Crossovers on Scribble Hub???

[VertisGuguChalimoth]

Has anyone ever done crossovers with another author on here?
This question just came to Vertis randomly.

BETTER QUESTION: What are some unrelated works (not made by the same author) on here that you would love to see crossover?

Another question: IF you're an author, would you be open to collaborating and creating a crossover work with someone? If yes, then who?

Minor Question: How well would it do on SH?

 

[CharlesEBrown]

Have never done one but might be open to it, at least in passing. Actually, if I ever get back to Strange Awakening, Book Two, at some point Kelly will wind up bouncing around a few worlds after an enemy uses an experimental weapon on her so might have a good excuse for one.

 

[Empress_Omnii]

Has anyone ever done crossovers with another author on here?

Yes. Don't ask for examples, but I've seen it done at least four times? So considering I've only read like 150 >300 stories it isn't really too unheard of.

And I have little to no opinion on the other questions.

I didn't think it was over 300, but my reading list suggests that

 

[beast_regards]

Ideas about co-authorship had come out more than once, both here and on the Royal Road.

So, yes, it has been done, though I struggle to remember any that has been successful, perhaps because of the competitive nature of the sites with ranks, ratings and limited visibility slots.

From my experience, the shared universes do suffer from a constant conflict between the authors, which cannot agree on what the rules are and try to constantly outdo each other. It just breeds disagreement between the authors, and causes the project to fall apart as each writer involved have a different idea about the stories, and that's assuming each one is writing his own story in the shared universe. Co-authorship, as two authors, but one book, is even worse, considering there is always the one who feels he is doing all the work.

I think it would be more practical to have one author write the crossover with the permission of another, featuring the characters or places from someone's else novel, like some crossover between the Marvel and the DC, and such.

That would be a fan-fiction with permission, but considering there has been a push to delete all fanfiction from the site, I doubt it would work.

 

[Fairemont]

Certainly sounds like an interesting idea. Not sure who Id pick to crossover with, though.

 

[Madmcgee]

Sitting here and trying to wrap my head around what a crossover fanfic would be like, if it was crossed over with another fanfic... I just feel like it would be an abomination of confusion...

 

[CharlesEBrown]

Sitting here and trying to wrap my head around what a crossover fanfic would be like, if it was crossed over with another fanfic... I just feel like it would be an abomination of confusion...

Or it might be like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen or the novel Silverlock, or some of the Herold Shea stories, or Craig Shaw Gardner's Cineverse Cycle (maybe even his Ebenezum/Wuntvor "Eternal Apprentice" cycle but that was more parody).

 

[Madmcgee]

Or it might be like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen or the novel Silverlock, or some of the Herold Shea stories, or Craig Shaw Gardner's Cineverse Cycle (maybe even his Ebenezum/Wuntvor "Eternal Apprentice" cycle but that was more parody).

Alright, yeah, I could see how that could work lol

 

[beast_regards]

Sitting here and trying to wrap my head around what a crossover fanfic would be like, if it was crossed over with another fanfic... I just feel like it would be an abomination of confusion...

Crossover fan-fics are quite common.

Often it is presented as the power from the one universe acting as the out of context problem in the second. It's something one universe never expected coming.

Like magic appearing in the world that didn't have it.

Like Superman appearing in the world that doesn't have superpowers.

Fan-fiction loves his overpowered protagonist, and having someone - or something - that the given world doesn't have the counter for is ideal for this purpose.

Writing crossover is not that difficult overall.

What is difficult is to write a crossover where the audience doesn't have a context for, and are original in themselves, both written by relatively unknown authors.

 

[Madmcgee]

Crossover fan-fics are quite common.

Often it is presented as the power from the one universe acting as the out of context problem in the second. It's something one universe never expected coming.

Like magic appearing in the world that didn't have it.

Like Superman appearing in the world that doesn't have superpowers.

Fan-fiction loves his overpowered protagonist, and having someone - or something - that the given world doesn't have the counter for is ideal for this purpose.

Writing crossover is not that difficult overall.

What is difficult is to write a crossover where the audience doesn't have a context for, and are original in themselves, both written by relatively unknown authors.

Sort of my initial thought, like if someone self-inserted into Batman, then someone made a fanfic of that self-insert.
The backdrop would be there, but I feel like all the nuance for any situation would be totally dependant on some cult-classic level knowledge of whats going on.

 

[beast_regards]

Sort of my initial thought, like if someone self-inserted into Batman, then someone made a fanfic of that self-insert.
The backdrop would be there, but I feel like all the nuance for any situation would be totally dependant on some cult-classic level knowledge of whats going on.

It's less about the being Batman and more about having the power the DC universe doesn't expect to exist. This is ...

...surprisingly difficult. Having magical powers in the DC universe isn't that much of the win, as the important denizens either know magic exists, or have magical powers too (and are better in magic than you would be)

So if you appeared in the DC universe with magical powers, Batman would still beat you (because if he don't have magic, he knows people who do)

So, the crossovers are usually something the Batman didn't expect.

 

[Madmcgee]

It's less about the being Batman and more about having the power the DC universe doesn't expect to exist. This is ...

...surprisingly difficult. Having magical powers in the DC universe isn't that much of the win, as the important denizens either know magic exists, or have magical powers too (and are better in magic than you would be)

So if you appeared in the DC universe with magical powers, Batman would still beat you (because if he don't have magic, he knows people who do)

So, the crossovers are usually something the Batman didn't expect.

Hmm, see, that part is fairly easy to me,

It's a power fantasy.

