. I would give it chapters or scenes and tell it to: "rip this scene apart." Or: "Brutally criticize this draft" but it would always just give backwards compliments and nothing substantial. Just seemed like a waste of time. ?‍

 

[Tetrahedron]

Not sure what you mean by talking with AIs. You mean for time pass? Or learning?

I guess it's for both. It's genuinely a bad kind of time sink that once you engage a little further, you'll never realize how deep you go until you got hit with a warning that your limit on using a model has been reached and you're left with... nothing but waiting.

 

[GENSHI]

Something that took me a long time to realize it's incredibly unhealthy to constantly talking to an advanced chatbot. It ruined my writing cycle and oftentimes it will draw you into a worldbuilding rabbit hole or making yourself reading something that's actually not your style to write down.

While there's definitely nothing wrong to use ChatGPT or Claude or DeepSeek or even Proximity (basically any LLMs) to assess and refine or maybe doing further proofreading, there is a tendency to make you suddenly relying heavily on these tools, and soon it'll spread into the moment you just... said things you really want to write, but didn't wrote it down.

Again, there's nothing wrong on using LLM to help yourself in writing, it's just that you gotta use them moderately, otherwise you're as good as procrastinating and not writing anything.

Lastly, whoever read this piece of rant I wrote, thank you so much for taking your time. I know many won't care, but again, I appreciate all the attention you give with my first thread.

EDIT: I think I should move this to Writing General, though I don't know how

Good call. AI kills creativity.

 

[Eldoria]

At least AI can help you find your fiction on the internet and evaluate the SEO of your fiction among thousands of fiction.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

The most useful AI assistant I've found so far (granted I've only barely dabbled with two - but my little brother has tested several and finds them all fun but lacking) is the one I had a chance to alpha test partially (but they had too many applicants for the beta test and I'm waitlisted there) for Pocket FM.
I only liked about 1/5 of its suggestions beyond grammar and word-order stuff (about 95% of those were spot-on) but it also made it easy to add in sound effects and music...

 

[Corty]

It's not a tool to use to create, but to organize what you have created. You don't ask it to fill your world, but ask it to help you organize your own ideas and designs. It's the greatest tool for creating my glossary, and now I don't need to spend a day just organizing my shit; it can do it for me and help me find stuff I've already put into it.

 

[Gray_Mann]

I'll just be glad when people are done crying about AI. It's not going anywhere, whether it grows and improves or not. The genie is out of the bottle. You're not putting it back in. Why do people need to make a spectacle of it? You're not influencing anything by it.

You're not suddenly gaining some "moral points" for denying/refusing to use it. You're not a better or worse person for making such a inconsequential decision such as this. So why broadcast this? Who was this post for?

It's like the virtue-signalling that Lib-Weirdoes on reddit/bluesky do. Why bother?

 

[Humanistheart]

I'll just be glad when people are done crying about AI. It's not going anywhere, whether it grows and improves or not. The genie is out of the bottle. You're not putting it back in. Why do people need to make a spectacle of it? You're not influencing anything by it.

You're not suddenly gaining some "moral points" for denying/refusing to use it. You're not a better or worse person for making such a inconsequential decision such as this. So why broadcast this? Who was this post for?

It's like the virtue-signalling that so-called Lib-Weirdoes on reddit/bluesky do. Why bother?

Virtue signaling! Yes! That’s the phrase for it. I saw at a few comic ins they’re banning ai art merch and people were all on their high horse talking about taking away from “artists” and im thinking if their overpriced bs can’t compete with ai so be it. It’s like protecting the milk man or telegraph workers jobs. Just accept things are going to change.

 

[Xeoz]

Just recently learned how to use it because my work right now forces me to use it... So got no choice. In terms of writing, I feel like it could be useful if you have writer's block or brainstorming ideas. And the organization, my god, it's so helpful. My power system was all over the place when I created it. Now, it's organized because of it, even laid some plot points and some logical points, which is quite helpful to streamline everything.

 

[Gray_Mann]

im thinking if their overpriced bs can’t compete with ai so be it. It’s like protecting the milk man or telegraph workers jobs. Just accept things are going to change.

That's exactly my viewpoint.

 

[IWILLDEFYTHEHEAVENS]

Almost a year ago, I was adamant on using Chatgpt, even when experienced authors warn people of the dangers, I didn't believe it and kept sending my scripts to it to refine.

But now, I stopped using it all together, whether refining, proofreading, fight scenes or heaven defying character.
I don't brainstorm with it anymore as well.

Why?

Because anytime I read my book, I feel like it's not me, all the emotions I poured into it was never there, I feel like the book I have been spending my time and energy into writing wasn't mine.
Moreover, I became lax and stopped being creative, I couldn't think for myself.

It's been several months now that I stopped using it and I can say that the improvement was massive.
Left with no one or anything to help me, I had to struggle to get better and write something good.

Where I couldn't write a single chapter without help before, I have written more than 100k words all by myself, and when I read it, I can feel my soul in it.

To anyone still heavily depending on AI, try and improve while using it and write something that has your voice, soul and everything you are.

 

[Cardon]

Virtue signaling! Yes! That’s the phrase for it. I saw at a few comic ins they’re banning ai art merch and people were all on their high horse talking about taking away from “artists” and im thinking if their overpriced bs can’t compete with ai so be it. It’s like protecting the milk man or telegraph workers jobs. Just accept things are going to change.

Maybe promptcels should make an AI slop convention instead of crying about conventions intended for artists not letting the slop in?

 

[Bartun]

I haven't used AI because I'm a hard-working and honest person.

And I don't know how.

 

[N0xiety]

Even just putting your writing into AI to refine it, i feel takes everything that make your writing unique away, it feels like the writing lacks soul or something.

I'm honestly sick of seeing the 'refined' style that developed in the web novel scene in the last year or two that makes most new web novels feel like written by clones now. Many new writers i have seen are writing web novels as if they are literature masterpieces, so polished and fancy, or they think they are. To me it just looks like excessive amount filler with lots of metaphors, similes etc., oh so flowery and refined. It actually makes it a chore to read tbh, and sometimes don't even make sense, but AI seems to love refining by adding lots and lots of unnecessary padding. And somehow people started to think that the more flowery and complex you make it, the better your writing, it makes no sense...

 

[Humanistheart]

Just recently learned how to use it because my work right now forces me to use it... So got no choice. In terms of writing, I feel like it could be useful if you have writer's block or brainstorming ideas. And the organization, my god, it's so helpful. My power system was all over the place when I created it. Now, it's organized because of it, even laid some plot points and some logical points, which is quite helpful to streamline everything.

If it’s not too much personal info, I’m curious what your job is that requires its use.

Maybe promptcels should make an AI slop convention instead of crying about conventions intended for artists not letting the slop in?

Wow combining an ableist root suffix and whining about outmoderned jobs. And crying? You sound like a Republican YouTube troll. I expect better from people here on scribblehub. Well I’ve never done this before but if there’s a way of blocking your bigoted behind I’ll be doing it.

 

[Cardon]

Wow combining an ableist root suffix

Comedy gold for the evening, thank you.

And why so against the AI slop convention? Shouldn't they out-compete the artists which you put into quotation marks? What's the problem, buddy?

 

[writerwolf359]

With AI, we're going to have to refine Sturgeon's Law to "99.9% of everything is crap."