new genre or tags for non a.i assisted books

[Deleted member 206441]

New genre or tags for novels

[A.I. Edited]

[Human Edited]

Or [non-A.I. Edited]

 

[Dec]

Something similar was already proposed;

Update content warnings to include AI usage

As per Scribble Hub's content guidelines, stories that consist primarily of AI-generated content are prohibited, although the use of AI is not strictly banned. The pertinent rule states: AI Generated Stories - Stories created mostly by AI will be rejected. You can use AI to help create your...

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[Deleted member 206441]

Something similar was already proposed;

Update content warnings to include AI usage

As per Scribble Hub's content guidelines, stories that consist primarily of AI-generated content are prohibited, although the use of AI is not strictly banned. The pertinent rule states: AI Generated Stories - Stories created mostly by AI will be rejected. You can use AI to help create your...

forum.scribblehub.com

That was three months ago! After so many "Breaking News", I don't remember anything in the forgotten age of man.

 

[DireBadger]

I disagree, because it would involve too much nitpicking, and could justify hate.

I read my books to my wife as I write them. If she thinks something is terrible, I edit or remove it. Does that mean I need to put her on the author list? How about editor or rearranger?

Nope, AI tools are just a fact of life. I have snarky characters, and sometimes when I am running out of nasty comments to make, I might look online or use an AI. (Can you come up with a nasty non-profane common-use vernacular other than 'cuckold' for someone who refuses to be an attentive enough husband to the point his mate has to seek attention elsewhere?) (Can you find the weak spots in my vernacular that I might be too close to the product to notice, so I can re-write them?) If I quote Rodney Dangerfield but having my character joke about not getting any respect, do I have to write a credit to him? How about if I use a spellchecker?

This AI panic is mostly caused by third-rate producers that can be easily replaced by a machine. If you don't like it, get better or find a different job. No one listens to coolies complaining about horses stealing their jobs.

In point of fact, I think AI has made good writers better, and not-good writers much worse.

 

[Deleted member 206441]

AI tools are just a fact of life.

Which is why it's better to assume all things written are AI-edited....
except when it is tagged [Human Edited] or [non-A.I. Edited]

I am free to assume that when your fiction is soulless, everything you write is A.I. Generated, A.I. reworded, and A.I. edited unless you explicitly say otherwise.

How about editor or rearranger?

Probably... as a dedication, or acknowledgements or a forward. People usually do that at the start of the book.

AI has made good writers better, and not-good writers much worse

Why not let people know? It's better to prove the point that... e.g. "this is A.I. assisted, and it's better than anything non-A.I. assisted writers can do."

Isn't that a better way to normalise it?

 

[Lysander_Works]

We need a tag now just to show that we don't use A.I.?
Nah, force AI users to use an AI tag instead.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Nah, force AI users to use an AI tag instead.

It is impossible and thus less productive.

 

[LeilaniOtter]

I have a great genre name for them:

Legitimate.

 

[Deleted member 206441]

I have a great genre name for them:

Legitimate.

The point is not to stigmatized a.i. tools.

E.g
If Grammerly rephrase your sentence to make it grammatically correct, it will read like a.i

If you use a.i to generate prose it will read like a.i.

If you use a.i. to edit it will read like a.i.

If you generate a book using a.i. it will read like a.i.

And most importantly.

If you read nothing but translated web novels, which are themselves machine translates, machine edited, aka. A.i. produce. and you in turn absorbed the way it writes, you, with out any a.i. input will write like an a.i.

If a.i. style is the norm.

It better to let human style have a tag but not undermind the way language is changing.

Digital are exist, a.i generated art exists and sine peole love them, but there are people that like hand drawn art.

That just the way it is to me.

And yes i AM making the claim that LLM / spell checkers thru the software, internet, online articles and tranlators to slowly programming most humans to write in the same "style" and resisting language's drive to evolve naturally.

 

[LeilaniOtter]

The point is not to stigmatized a.i. tools.

E.g
If Grammerly rephrase your sentence to make it grammatically correct, it will read like a.i

Not unless you accept the changes, which I rarely do. You can also set Grammarly for your style, elegant, colloquial, casual, etc. I use Grammarly all the time to fix little nips of errors. But I don't let it WRITE for me, like others use AI to do.

That's the difference.

 

[Lysander_Works]

I have a great genre name for them:

Legitimate.

Alright, make a 'Legitimate' tag/genre, and increase the max limit by one so we don't lose an existing tag in use. This the only way I upvote the idea.

 

[L1aei]

Why not advocate for transparency instead? We're really struggling to give credit where it’s due when it comes to editors; a supporting wife being a muse, a curveball suggestion from a child, or even tools we utilized to improve our writing. Whether it's human editors or AI tools, it all plays a part in shaping the final product... that's key here. By being upfront about the tools used, readers can make more informed choices, writers can finally figure out what works best for them by seeing the results firsthand. Keeping co-pilot or auto-pilot hidden only creates a biased process where the true value of the work (and the tools) gets lost. We should encourage openness. Let’s give credit to both human effort and the popularly demanded-plus-damned technology. The readers already speak of the quality and we try encouraging reviews, but it's the writers... Jesus, they're the ones telling the stories. Who do you think should be speaking louder? Transparency doesn’t just benefit the audience; it helps the creative process thrive in a more "legitimate" and supportive environment.

 

[DireBadger]

How about we stop letting people look for excuses to stigmatize other writers? We already have enough of that crap. Someone who writes d*ckgirl harmelit is not going to get worse by using ai, and might produce a better product.