Revenge Regression Stories make no sense

FieryLou

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Travelling back in time, just to beat up a 5 year olds kiddies and raise a fucking LI.

On a serious note, it makes no sense as a new timeline opens the moment the mc regresses. The true antagonist still exist in the original timeline, and will live their live. MC takes revenge on someone who didnt do anything yet...
 

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Revenge as a plot device is eh... it's okay I guess, but many people are either overextending the revenge part and making the protagonist sounded like some cranky old champ in the process, especially post-exposé arc. I'm looking at you, ganimanovel ?

Anyways, now that I think about it. Regression and revenge sounds like a toxic relationship, where after regressing, the MC could take a different path and at least avoided the cause of why they got backstabbed, but instead, they go straight into the very source of their suffering and... I don't know, fuck them up?
 

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Revenge Regressor Stories is basically just reload last savepoint where an NPC mocks you and you basically load a savepoint to beat him up.

Its even pointless to hold on to a vengence without the sense of satisfaction since you died at your original savepoint. What about the old future after you died? Does the story matter or how authors don't continue the story in the original timeline?
 

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I think regression and revenge are not bad. However, it depends on the character. If the character is going to be an antihero, villain, or even antivillain, revenge is perfectly normal, should be expected, and fine. But if the character is supposed to have the moral upper hand, the moral high horse, then they really should not. Also, it comes down to perspective, some authors do it okay, where the person the MC is going to have revenge on was always or is already a bastard. Some have them go at revenge only to discover they can change things. Also, answer this: if someone betrayed you because you were you or they disagreed with you but never vocalised it, should you change your actions, would you? I mean, I would say No. I am not changing for someone who did not even try to get me to change. However, that is all writing that kind of makes the antagonists or revenge targets look one-dimensional, which actually happens in real life just rare. I am neither for nor against, it is just a little overused at this point that if MC regresses, they must have at least one revenge target, and that is not necessary. They can have it or even contemplate it, but at least fit the character arc.
Travelling back in time, just to beat up a 5 year olds kiddies and raise a fucking LI.

On a serious note, it makes no sense as a new timeline opens the moment the mc regresses. The true antagonist still exist in the original timeline, and will live their live. MC takes revenge on someone who didnt do anything yet...
Yes and no. You have the hitler problem. "Oh you can go back in time, Do you kill baby Hitler? Yes - You are a monster he is just a baby. No - It is Hitler, he is going to orchestrate the death of millions." Is it moral, is it justified are questions we will always ask. Also in some of the stories I read the character waits to be proven right and once vindicated (I am Right!!!) they exact their pre-planned revenge. I cannot recall off the top of my head a character going back in time to beat up a 5 year old unless the MC is a villain or anti-hero (loose with hero).
 

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If you don't think that make sense let me tell you story a i recently read.

It's about a guy who was best hunter in the whole World, but get betrayed, he loose everything, he spent his rest of life wallowing and drunk until he get ran over by a truck, which make him regress to point before his betrayal. Then the usually revenge plot.


But the thing is It's A VR genre, fucking VR genres, so everything happened it happened in a fucking game.


WHY THE FUCK HE HAD TO REGRESS FOR THAT, IT'S GAME, JUST A GAME, IT'S STILL THERE JUST START ANOTHER ROUND OR ANOTHER GAME MORON, OR BETTER SAY GG AND MOVE ON


Like you guys ever lost a Fortnite game, and thinking "damn I wished I regressed over this"
 
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It's a time travel story.

As all time travel stories, they either lead to paradoxes that invalidate the premise of the story before it started, or, if there is a mechanism that prevents the paradox from happening, they are made pointless.

Paradox is more straightforward as it leads to the situation that would erase the original protagonist from existence and so on...

However, no paradox is worse.

Absence of paradox usually means there is the alternate universe of sorts, and the protagonist could travel to it.

But, if he (or she) does, it defeats the point. If one could travel to the alternate universes, why not keep jumping to one which already reached desired outcome of its own, rather than punish the completely unrelated individuals explicitly different from ones who wronged you?
 

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Okay revenge that makes sense!

He wasted decades nursing rage. As a boy, they mocked his clothes, his silence, his very existence. That rage grew into the only certainty he had. At the twenty-year reunion, he carried a gun, ready to balance the scales. But as he stepped through the old school’s doors, time shifted.

Suddenly, he stood in the past, twenty-five years younger. The faces of his future tormentors were fresh, laughing, unscarred by regret. They hadn't bullied him, not yet. But his mind swirled. The plan remained. If the future had consumed him, why not stop it at the root?

He drew the weapon, which traveled with him as his anger instrument. Screams replaced laughter. Desks overturned. Justice, or something darker, moved his hands. As the last bully fell, he felt no triumph, only emptiness. Turning the gun inward, he ended the story he never escaped.

Outside, time continued without him, untouched by his fury.

gg ez?
 

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If you don't think that make sense let me tell you story a i recently read.

It's about a guy who was best hunter in the whole World, but get betrayed, he loose everything, he spent his rest of life wallowing and drunk until he get ran over by a truck, which make him regress to point before his betrayal. Then the usually revenge plot.


But the thing is It's A VR genre, fucking VR genres, so everything happened it happened in a fucking game.


WHY THE FUCK HE HAD TO REGRESS FOR THAT, IT'S GAME, JUST A GAME, IT'S STILL THERE JUST START ANOTHER ROUND OR ANOTHER GAME MORON, OR BETTER SAY GG AND MOVE ON


Like you guys ever lost a Fortnite game, and thinking "damn if I wish I regressed over this"
Mind you, when Ai-chan played Dominions 5, Ai-chan often had the thought of, "Ahhh! I wish I regressed 1 turn back so that I don't send the army there and lose everything!"
 

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Mind you, when Ai-chan played Dominions 5, Ai-chan often had the thought of, "Ahhh! I wish I regressed 1 turn back so that I don't send the army there and lose everything!"
Ai-chan is very special:)
 

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Okay revenge that makes sense!

He wasted decades nursing rage. As a boy, they mocked his clothes, his silence, his very existence. That rage grew into the only certainty he had. At the twenty-year reunion, he carried a gun, ready to balance the scales. But as he stepped through the old school’s doors, time shifted.

Suddenly, he stood in the past, twenty-five years younger. The faces of his future tormentors were fresh, laughing, unscarred by regret. They hadn't bullied him, not yet. But his mind swirled. The plan remained. If the future had consumed him, why not stop it at the root?

He drew the weapon, which traveled with him as his anger instrument. Screams replaced laughter. Desks overturned. Justice, or something darker, moved his hands. As the last bully fell, he felt no triumph, only emptiness. Turning the gun inward, he ended the story he never escaped.

Outside, time continued without him, untouched by his fury.

gg ez?
Here we have an example that makes sense. But it wouldn't make a good story. Clearly, we have a plot where a believable protagonist makes for a bad story. No wonder revenge regressions seem dull.
 

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You never read:
“Devil Returns to School days”

Regression revenge makes sense in that regard.
 

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But what if the enemy is a colosal bitch? I will never forgive you for that ice cream cone, Karen, even if I go back in time before the incident! Prepare your frikkin jaw, you six year old Karen, cause Imma punch a baby.
 
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