What do you think of the new Avatar series, Seven Havens?

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Avatar: Seven Havens is set in a world shattered by a devastating cataclysm, with both the physical and Spirit Worlds torn asunder. The remnants of humanity endure in the titular Seven Havens, spread across the world. A young earthbender discovers she's the new Avatar after Korra—but in this dangerous era, that title marks her as humanity's destroyer, not its savior. On the run as she is pursued by both human and spirit forces, the new Avatar will be joined by her long-lost twin sibling, as they uncover their mysterious origins and links to the Avatar Cycle, and find a way to save their world before the Seven Havens collapse entirely.
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I was jokingly expecting something like space colonies or a cyberpunk theme, centuries to where Korra left off, but I guess a Mad Max post-apocalyptic setting isn't bad either, and I'm kinda curious on how it led to that.
Whether this is a hit or a miss, I plan to watch it either way since I'm a fan of earthbending, not that I'm an avid fan to begin with.
So, what do you think?
And also, do you think there would a 4th one after this? To complete the 4 elements theme or something.
 

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Avatar: Seven Havens is set in a world shattered by a devastating cataclysm, with both the physical and Spirit Worlds torn asunder. The remnants of humanity endure in the titular Seven Havens, spread across the world. A young earthbender discovers she's the new Avatar after Korra—but in this dangerous era, that title marks her as humanity's destroyer, not its savior. On the run as she is pursued by both human and spirit forces, the new Avatar will be joined by her long-lost twin sibling, as they uncover their mysterious origins and links to the Avatar Cycle, and find a way to save their world before the Seven Havens collapse entirely.
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I was jokingly expecting something like space colonies or a cyberpunk theme, centuries to where Korra left off, but I guess a Mad Max post-apocalyptic setting isn't bad either, and I'm kinda curious on how it led to that.
Whether this is a hit or a miss, I plan to watch it either way since I'm a fan of earthbending, not that I'm an avid fan to begin with.
So, what do you think?
And also, do you think there would a 4th one after this? To complete the 4 elements theme or something.
probably would suck
 

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There is a new one? :blob_hmm_two:

I think the only issue I really saw with Korra was.

1. The love triangle/square instead of proper character arcs.

2. Felt a bit rushed if I remember right.

That aside, the concept was good. Though, I believe it wasn’t handled properly. Korra being the calamity is actually a very solid idea.

The pieces were all there, it just needed better execution from more capable writers.

I mean, I remember Korra was insufferable. There is a difference between being rebellious and being just plain incompetent.

There is a difference between failing and accepting your mistakes, than being headstrong even when you’re wrong.

Huh…the more I type, the more I remember what is wrong with it.
 
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Hold it. The avatar cycle was destroyed entirely. How could there be another avatar? HOLD HOLDING IT... shouldn’t it be a fire bender next?

Never mind.

It's going to suck. It's gonna be more girl bossing too close to the sun. Men are evil. Mankind is the real monsters. The environment is good. Free Palestine. Abortions are a right. Agree with us or you are racists.

I don't have the strength to hate it. It should be ignored and left to wither and die
 

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sounds interesting and the premise is very original, but retards will say its bad because they dislike female main characters
Hold it. The avatar cycle was destroyed entirely. How could there be another avatar? HOLD HOLDING IT... shouldn’t it be a fire bender next?

Never mind.

It's going to suck. It's gonna be more girl bossing too close to the sun. Men are evil. Mankind is the real monsters. The environment is good. Free Palestine. Abortions are a right. Agree with us or you are racists.

I don't have the strength to hate it. It should be ignored and left to wither and die
the avatar cycle simply continues after korra (she's the only ancestor now)
 

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Hold it. The avatar cycle was destroyed entirely. How could there be another avatar? HOLD HOLDING IT... shouldn’t it be a fire bender next?

Never mind.

It's going to suck. It's gonna be more girl bossing too close to the sun. Men are evil. Mankind is the real monsters. The environment is good. Free Palestine. Abortions are a right. Agree with us or you are racists.

I don't have the strength to hate it. It should be ignored and left to wither and die
No offence to the in real life situation, but you got here totally wrong!
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This is the end of ONE OF THE ERAS OF 10,000-year cycle.
After Korra, the SECOND cycle began just like how Wan created the FIRST CYCLE.
It has been heavily foreshadowed from the early ATLA episodes.
If you all say anything bad about Korra being he the worst avatar, I will debate with more proof than ever.
The difference between Korra's and Aang's enemies is in the following Categories:-

K — Korra's enemies
A — Aang's enemies

Information about the Avatar's Weakness: K>A
More Variant & Complex Bending styles: K>A
Philosophical Depth & Motivations : K > A
Personal Connection to the Avatar : A > K
Tactical & Strategic Intelligence : K > A
Power Level & Threat to the World: A > K
Spiritual Abilities & Influence : A < K
Political & Societal Influence : K > A
Longevity & Legacy : A > K
 

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No offence to the in real life situation, but you got here totally wrong!
I will bet money it will be girlbossing.

