Novel end up with suicide. To post or not to post.

[Nezothe]

I'm feeling conflicted. After being able to finished my other novel, I started writing about an angst novel that I think would end up with mc killing himself.

I already done the cover, written like some work in prorgress chapters... but now I realized, this is actually not a good thing to post. For one, it has no resolution and even though it's is badly written (courtesy since it is me) this actually might glorify suicide which is a bad thing.

I guess, It's just kinda sad after putting some days writing it then just realizing this is bad.

 

[VertisGuguChalimoth]

If it is against the guidelines, posting would be unwise.

 

[Nezothe]

If it is against the guidelines, posting would be unwise.

My goodness, I also forgot the guidelines... Saw it now Any media displaying self-harm or suicide.

Thanks!

 

[AYM]

• Any media displaying self-harm or suicide.

Tmk, media doesn't refer to the content of the book. It's referring to you adding any images or videos of the said actions. Otherwise self-harm/suicide topics would be under prohibited content.

 

[AwakenFreddy]

I think it depend, if the mc is killing himself because theres reason or cause, then i think it fine. Like if the story about depressed mc that try to fine a place in the world but still not find it in the end and choose the kill himself, i think thats a resolution. Does resolution need a good / happy ending? I think no. What it need is to be logical / there is a cause for it.

 

[ForestDweller]

I'm feeling conflicted. After being able to finished my other novel, I started writing about an angst novel that I think would end up with mc killing himself.

I already done the cover, written like some work in prorgress chapters... but now I realized, this is actually not a good thing to post. For one, it has no resolution and even though it's is badly written (courtesy since it is me) this actually might glorify suicide which is a bad thing.

I guess, It's just kinda sad after putting some days writing it then just realizing this is bad.

Post it. We need more angst stories.

 

[Macha]

Tmk, media doesn't refer to the content of the book. It's referring to you adding any images or videos of the said actions. Otherwise self-harm/suicide topics would be under prohibited content.

Remind me not to post the video of that livestreamer who committed suicide during a 2013 livestream by jumping off the 13th floor of her apartment building.

 

[beast_regards]

Not worth the trouble.

(even assuming it is allowed in the first place)

The Royal Road had the massive outrage about the novel starting with suicide, and considering it was in the first chapter, they must have approved it to be even visible. Yet it didn't stop them from being offended to ban it. By having the problematic content in the last chapter somewhat postpones the reaction, but does it matter if it gets banned afterwards?

 

[Macha]

The Royal Road

Here we go again.

had the massive outrage

Just an ordinary day in Royal Road.

about the novel starting with suicide

About the novel starting with anything that isn't written or endorsed by cartel members.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

Well, at least one piece of classical literature (blanking on it at the moment but read it along with The Yellow Wallpaper, which might have been better if it did end in a suicide) does, it might be fine. Not sure. But this may not be the best place for it either.

 

[Madmcgee]

Why not leave the ending ambiguous?
You don't need to show the act itself, let it happen offscreen with just enough uncertainty that it could go either way.
Cut to black and let the reader decide.

That said, if it's more snuffy than thought-provoking, maybe it's something that wouldn't fit anyway. You can always write multiple endings and publish the one that is 'PG safe'

 

[Nezothe]

Tmk, media doesn't refer to the content of the book. It's referring to you adding any images or videos of the said actions. Otherwise self-harm/suicide topics would be under prohibited content.

So writing is not part of the media?

I think it depend, if the mc is killing himself because theres reason or cause, then i think it fine. Like if the story about depressed mc that try to fine a place in the world but still not find it in the end and choose the kill himself, i think thats a resolution. Does resolution need a good / happy ending? I think no. What it need is to be logical / there is a cause for it.

Is goes with someting like this, but primary focus is angst so how it got there is kinda exagerated.

Post it. We need more angst stories.

I want to (tho it's not good) but I'm uncertain if I could since I dont want to enable or like glorfiy it.

