Continuance of a old story by a new author

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Hey guys there is a old story that I have been reading recently it is called "The Foundation of the New Reich", authored by Erikaviktoria. But the problem is that the author has abandoned this story in March of 2024 and the is too good to be abandoned. Does any one of you are interested to please continue this story please i request you to do so.
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No, for juristic reasons but also artistic reasons.

Imagine you ask some random artist to finish a sketch of another artist. Imagine one draws Jojo aesthetic and the other has sailor moon artstyle. Thread question is exactly that situation.

Go ask the original writer for permission, then you can ask again or hire a ghostwriter. The story might become absolutely unrecognizable though.
 

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Hey guys there is a old story that I have been reading recently it is called "The Foundation of the New Reich", authored by Erikaviktoria. But the problem is that the author has abandoned this story in March of 2024 and the is too good to be abandoned. Does any one of you are interested to please continue this story please i request you to do so.
Thanks
bro is literally named LaFuta
 

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Hey guys there is a old story that I have been reading recently it is called "The Foundation of the New Reich", authored by Erikaviktoria. But the problem is that the author has abandoned this story in March of 2024 and the is too good to be abandoned. Does any one of you are interested to please continue this story please i request you to do so.
Unfortunately, the way this works is way more complicated that asking SH forum to do it.

Do you have the permission directly from Erikaviktoria? If yes, then pray for someone to pick it up. If no, then let it go.
 

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If it were licensed under Creative Commons, it would not be impossible.
Unfortunately for @LaFuta the author published it with "all rights reserved". Thus, continuing the story would legally require the author's permission.
I doubt they actually did the paperwork to copyright their work.

@LaFuta but it would be in bad practice to continue someone else's work without the original authors consent. Because if it does gain a bigger audience than the original author, then they might try to want royalties or something compensation for their original IP.

Plus, there's the added element of original fans thinking that you are stealing their property and if the new author can't keep the Essence of the original work you might get hate for fucking up the story.

It isn't worth it. The best you can hope for is the original author coming back or someone creating a fanfic of the property that takes the world and starts from scratch.
 

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No, for juristic reasons but also artistic reasons.

Imagine you ask some random artist to finish a sketch of another artist. Imagine one draws Jojo aesthetic and the other has sailor moon artstyle. Thread question is exactly that situation
This reminds me of the Naruto series, which was followed by Boruto. Although this work continues the story, the contrast between Boruto and Naruto is clear. Baruto, written by another author with the permission of the Naruto author, seems to have lost the spirit and artistic flair of the story. Many fans complained about this, even going so far as to believe Baruto wasn't a continuation of Naruto. Adding another author to original work can clearly ruin the essence of the original.
 

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I doubt they actually did the paperwork to copyright their work.

@LaFuta but it would be in bad practice to continue someone else's work without the original authors consent. Because if it does gain a bigger audience than the original author, then they might try to want royalties or something compensation for their original IP.

Plus, there's the added element of original fans thinking that you are stealing their property and if the new author can't keep the Essence of the original work you might get hate for fucking up the story.

It isn't worth it. The best you can hope for is the original author coming back or someone creating a fanfic of the property that takes the world and starts from scratch.

Unfortunately, the way this works is way more complicated that asking SH forum to do it.

Do you have the permission directly from Erikaviktoria? If yes, then pray for someone to pick it up. If no, then let it go.
No, for juristic reasons but also artistic reasons.

Imagine you ask some random artist to finish a sketch of another artist. Imagine one draws Jojo aesthetic and the other has sailor moon artstyle. Thread question is exactly that situation.

