The Reason You Don't Have Readers: No, It Isn't How Well You Write

[Deleted member 84247]

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[RepresentingWrath]

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[PancakesWitch]

Also, I went and looked, you offer like 100+ chapters of multiple novels ahead. You have 12,000 readers across your stories (yes, I realize only like 3k peak per though). Assuming overlap, you probably have like 4500 active readers or more?

There aren't really any books five times as popular as yours? Not any active ones. Maybe 2x, by raw readers?

And the few novels on

Series Ranking | Scribble Hub

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(which are the active stories, the ones being read this week) that I checked have bigger patreons than you. The exceptions don't seem to be monetized (offering no chapters ahead).
Can you give an example of what story you're talking about?
Sure, having a more dedicated fanbase helps, but direct popularity correlates pretty strongly with patreon size—though not one to one, naturally.

In short your whole post seems to be bologna, but I admit I didn't research every ongoing novel. Link?

Blah blah blah there are still more popular novels that earn less so what I said still apply. The five times as popular is an exageration maybe. And thats without really including my Webnovel earnings. But it doesnt really matter, what matters is that you're wasting your time with this whole discussion, nobody here really cares and I havent seen anybody complaining either. Go post this at Royal Road or Webnovel forums instead lol
Also care to share your novels? If you did your whole investigation I would like to know wbat slop you write brother

 

[aurifex]

I only see intellectual bankruptcy here~, to be honest.

"Intellectually bankrupt" means you're writing slop (no-brain garbage repetitive tropey stuff), and you're writing naruto fanfic and a story called "The Human Saint is Bored, so I was Summoned to Another World". So the irony is pretty funny?

If you mean "sell-out" or "morally bankrupt":

Okay, so what do I do?
Naturally, do what makes you happy. Write for the joy of it. But if you're seeking popularity?

I hardly advocated for "readers readers readers who cares about what you want to write, do what the market wants", this is just a discussion on what does, actually, get readers.

Blah blah blah there are still more popular novels that earn less so what I said still apply. The five times as popular is an exageration maybe. And thats without really including my Webnovel earnings. But it doesnt really matter, what matters is that you're wasting your time with this whole discussion, nobody here really cares and I havent seen anybody complaining either. Go post this at Royal Road or Webnovel forums instead lol
Also care to share your novels? If you did your whole investigation I would like to know wbat slop you write brother

I mean, you responded, so you cared? And you responded with some nonsense, so of course I pointed that out. There aren't really "stories five times as popular, yet I'm making sooooo much more cash, what are those silly people doing?! lolol". But nice backtracking

 

[PancakesWitch]

"Intellectually bankrupt" means you're writing slop (no-brain garbage repetitive tropey stuff), and you're writing naruto fanfic and a story called "The Human Saint is Bored, so I was Summoned to Another World". So the irony is pretty funny?

If you mean "sell-out" or "morally bankrupt":

I hardly advocated for "readers readers readers who cares about what you want to write, do what the market wants", this is just a discussion on what does, actually, get readers.




I mean, you responded, so you cared? And you responded with some nonsense, so of course I pointed that out. There aren't really "stories five times as popular, yet I'm making sooooo much more cash, what are those silly people doing?! lolol". But nice backtracking

Where are your novels bro

 

[aurifex]

Where are your novels bro

Why would it matter? You just looking to shit talk? Seeing how you write slop too I don't know what your angle is?

 

[PancakesWitch]

Why would it matter? You just looking to shit talk? Seeing how you write slop too I don't know what your angle is?

Didnt you stated in your first post how you were very successful or maybe i read wrong? Im interested in what you wrote to learn more from the master!

 

[aurifex]

Didnt you stated in your first post how you were very successful or maybe i read wrong? Im interested in what you wrote to learn more from the master!

please see:
>Why would it matter?
Or does me having more readers than you (by a lot, btw) make my word the law? And then you'll grovel at my feet?

So disingenuous. Either make a point or gtfo

 

[Valmond]

This thread is aging interestingly.

Hmm…race to see who is the last comment at this rate?

 

[CharlesEBrown]

No, this isn't true. This is a cope that people tell themselves. "This is why no one reads my stuff—I don't spend all day self-promoting!" It's BS

Well, on RoyalRoad, the culture is a bit different: you need to get onto Rising Stars, so there's some shady cabal-like discords that review swap and force their stories onto it. But that's how you get, like, a few hundred followers and fizzle out because you failed to actually do steps #1-3.

In any case, you can get onto Rising Stars and get a ton of followers (way more than cheating) by doing what I said (+run ads).

Run Ads = Promote your stuff. It is not exactly SELF promotion but it is promoting it.

... you realize you control all of these? You can write in popular tags, post frequently, and post at optimal hours. That's the opposite of luck.

Well, not the opposite, always. It was pure luck that one of my stories hit the sweet spot on tags (and I was able to post frequently at first, enough to draw an audience at least), because I had not been around enough to do any research for any of this when it started.

 

[Valmond]

Run Ads = Promote your stuff. It is not exactly SELF promotion but it is promoting it.

Well, not the opposite, always. It was pure luck that one of my stories hit the sweet spot on tags (and I was able to post frequently at first, enough to draw an audience at least), because I had not been around enough to do any research for any of this when it started.

Hey-hey, Val was officially last.

 

[Cookiez_N_Potionz]

For me, my synopsis sucked and than I fixed it with some help from other people.

 

[Valmond]

For me, my synopsis sucked and than I fixed it with some help from other people.

Why? Val was so close to being last.

 

[Prince_Azmiran_Myrian]

I think you have a good point.

 

[Valmond]

I think you have a good point.

 

[Kamael89]

I'm struggling past point #1 since I write non-Isekai/LitRPG.

 

[Danja]

4. Write well at a technical level. This means sentence-level and scene-level writing. If your writing is clumsy/awkward, people will leave before finishing chapter 1. The more digestible your writing is, the less people who will bounce off early.

We have authors from all over the world.

What if the author's first language is something other than English?

 

[CharlesEBrown]

We have authors from all over the world.

What if the author's first language is something other than English?

Be upfront about it - people will be more forgiving if they know in advance than if they "find out the hard way"

 

[aurifex]

We have authors from all over the world.

What if the author's first language is something other than English?

English doesn't have to be your first language for you to be a competent English writer. Some extremely popular web novelists are ESL. You don't have to be Steinbeck here you just need to write clear sentences with decent flow. The standards for web novels are basically in the dirt.

So, my advice is to not use this as an excuse and learn how to write English properly.

 

[yeul_e]

Yes, unless you're writing purely within a literary genre, writing with your audience in mind is important.