I promise you, they could not write a show seeped in modern day politics if you put a gun to the writers head and said, "Write escapist fiction, or DIE."

"BUT if we don't reflect the modern world..."

*BLAM*
 

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There is a new one? :blob_hmm_two:

I think the only issue I really saw with Korra was.

1. The love triangle/square instead of proper character arcs.

2. Felt a bit rushed if I remember right.

That aside, the concept was good. Though, I believe it wasn’t handled properly. Korra being the calamity is actually a very solid idea.

The pieces were all there, it just needed better execution from more capable writers.

I mean, I remember Korra was insufferable. There is a difference between being rebellious and being just plain incompetent.

There is a difference between failing and accepting your mistakes, than being headstrong even when you’re wrong.

Huh…the more I type, the more I remember what is wrong with it.
I agree with your points but the reason Korra is like that is because of her childhood.

Out of all the avatar we have witnessed, Korra learned 3/4 of the elements at the age of 4! I REPEAT 4!

So what do you do when you see a potential unripe fruit?

You save guard it until it matures.

But due to this, Korra barely had any normal interaction with the kids around her age.

24/7 guarded, restricted, forbidden...

How do you think she and Nala became friends?

IT'S WHEN SHE ESCAPED!

You learn from mimicking and seeing other's behaviour and that's how you learn to grow your opinions and personalities.

But Korra grew up isolated!
She grew up with praises, perfection and... pride.

It's no wonder she ended up like that.

No contact from the outside world.


I don't defend the writer's skill at the love triangle, but it kinda makes sense as to why Korra made such a weird mess with the guys.

She didn't have any close friends around her age until she turned 18.
I will bet money it will be girlbossing.

I promise you, they could not write a show seeped in modern day politics if you put a gun to the writers head and said, "Write escapist fiction, or DIE."

"BUT if we don't reflect the modern world..."

*BLAM*
This pissed me off so much... I mean no offence, respectfully.

Here's my opinion and my stances -

Escapist fiction and socially conscious storytelling are compatible.

Many of the greatest works of fiction, from 1984 to TLOTR, reflect real-world struggles while still providing compelling narratives.

TLOK wasn’t just “modern politics in a fantasy setting”—it explored complex themes of power, ideology, and identity, which co-relates with real-world issues.

If a story is well-written, audiences won’t feel like they’re being lectured.

The issue isn’t politics in fiction, but badly handled politics in fiction—when messages feel forced instead of being woven
smoothly into the world and characters.

ATLA tackled war, imperialism, and genocide while still being an adventure story.



If TLOK felt heavy-handed at times it wasn’t because it engaged with modern issues but because execution matters more than intent.


In short, Escapism and real-world issues can go together in a good story. The problem isn’t politics in fiction, but when it’s forced. ATLA handled serious topics well, while TLOK sometimes felt too on-the-nose.

Good writing make themes feel natural, bad writing don’t.
 
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I agree with your points but the reason Korra is like that is because of her childhood.
No. It's because the writers wanted to girlboss.

Look, I love your fanfiction and how much effort you put in to write a better show, but the writers NEVER thought of anything you just typed. If they had, it would have been a better show.

They kinda tried the fish out of water bs in the first episode, then dropped it like a bad habit.

This new show will be a mouth piece for the writer's politics. Period. Do not delude yourself otherwise. There will not be one drop of testosterone that exists outside of the villains and badguys.

It will have examples of "good men" who are "evolved". You know... they act like women. You know? The superior gender.

The badguy will actually make more sense than the MC because they have no morality. They don't know good from evil. How can you write a story about a paragon if you don't believe in goodness?

AND in the end, this will be nothing more than Korra telling the audience how she was right all along and you only hated korra because you were sexist.
 

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Out of all the avatar we have witnessed, Korra learned 3/4 of the elements at the age of 4! I REPEAT 4!
Doesn't this prove the point of her being a girlboss? Sure, she had some emotional trauma, and so on... Aang had it as well... I don't know, maybe Korra's conflict was done better. I can't judge it because I got bored after a single episode.
 

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No. It's because the writers wanted to girlboss.

Look, I love your fanfiction and how much effort you put in to write a better show, but the writers NEVER thought of anything you just typed. If they had, it would have been a better show.

They kinda tried the fish out of water bs in the first episode, then dropped it like a bad habit.

This new show will be a mouth piece for the writer's politics. Period. Do not delude yourself otherwise. There will not be one drop of testosterone that exists outside of the villains and badguys.

