Anonjohn20
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What about "anti-trans-fantasy?"
Fantasy?
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An-Trantasy?
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I do not know what it means, but I feel an intense sense of intimidation, as if my grasp of English were being held at gunpoint.
Anonjohn20
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Just add another anti- and you're safe from it.
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Counter-anti-anti-trans-fantasy.
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Smut, smut-derivatives, fanfiction, girls love, isekai, cultivation, harem, and genderbender are the golden tags apparently. Lit-rpg is more of a RR thing but semi-popular here.
Actually, just change your male secondary lead to a female secondary lead and make it girls love. You'll probably have more readers than you know what to do with. I even had several readers drop my book because it didn't have enough girls love. Girls love will carry you if your writing is good.
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TheIcMan
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I for one would. Honestly I don't trust isekai writers lmfaoo. 95% of us are lazy.
Okay, challenge accepted. I will write a non-isekai novel with serious fantasy premises that I will focus on and promise not to drop because I got bored again! (Disclaimer, out of my 21 novels, 15 are isekai. 2 LitRPG. 2 sci-fi. 2 Naruto fanfics. 19 are virtually dropped, three finished books in one isekai novel, and one finished book in one superhero scifi novel.)
Don't get me wrong, I loved fantasy as much as I loved isekai. The beautiful thing about isekai is how you put a character's mindset in another world and how it would affect their journey. From there, the character would evolve. I have lots of favorites when it comes to the isekai genre. The problem with JN's popular media with their isekai is how they use salarymen and high school loner teens so much. I reckon, it resonates a lot in their population because of how tough the life of a salaryman is as portrayed in most there stories... And when they do try to be creative, they often go to the extreme end of reincarnating into just about everything. Still, there is a lot of interesting isekai stuff out there, even in SH.
A really helpful advice to Isekai writers is to break the mold and not isekai the same kind of character again and again. A way to do this is to isekai a 'complete' character, because they would quickly become 'incomplete' the second they arrive in the other world, as they were faced with a new environment and rules. By 'complete' character, it could be a Demon King, a Taoist Immortal, a renowned Knight, etc. This had been done in manhwa/manhua, and they are interesting enough for readers to stay the long way and be hooked. An isekai with good worldbuilding is awesome, but it is the MC in the end that will make or break it.
Isekai comes in many flavors, from transmigration, reincarnation, possession, dungeon, reversed isekai, and rarely even regression.
Another tip from a fellow isekai writer... I have this habit of giving every character I watch in popular media the isekai treatment and imagining in my head how these characters would interact with different worlds. Speaking of 'world', you have to treat it like a character so that you don't lose your vision for the story. Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Think of this as more of a mental exercise. I call it imagining a fanfiction in your head. For example, last month, I was watching Blade Runner 2049 with Ryan Gosling, and I thought what happens if we gave his character the isekai treatment, a cop from a cyberpunk civilization. I thought it would be interesting to see him in a steampunk world, even a medieval fantasy, or even a grimdark superhero story! Now, what's next is to think of a method how to send him to another world. Maybe a science experiment gone wrong, getting shot by a bullet, getting dropped by a truck, etc. What's next? Build a motivation for the character, understand his perception and the people's perception in general. From there, the story would snowball as you build one arc to another.
Don't get me wrong, I loved fantasy as much as I loved isekai. The beautiful thing about isekai is how you put a character's mindset in another world and how it would affect their journey. From there, the character would evolve. I have lots of favorites when it comes to the isekai genre. The problem with JN's popular media with their isekai is how they use salarymen and high school loner teens so much. I reckon, it resonates a lot in their population because of how tough the life of a salaryman is as portrayed in most there stories... And when they do try to be creative, they often go to the extreme end of reincarnating into just about everything. Still, there is a lot of interesting isekai stuff out there, even in SH.
A really helpful advice to Isekai writers is to break the mold and not isekai the same kind of character again and again. A way to do this is to isekai a 'complete' character, because they would quickly become 'incomplete' the second they arrive in the other world, as they were faced with a new environment and rules. By 'complete' character, it could be a Demon King, a Taoist Immortal, a renowned Knight, etc. This had been done in manhwa/manhua, and they are interesting enough for readers to stay the long way and be hooked. An isekai with good worldbuilding is awesome, but it is the MC in the end that will make or break it.