If a crossover character, let's say, 'beats batman' just because we're using the example, whoever it is, whether their magical, super strong or just from the WWE, they're going to win if the author wants it because, again, it's probably a self-insert or personal fantasy. Call it whatever you want.

That's fine, w/e, people can dream up whatever they want. Hell, DC does their own wacky crossovers where characters like Deadpool just go wipe everyone out.

No, to me, where the crossover madness really disconnects, is when you have multiple realities all competing with each other so much that the original content loses focus and becomes uninteresting. At that point, it may as well not 'be' a crossover; it's just a parody, if that's even the right word.

All opinion of course, its just where I personally tend to look at something and go 'meh maybe it's not for me'

 

[beast_regards]

Hmm, see, that part is fairly easy to me,

It's a power fantasy.

If a crossover character, let's say, 'beats batman' just because we're using the example, whoever it is, whether their magical, super strong or just from the WWE, they're going to win if the author wants it because, again, it's probably a self-insert or personal fantasy. Call it whatever you want.

It really depends on the author.

Spacebattles site is filled with the crossovers, yet they are rarely intended to be an actual power fantasy and more about the imagined meta competency where authors try to up each other by thinking out the most outlandish combinations which defy the rules of the pre-established universes. Trying to rule lawyer the fictional universes superpower is very indicative of the site where rules change every three minutes ....

But nevermind...

No, to me, where the crossover madness really disconnects, is when you have multiple realities all competing with each other so much that the original content loses focus and becomes uninteresting. At that point, it may as well not 'be' a crossover; it's just a parody, if that's even the right word.

The idea of the multiverse, a multiple reality or universes competing against each other, is the most logical outcome. Some works of fiction work around this concept, even though this is usually the continuous work by the single author, or multiple authors under the single intellectual property. Magic: The Gathering backstory is essentially this. (and yes, the card game has a story)

From my experience, it is rarely how crossovers actually work....

 

[CharlesEBrown]

It's less about the being Batman and more about having the power the DC universe doesn't expect to exist. This is ...

...surprisingly difficult. Having magical powers in the DC universe isn't that much of the win, as the important denizens either know magic exists, or have magical powers too (and are better in magic than you would be)

So if you appeared in the DC universe with magical powers, Batman would still beat you (because if he don't have magic, he knows people who do)

So, the crossovers are usually something the Batman didn't expect.

Batman/Judge Dredd
Batman/Predator

That's fine, w/e, people can dream up whatever they want. Hell, DC does their own wacky crossovers where characters like Deadpool just go wipe everyone out.

Deadpool is Marvel (and he did Defeat the Marvel Universe); the DC equivalent was Lobo (who did beat up HIS universe)...
A really crazy one was done last year - Godzilla vs. King Kong vs. The Justice League of America (70s version).
This year, Godzilla instead invades the Marvel Universe in a series of one shots leading up to a miniseries.
There was also a Godzilla/Power Rangers crossover long before the DC one that I've only been able to find one issue (sadly #2 of either 3 or 4) of...

No, to me, where the crossover madness really disconnects, is when you have multiple realities all competing with each other so much that the original content loses focus and becomes uninteresting. At that point, it may as well not 'be' a crossover; it's just a parody, if that's even the right word.

DC had an internal one - Worlds Collide - where the regular DC universe wound up forced to engage with the universe of the Milestone imprint (one of the best moments was when "villain with a conscience" Holocaust faces Superman and says: "Does Clark Kent know you're wearing his underwear?")

There was also "Marvel vs. DC" which pitted the main characters against each other, mostly in fan-decided fights, until the villains behind it said "screw this" and shoved them together, creating the Amalgam universe which consisted of "hybrid" characters, like Dark Claw (Batman/Wolverine), Spider-boy (Peter Parker and Connor Kent), Iron Lantern (Tony Stark with Hal Jordan's ring), and Doctor Strangefate (Doctor Strange, Doctor Fate and Professor Charles Xavier merged).

 

[HisDivineShadow]

Collaboration sounds really interesting, especially if you're working on a story that blends different genres. Or when the authors bring different strengths to the table like one is great at writing dialogue and character motivation, while the other focuses on plot development and action scenes. That would be a cool collaboration.

 

[Rezcore]

I'm currently working on the outline of a novel, one I plan to try and publish professionally, and I also plan to license other authors to write additions in world, with a copy if the world bible.

 

[SurfAngel_1031]

Has anyone ever done crossovers with another author on here?
This question just came to Vertis randomly.

BETTER QUESTION: What are some unrelated works (not made by the same author) on here that you would love to see crossover?

Another question: IF you're an author, would you be open to collaborating and creating a crossover work with someone? If yes, then who?

Minor Question: How well would it do on SH?

I've never really thought about it TBH. I'm not a typical writer for the site. That being the case, I'm not sure that anyone would want to write with me.

Am I open to it? Not currently. I have things in my head that I want to write and I haven't met a person - well maybe 1 person, that I'd write with. Even then, I think our style and prose are too different.

How well would one do? No clue. It all depends on how the synopsis reads to the folks here and if it's part of the more popular genres.

 

[sbdrag]

Not a full crossover and not on SH, but a friend has a character originally from my story's world that got isekai'ed into theirs. I think that can be a fun way to do it in canon because its relatively low maintainence on both of us whole still having a fun little easter egg connection.

I'd be open to like. Non-canon crossovers - maybe just a chapter swap of a fun little thing for a holiday or something, but full on crossovers are a lot of work to get right, especially if they have an impact on the story's canon and you plan to publish more officially later.