It will have examples of "good men" who are "evolved". You know... they act like women. You know? The superior gender.

The badguy will actually make more sense than the MC because they have no morality. They don't know good from evil. How can you write a story about a paragon if you don't believe in goodness?

AND in the end, this will be nothing more than Korra telling the audience how she was right all along and you only hated korra because you were sexist.

I get the frustration with modern storytelling, especially when it feels like characters are written to prove a point rather than to be compelling.

But reducing Korra to just “girl bossing” ignores the actual complexity of her character arc.

She wasn’t just a perfect woman proving everyone wrong—she was deeply flawed, impulsive, and had to grow through real struggles.


If anything, she was the opposite of a "perfect feminist icon" because she spent most of the series failing before finding her path.

As for male characters, TLOK didn’t erase masculinity.

Tenzin, Bolin, and even characters like Zaheer were distinct personalities with different strengths and flaws.

Just because they weren’t written as over-the-top macho warriors doesn’t mean they were “acting like women” or being diminished.

Evolution doesn’t mean becoming weaker.

It means adapting, growing, and understanding others.

If that’s framed as a flaw, then ATLA would be guilty of the same thing, since Aang (the ultimate "evolved" male hero) was a pacifist who won through wisdom, not brute force.

The "villains make more sense" argument is interesting because, yes, they often had understandable motives.

But that’s good writing!

Amon had a legitimate point about power imbalance, Zaheer had a strong ideology about freedom, and Kuvira wanted stability in a chaotic world.

That doesn’t mean they were correct—it means they were well-developed.

A strong protagonist isn't about being morally superior.

It’s about struggling with those dilemmas and choosing the right path despite them.

Finally, if the project leans too far into politics at the cost of good storytelling, then sure, criticism is fair.

But assuming it must be bad before it even comes out just because it might have a female lead or certain themes?

That’s closing the book before reading the first page. Let the story speak for itself—if it fails, critique it.

But if it succeeds, don’t dismiss it just because it challenges expectations.
Doesn't this prove the point of her being a girlboss? Sure, she had some emotional trauma, and so on... Aang had it as well... I don't know, maybe Korra's conflict was done better. I can't judge it because I got bored after a single episode.
The fact that Korra mastered three elements by age 4 doesn’t inherently make her a “girl boss” in the way critics use the term.

It just means she had a different starting point than Aang.

Aang was a reluctant hero who had to grow into his role, whereas Korra was powerful from the start.

But SHE struggled with the spiritual and emotional side of being the Avatar, unlike Aang due to the fact that he was an Air Nomad.

Her arc wasn’t about gaining power—it was about learning how to use it wisely, overcoming arrogance, and dealing with loss and identity crises.

No offence, but if you got bored after one episode, it makes sense that you didn’t connect with her journey.


The show takes time to flush out her struggles, and if the first episode didn’t hook you, that’s a valid personal take.


But judging her entire character based only on her early mastery of bending misses the point—her real challenges weren’t physical, but personal and ideological.
 
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The fact that Korra mastered three elements by age 4 doesn’t inherently make her a “girl boss” in the way critics use the term.

It just means she had a different starting point than Aang.

Aang was a reluctant hero who had to grow into his role, whereas Korra was powerful from the start.

But SHE struggled with the spiritual and emotional side of being the Avatar, unlike Aang due to the fact that he was an Air Nomad.

Her arc wasn’t about gaining power—it was about learning how to use it wisely, overcoming arrogance, and dealing with loss and identity crises.

No offence, but if you got bored after one episode, it makes sense that you didn’t connect with her journey.


The show takes time to flush out her struggles, and if the first episode didn’t hook you, that’s a valid personal take.


But judging her entire character based only on her early mastery of bending misses the point—her real challenges weren’t physical, but personal and ideological.
Nah, I didn't judge her. Asked a question, you answered, thank you for that. As for spiritual and emotional side, I was ok with it in other works. ?‍♂️ Not saying she is bad based on only that btw. I didn't watch so can't judge.

Lastly, a lot of judging before the series comes out goes from the fact those authors didn't do a lot of good TV sereis as far as I can tell. I don't know if he is still good, I will take Genndy Tartakovsky as an example anyway, since he is the only animation guy I know. If they suddenly give him all the rights and freedom to do a third season, and I mean real freedom, I doubt majority would say it's going to be bad, even if MC were to be a female lesbian avatar.

Granted Genndy Tartakovsky is still good and he gets actual freedom. Obviously there will be a couple of actual misogynysts hating on it, but I think majority will be at the very least interested in what he is going to do with it. So yeah. It's all about who is in charge and how much freedom are they going to get.

Same thing that happens with videogames. You can judge a game before it comes out based on the publisher and the names in that studio.
 
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