What and why the bloody hell is there so many god damn thing about the human body that can be trained?!?!?!

[NotaNuffian]

Bollocks to this bullshit.

This is twisting my testicles.

God I have the urge to hate the body cultivation thing.

Bloody piece of bloody balls.

*Breathe out*

So copying World's Best Martial Artist and some other works that I long forgotten, apparently the first and most important thing to train for is actually qi and blood/ stamina/ vitality.

Then they branch off to bones, organs etc etc and then let the body refurbish from inner to outer.

Then there are works that start with outer to inner cultivation aka Skin, Muscle, Tendon, Bone, Blood (bone marrow) and Organ.

THEN there are works that focus in training how to train one's body to produce 劲 (inner force aka qi) and it comes in stages; basic aka bitch brute strength, hidden aka leave surface unharmed while innards are mush and Conqueror Haki/ Jojo Stand. Obvoliously there are still so many like Core Force aka mpreg but with Qi... yeah it is Golden Pill aka mpreg but with cultivation.

The good news is that I have tons of materials to plagiarize from, the bad news is that how in ToucanStein does these CN writers not bite their own hands off?!?!

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Huh?

 

[Alski]

Hes been reading CN brain rot again.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Hes been reading CN brain rot again.

That's about the only thing he reads.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Hes been reading CN brain rot again.

Yeah.

Where else to find muscle and murder?

That's about the only thing he reads.

 

[Alski]

Where else to find muscle and murder?

You could visit certain third world countries.

 

[NotaNuffian]

You could visit certain third world countries.

Where underground dogfights exist?

Or I could just watch MMA octogon cage match at comfort of my home.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

I always thought the lungs were the first thing trained, via breathing exercises; it was the first thing Chiun taught Remo, and was also a focus in two other martial arts stories I read back in the 90s at lest. Then, once breathing is right, train the stomach and related systems, following or concurrent with it, the heart and blood, then move on to the muscles, and finally the skeleton. Training the brain is concurrent with all the rest.
And you need to start with an infant...

 

[NotaNuffian]

I always thought the lungs were the first thing trained, via breathing exercises; it was the first thing Chiun taught Remo, and was also a focus in two other martial arts stories I read back in the 90s at lest. Then, once breathing is right, train the stomach and related systems, following or concurrent with it, the heart and blood, then move on to the muscles, and finally the skeleton. Training the brain is concurrent with all the rest.
And you need to start with an infant...

I think the whole skin to bone thing was created because of chinese magic, where one can train their skin until it becomes blade proof, meaning that the action can happen fast.

That been said, I had seen works that did not start with maxing defense and instead follow how to punch and kick and it is kind of common street brawl. It is action filled yes, but also lacks the ultraviolence fun.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

I think the whole skin to bone thing was created because of chinese magic, where one can train their skin until it becomes blade proof, meaning that the action can happen fast.

That's from a weird mashup of Buddhist and Daoist magic, the Diamond Sutra IIRC. Make the skin hard like a diamond.

That been said, I had seen works that did not start with maxing defense and instead follow how to punch and kick and it is kind of common street brawl. It is action filled yes, but also lacks the ultraviolence fun.

The few I've seen start with a street brawler who needs to learn discipline and begin with breathing. Don't recall the titles; all that stuck with me was that one common trait!
Well, and Remo Williams was a trained cop with all that entails before he was executed in an electric chair that didn't quite work for a crime he didn't commit, and recruited by C.U.R.E. to be the enforcement arm of an organization that does not exist, designed to defend the Constitution by acting outside of the Constitution, and trained by the only living master of Sinanju, the Sun Source of all Martial Arts...

 

[Tempokai]

I think the whole skin to bone thing was created because of chinese magic, where one can train their skin until it becomes blade proof, meaning that the action can happen fast.

That been said, I had seen works that did not start with maxing defense and instead follow how to punch and kick and it is kind of common street brawl. It is action filled yes, but also lacks the ultraviolence fun.

That's the difference in thinking. Xianxia starts with the notion that you need to live long, and defensive arts is basically given to survive. In wuxia it's one large wound and you're dead, so the offensive arts are the must to survive. Think of it as incentives, there are short and long ones.

Also, regarding the original question, think of it as incentive again. Make that you can either do the overall, dividing into the parts, it will be quicker but less effective the less you focus. 108 (as far I remember) is the formation number, use that for maximum body refinement/slowest time to achieve it and make it exponential.

For later stages, the body isn't as useful, so the qi cultivation naturally will overtake it. Give some qi absorption or whatever bonus for that achievement, and voila.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

I will once again go full retard, sorry. You can train your bones IRL. Calcification, that's what a lot of martial artists do.

 

[NotaNuffian]

I will once again go full retard, sorry. You can train your bones IRL. Calcification, that's what a lot of martial artists do.

Muay Thai babee.

God, those thicc shin bones.

That's the difference in thinking. Xianxia starts with the notion that you need to live long, and defensive arts is basically given to survive. In wuxia it's one large wound and you're dead, so the offensive arts are the must to survive. Think of it as incentives, there are short and long ones.

Also, regarding the original question, think of it as incentive again. Make that you can either do the overall, dividing into the parts, it will be quicker but less effective the less you focus. 108 (as far I remember) is the formation number, use that for maximum body refinement/slowest time to achieve it and make it exponential.

For later stages, the body isn't as useful, so the qi cultivation naturally will overtake it. Give some qi absorption or whatever bonus for that achievement, and voila.

Well, the true beginner martial art is always the Jojo family teaching.

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Fun.

Someone actually talked about the importance of training the heart and lungs because qi and blood aka vitality is governed by them both.

From a CN.

 

[unlaumy]

Body training arc, especially in a non-wuxia genre, is a common story introduction trope. It's a cheap way to add one more stage to tens of cultivation stages you will introduce later on. You also get to give the readers a dive into your world without having them knowing the details for your magic system.

Like let's be honest, it's just a filler. Authors absolutely use this because they want to milk the menial disciple or slave disciple or clan drama stage. It adds nothing to the story other than feeding readers minor antagonists (also insignificant menial disciples) who will never ever appear again in the next arc.

But hey, that's CN flow stories for you. You're literally becoming Sisyphus the very moment you're addicted to them.

It's also similar for western/japanese stories in the european fantasy genre with the way they use beginner village, prisoner premise (elder scrolls games are goated though), tavern premise, toddler phase (when reincarnated), etc for the nth times, now we really have to deal with many uncreative introductory parts just to see whether the authors promise of "it gets better later" is true or not.

So beware kids, don't do drugs cliches and tropes. Your brain will get cooked sooner or later.

 

[RoyalTime]

I'm lazy to add any of this

 

[fcures]

I'm lazy to add any of this

2012 memes are rare these days

 

[Placeholder]

> This is twisting my testicles.

A CBT professional would say you need to train those.

 

[2wordsperminute]

Where else to find muscle and murder?

Muay Thai from what I've heard.