Not worth the trouble.

(even assuming it is allowed in the first place)

The Royal Road had the massive outrage about the novel starting with suicide, and considering it was in the first chapter, they must have approved it to be even visible. Yet it didn't stop them from being offended to ban it. By having the problematic content in the last chapter somewhat postpones the reaction, but does it matter if it gets banned afterwards?

I see, thanks but I dont post on rr anymore. Mostly done it now to wattpad, here and like tapas.

Well, at least one piece of classical literature (blanking on it at the moment but read it along with The Yellow Wallpaper, which might have been better if it did end in a suicide) does, it might be fine. Not sure. But this may not be the best place for it either.

My inspiration on this are actually like this:

https://www.novelupdates.com/series/traumatized-boy-want-to-live-quietly/

But more into this

The Duchess Has a Deathwish

“I was reborn… and I want to die again.”Despite choosing to die in her previous life, our protagonist is reborn as Selena, the short-lived villainess from a novel. The character Selena was written to be so villainous she spends her final moments isolated in a dungeon. But our reincarnated...

www.mangaupdates.com

Why not leave the ending ambiguous?
You don't need to show the act itself, let it happen offscreen with just enough uncertainty that it could go either way.
Cut to black and let the reader decide.

That said, if it's more snuffy than thought-provoking, maybe it's something that wouldn't fit anyway. You can always write multiple endings and publish the one that is 'PG safe'

I'm not certain actually if he'll like die in the end. But I'm just not good enough to make it ambigous.

Thank you all for your reply. I should have a poll, I also forgot.

 

[beast_regards]

I see, thanks but I dont post on rr anymore. Mostly done it now to wattpad, here and like tapas.

Yes, it's the different site, but currently, there is a push to make this site a little more like them ...

Wattpad is also a bit sensitive. They already did change rules and tried to purge content, so it is a matter of time when they change once again.

And Tapas? Tapas is an actual publisher. I don't know what their rules are, but I am certain they would take them more seriously than the hobbyist sites.

 

[Nezothe]

Yes, it's the different site, but currently, there is a push to make this site a little more like them ...

Wattpad is also a bit sensitive. They already did change rules and tried to purge content, so it is a matter of time when they change once again.

And Tapas? Tapas is an actual publisher. I don't know what their rules are, but I am certain they would take them more seriously than the hobbyist sites.

Thanks. I think I know what I know what to do now.

 

[Deleted member 84247]

You can do it. I did a novel where characters commit suicide every chapter almost. Not only was it approved, but it was never banned.

 

[AYM]

So writing is not part of the media?

The literal definition it does, but I don't think "media" in the content guidelines refers to writing.

• Any media containing private parts, breast and buttocks.
• Any media displaying sexual intercourse or sexual acts.

Scribble Hub has lots of smut stories, but none of them are taken down from these Prohibited Media guidelines.

 

[SurfAngel_1031]

My goodness, I also forgot the guidelines... Saw it now Any media displaying self-harm or suicide.

Thanks!

That's in reference to video and images. Look at the surrounding things also prohibited. Since you are writing, it's the prohibited content section that's going to apply. I don't see anything about suicide.
Having said that; if it were me, I'd take my time and address why I wanted to make such a controversial story.

 

[Nezothe]

That's in reference to video and images. Look at the surrounding things also prohibited. Since you are writing, it's the prohibited content section that's going to apply. I don't see anything about suicide.
Having said that; if it were me, I'd take my time and address why I wanted to make such a controversial story.

Well noted, thank you.

 

[Ai-chan]

You can post it. The implied significance is that it doesn't 'glorify' suicide. What this means is it doesn't encourage suicide, encourage bullying that lead to suicide or portray suicide as necessary or a 'better option'.

 

[sumichan]

This one thread felt like it was written by Osamu Dazai for a moment ?‍ (I think the reasons of the suicide in your novel idea will always be at the front anyway. So that should not be a problem for good readers!)