What makes you love your fiction?

RuneKnight3

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I've done four songs that way so far. I know there are people opposed to AI whether it's the inclusion of a song or an image but I don't care. If someone has that much of a hangup about it, this is stuff I'm doing from my games. I'm not hiring an artist and a band for an anthology of stuff that comes from my game.

Not my hangups.

Not my problem.

If my foot lands somewhere, it lands.
I've used it to generate more than one song for the fictional werewolf metal band Lightning Bolt and I am occasionally tempted to shill out and pay for the service so I can turn a Lightning Bolt album onto spotify or somesuch.
 
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I've got a unique voice and occupy a set of intersections that no one else does. I'm a jack of all trades IRL with an eclectic set of interests, inspirations, and experiences across different mediums. No one else was going to write what I am, and I couldn't find anyone close enough to doing so to satisfy my creative impulses.

Writing lets me portray all of those. I get to bring my authentic self to my work and move from "friends tell me I come up with cool-ass stories and some comparisons no one has thought of before" to "pouring my brain out onto a screen and shaping that into a narrative"

Also, my depictions of sex and love and romance have deepened dramatically as I've dated and loved and now been married for nearly a decade. My understanding of fight scenes are deepened by my martial arts experience. My dialogue is informed by my life. I never have to wonder if I am fraudulent about the things I write. I know what I want to bring to life. Now I just have to push things around in my life to make consistent room to plan them out and write them down.
 

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I've done four songs that way so far. I know there are people opposed to AI whether it's the inclusion of a song or an image but I don't care. If someone has that much of a hangup about it, this is stuff I'm doing from my games. I'm not hiring an artist and a band for an anthology of stuff that comes from my game.

Not my hangups.

Not my problem.

If my foot lands somewhere, it lands.
If I ever find the flash drive that held a story I started a few years ago, about a guy who's effectively a half-elf government agent fighting extradimensional threats - but who's "day job" is as a country artist, I might use Suno to create some of his songs... But the odds of finding that drive are slim, sadly.
 

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I've got a unique voice and occupy a set of intersections that no one else does. I'm a jack of all trades IRL with an eclectic set of interests, inspirations, and experiences across different mediums. No one else was going to write what I am, and I couldn't find anyone close enough to doing so to satisfy my creative impulses.

Writing lets me portray all of those. I get to bring my authentic self to my work and move from "friends tell me I come up with cool-ass stories and some comparisons no one has thought of before" to "pouring my brain out onto a screen and shaping that into a narrative"

Also, my depictions of sex and love and romance have deepened dramatically as I've dated and loved and now been married for nearly a decade. My understanding of fight scenes are deepened by my martial arts experience. My dialogue is informed by my life. I never have to wonder if I am fraudulent about the things I write. I know what I want to bring to life. Now I just have to push things around in my life to make consistent room to plan them out and write them down.
This is the way
 

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If I ever find the flash drive that held a story I started a few years ago, about a guy who's effectively a half-elf government agent fighting extradimensional threats - but who's "day job" is as a country artist, I might use Suno to create some of his songs... But the odds of finding that drive are slim, sadly.
A country artist?

Man, could I ever have some fun with something like that.

I tried to write an entire country album once.

One of the songs began with "She replaced all the china with paper plates"

...needless to say, I didn't think it was all that promising.
I've used it to generate more than one song for the fictional werewolf metal band Lightning Bolt and I am occasionally tempted to shill out and pay for the service so I can turn a Lightning Bolt album onto spotify or somesuch.
I've heard these songs, peeps and yeah, I'm kinda thinking the same.

I don't know if anyone else would like a discography of Nocturnal Shadows though.

My biggest complaint with Suno and other AI apps; inconsistency. I do explain that the vocals should be male, deep, hypnotic, and baritone but it gives me choral, metal and even female at times.
 

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A country artist?

Man, could I ever have some fun with something like that.

I tried to write an entire country album once.

One of the songs began with "She replaced all the china with paper plates"

...needless to say, I didn't think it was all that promising.

I've heard these songs, peeps and yeah, I'm kinda thinking the same.

I don't know if anyone else would like a discography of Nocturnal Shadows though.

My biggest complaint with Suno and other AI apps; inconsistency. I do explain that the vocals should be male, deep, hypnotic, and baritone but it gives me choral, metal and even female at times.
AI is at times like a child that wants to impress you by guessing what you want... no matter how clearly you spelled it out, it still guesses....
 

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AI is at times like a child that wants to impress you by guessing what you want... no matter how clearly you spelled it out, it still guesses....
I had that frustration with Grok awhile back. The images he made of Draven, he actually landed one of them. This was the only one that became the prototype for how Draven Nocturne actually looks. NightCafe has had better and more consistent results.
 

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This is the way
Thank you.

I get caught between "knowing what I want to write" and "doing so in a clear, effective way the entertains and engages readers."
Like, it's great that I know what I want to write, but I want to improve my ability to tell stories that enthrall or arouse or excite.
And none of that lines up perfectly with "attracting readers."

It's a mess and it's easy for me to second guess myself.
But my wife occasionally reminds me that none of those other things happen if I don't enjoy (my) writing enough to keep at it and improve. It doesn't matter if a new reader finds my story in 6 weeks or 6 years from now. The most important question is "is it abandoned? Is it finished?" That's one only I can answer.

so yeah, I love what I write cause I have to to write it.
 

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When reading other works of fiction, the things I like least are characters who are overly whiny, who feel compelled to do good without sufficient justification, who always seem to need the author’s intervention just to earn attention from the opposite sex, and the idea that stupidity and brute force always solve everything. These are the things I deliberately avoid in my own work (or at least, I hope I do), and perhaps that is what I like most about my writing.
 

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When reading other works of fiction, the things I like least are characters who are overly whiny, who feel compelled to do good without sufficient justification, who always seem to need the author’s intervention just to earn attention from the opposite sex, and the idea that stupidity and brute force always solve everything. These are the things I deliberately avoid in my own work (or at least, I hope I do), and perhaps that is what I like most about my writing.
The stupidity and brute force on the part of my character Ronnie "Red" Darlton has a good reason behind it. Magic doesn't and didn't enhance his life; it destroyed it. Right now, unless there's a motivating force for him to change things, he's always a breath away from being dead broke most of the time and he has to chase cases in order to make anything. The stupidity and brute force of a character isn't just always something surface level, it can be something for them to work past but that depends largely on the factors that drive them.

RuneKnight once said something to me when we were dicussing the movie The Crow that really stuck with me. He mentioned that in the end, Eric is still a bloodthirsty revenant seeking revenge. He goes after bad guys and we like that. He kills those bad guys and we're okay with that. The world isn't better because of it though. Now there's a power vacuum and the crime will be worse, drugs will still flood the streets. Out with the old, in with the new, right? What stuck with me was the idea that, even if Ronnie saves the girl, even if his investigative skills work, he has external factors working against him and he has to do the best he can with what he knows. He doesn't and can't make the world better. That's the knife in the heart for him.

An East-Texas Cowboy Warlock traveling the country astride a Harley Fatboy he named Blue Belle, he's not going to be the paragon of intellect or virtue and soon, you'll see why.
 
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