Isekai comes in many flavors, from transmigration, reincarnation, possession, dungeon, reversed isekai, and rarely even regression.
Another tip from a fellow isekai writer... I have this habit of giving every character I watch in popular media the isekai treatment and imagining in my head how these characters would interact with different worlds. Speaking of 'world', you have to treat it like a character so that you don't lose your vision for the story. Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Think of this as more of a mental exercise. I call it imagining a fanfiction in your head. For example, last month, I was watching Blade Runner 2049 with Ryan Gosling, and I thought what happens if we gave his character the isekai treatment, a cop from a cyberpunk civilization. I thought it would be interesting to see him in a steampunk world, even a medieval fantasy, or even a grimdark superhero story! Now, what's next is to think of a method how to send him to another world. Maybe a science experiment gone wrong, getting shot by a bullet, getting dropped by a truck, etc. What's next? Build a motivation for the character, understand his perception and the people's perception in general. From there, the story would snowball as you build one arc to another.
WhaleSprite
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Though it’s possible, on sites popular with light novel readers, those kinds of stories typically aren’t what the audience is looking for. How should I put it? ? It’s kind of like people who enjoy watching Hallmark movies over and over again, just in a different font. They like reading stories that are basically the same ones they’ve always read, just with slight variations.
I admit, I’m guilty of this myself. I'm autistic, so I tend to stick to genres or types of stories that fall within my “comfort zone.” My brain has limited energy, and I often hesitate to try new genres or stories because it’s like, “But what if I don’t like it?” Sometimes, I’ll even reread a story I already know I enjoyed instead of investing my feelings into a new one.
That said, I do enjoy new types of stories from time to time. I also have ADHD, so I do seek novelty, but it sometimes takes a little push. My brain wants to stick to what’s familiar, but once I get into something new, I can get really invested.
Of course, this is just my personal perspective. I’m still pretty new to this platform, but it seems similar to other light novel sites I’ve used. So while there’s definitely a chance that a new type of fantasy story could do well, it might get drowned out by isekai and other popular subgenres, simply because that isn’t what most readers on these kinds of sites are usually looking for.
I admit, I’m guilty of this myself. I'm autistic, so I tend to stick to genres or types of stories that fall within my “comfort zone.” My brain has limited energy, and I often hesitate to try new genres or stories because it’s like, “But what if I don’t like it?” Sometimes, I’ll even reread a story I already know I enjoyed instead of investing my feelings into a new one.
That said, I do enjoy new types of stories from time to time. I also have ADHD, so I do seek novelty, but it sometimes takes a little push. My brain wants to stick to what’s familiar, but once I get into something new, I can get really invested.
Of course, this is just my personal perspective. I’m still pretty new to this platform, but it seems similar to other light novel sites I’ve used. So while there’s definitely a chance that a new type of fantasy story could do well, it might get drowned out by isekai and other popular subgenres, simply because that isn’t what most readers on these kinds of sites are usually looking for.
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Well I sure the heck hope so! That's what I write, and also what I like to read!
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Those two things are pretty much the same. Erotica is erotica.
Lots of prep and aftercare are involved.
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Omigoodness! Thanks for the heads up. Fixed now.
FYI - smut in this story starts around chapter 16 (yeah.... I know. Its a SLOW burn). If you want to read ahead to the smutty bits - its (FREE!) on my Patreon. www.patreon.com/c/BonnieHart.
I'm not monetizing at the moment - I just want to get eyes on my story and see if anyone likes it. So, FREE.
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If you plan on monetizing it later (if it gets successful), you should warn the readers now, or they'll feel confused and/or betrayed when it's suddenly not free anymore.
Every author has the right to monetize his/her hard work, but depending on how it's done, it can go smoothly or alienate readers.
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I've had writers and fans of erotica go off on this (pun fully intended) - erotica can BE porn, but porn is not erotica and erotica does not have to be porn. And, no, I'm not quite sure of the difference, even after they explained it, but there is one.
That's the fun part!
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They are not mutually exclusive/separate things; all porn is erotica, even if not all erotica is porn. The thing is that porn is exclusively to help get someone off, while erotica can be doing more things, like attempting to be aesthetic (ever see those marble statues of naked women?). Regardless, the thread I was replying to was comparing smut vs. porn; smut is porn.