Go ask the original writer for permission, then you can ask again or hire a ghostwriter. The story might become absolutely unrecognizable though.
If it were licensed under Creative Commons, it would not be impossible.
Unfortunately for @LaFuta the author published it with "all rights reserved". Thus, continuing the story would legally require the author's permission.
The problem is the story hasn't been updated since May 2023 and account of Erikaviktoria has been last active on March 2024. And the author is replying to any of the messages sent to them and they are not active on any other social media platforms by the same name so I can't find them. If i could find them I would have convinced them to continue the story once again but unfortunately I cannot. Anyway thanks guys
 

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The few times a new author stepping in and working out, usually include the original author being involved with their first steps (c.f. the Wheel of Time series - around book six, Robert Jordan discovered he had a terminal illness, and he spent a year looking for someone to finish his series if he couldn't, and wound up with Brian K. Sanderson, who wrote book ten with Jordan, and the started eleven together when Jordan passed and wrote the final book in the series with just the notes they'd put together and the book and a half he'd done).
 

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This reminds me of the Naruto series, which was followed by Boruto. Although this work continues the story, the contrast between Boruto and Naruto is clear. Baruto, written by another author with the permission of the Naruto author, seems to have lost the spirit and artistic flair of the story. Many fans complained about this, even going so far as to believe Baruto wasn't a continuation of Naruto. Adding another author to original work can clearly ruin the essence of the original.
I don't acknowledge the existence of Boruto. Aside from the series being far inferior, I personally despise the continued existence of Sasuke, therefore I can't stomach the fact that Sarada exists either. Always hated the Uchiha's. I like Itachi only for the sole reason that he killed most of them.
The few times a new author stepping in and working out, usually include the original author being involved with their first steps (c.f. the Wheel of Time series - around book six, Robert Jordan discovered he had a terminal illness, and he spent a year looking for someone to finish his series if he couldn't, and wound up with Brian K. Sanderson, who wrote book ten with Jordan, and the started eleven together when Jordan passed and wrote the final book in the series with just the notes they'd put together and the book and a half he'd done).
Sanderson only wrote and received credit for the 12th, 13th, and 14th. Pretty sure Robert died somewhere near the completion of the 11th.
 

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I don't acknowledge the existence of Boruto. Aside from the series being far inferior, I personally despise the continued existence of Sasuke, therefore I can't stomach the fact that Sarada exists either. Always hated the Uchiha's. I like Itachi only for the sole reason that he killed most of them.

Sanderson only wrote and received credit for the 12th, 13th, and 14th. Pretty sure Robert died somewhere near the completion of the 11th.
The boundaries of power levels in the Boruto series are also increasingly blurred. Many antagonists without backgrounds emerge as big bosses and easily overthrow old powers. It's as if all the antagonists in the Naruto series are 'trash' before antagonists of the Boruto series. Yet many Naruto antagonists have become iconic, such as Deidara with his iconic quote, "art is an explosion," Hidan the absurd god of death, and let's not forget Pain, whose character design itself represents his name "Pain" as the collective wound of the shinobi world who lives as avengers for the shinobi world that has failed. Pain is a living ideology - the most iconic character in the history of the Naruto series, even surpassing last bosses like Madara and Kaguya in existential character design.
 

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The boundaries of power levels in the Boruto series are also increasingly blurred. Many antagonists without backgrounds emerge as big bosses and easily overthrow old powers. It's as if all the antagonists in the Naruto series are 'trash' before antagonists of the Boruto series. Yet many Naruto antagonists have become iconic, such as Deidara with his iconic quote, "art is an explosion," Hidan the absurd god of death, and let's not forget Pain, whose character design itself represents his name "Pain" as the collective wound of the shinobi world who lives as avengers for the shinobi world that has failed. Pain is a living ideology - the most iconic character in the history of the Naruto series, even surpassing last bosses like Madara and Kaguya in existential character design.
Call me weird, but I still stan Zabuza Momochi. Him, Sasori, the Sound Four, Dosu Kinuta, Kimimaro, and Hanzo were my favorite villains.

Though whether Hanzo was a villain depends on whose side you were on in the Amegakure Civil War. Pain won, but was he really any better than Hanzo?

I also liked the Demon Brothers, who were Zabuza's minions, but they only appeared for a single episode so oh well.
 

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I don't acknowledge the existence of Boruto. Aside from the series being far inferior, I personally despise the continued existence of Sasuke, therefore I can't stomach the fact that Sarada exists either. Always hated the Uchiha's. I like Itachi only for the sole reason that he killed most of them.

Sanderson only wrote and received credit for the 12th, 13th, and 14th. Pretty sure Robert died somewhere near the completion of the 11th.
Sorry - I stopped reading at either 8 or 9 and missed one. Thought 11 was where the partnership started, not 12; the first one they share credit on was about 35-40% Jordan's work and the rest Sanderson's, the next one was about 10% Jordan and the last one was almost entirely Sanderson.
 

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Call me weird, but I still stan Zabuza Momochi. Him, Sasori, the Sound Four, Dosu Kinuta, Kimimaro, and Hanzo were my favorite villains.

Though whether Hanzo was a villain depends on whose side you were on in the Amegakure Civil War. Pain won, but was he really any better than Hanzo?

I also liked the Demon Brothers, who were Zabuza's minions, but they only appeared for a single episode so oh well.
I think most of the antagonists in the Naruto series are iconic and have depth, not just strong characters. I like Pain not because he's the strongest or the greatest, but because of the ideas he brings to bear on the failure of the Shinobi world and offers a path of suffering as a solution to peace. I remember the Konoha invasion arc when Naruto was lying on the ground and couldn't answer Pain's question about how to stop the cycle of hatred in the Shinobi world. Naruto was powerless to answer this moral question. This is the power of a living character - a living ideology. A character designed to represent a certain extreme idea. Pain isn't a character carrying a wound, he's the incarnation of the collective wound of the shinobi world itself. Pain's narrative design is on par with V for Vendetta. The character is too compelling to be forgotten.
 

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I think most of the antagonists in the Naruto series are iconic and have depth, not just strong characters. I like Pain not because he's the strongest or the greatest, but because of the ideas he brings to bear on the failure of the Shinobi world and offers a path of suffering as a solution to peace. I remember the Konoha invasion arc when Naruto was lying on the ground and couldn't answer Pain's question about how to stop the cycle of hatred in the Shinobi world. Naruto was powerless to answer this moral question. This is the power of a living character - a living ideology. A character designed to represent a certain extreme idea. Pain isn't a character carrying a wound, he's the incarnation of the collective wound of the shinobi world itself. Pain's narrative design is on par with V for Vendetta. The character is too compelling to be forgotten.
His fight with Naruto was impressive. It was also the first time I realized that Naruto had surpassed pretty much everyone in his village. He was the only one that fought Pain head on, alone, and won.
 

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The boundaries of power levels in the Boruto series are also increasingly blurred. Many antagonists without backgrounds emerge as big bosses and easily overthrow old powers. It's as if all the antagonists in the Naruto series are 'trash' before antagonists of the Boruto series. Yet many Naruto antagonists have become iconic, such as Deidara with his iconic quote, "art is an explosion," Hidan the absurd god of death, and let's not forget Pain, whose character design itself represents his name "Pain" as the collective wound of the shinobi world who lives as avengers for the shinobi world that has failed. Pain is a living ideology - the most iconic character in the history of the Naruto series, even surpassing last bosses like Madara and Kaguya in existential character design.
That's one of the classic problems with people taking over others series. You see this in Star Trek and other things where the new authors seem to be trying to 'conquer' the old characters and previous systems. People don't like that much. Other writers realllyyy don't like that.

You made a good point to bring it up. Thank you.
 

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That's one of the classic problems with people taking over others series. You see this in Star Trek and other things where the new authors seem to be trying to 'conquer' the old characters and previous systems. People don't like that much. Other writers realllyyy don't like that.

You made a good point to bring it up. Thank you.
Ah, I remember you. I was reading the Kidnapped to Another World story. Couldn't continue it past the Fairy City Arc or whatever it was called. It was the longest arc at that point, with almost nothing happening for 40-50 chapters. You ever edit/fix that? Was like....somewhere in the 300's chapters on RR.
 
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